What can we do about Warner Bros? - Page 6

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I predicted the same old "DTS is better" attitudes would still be there with some people in the age of lossless audio, and I was right.

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It must be better! It uses more disc space!

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I'd like a mandatory from Warners ALL titles regardless should be on BD-50's. Just because the film was also on HD-30's doesn't mean we'll take BD-25 ports. I'd like WB to take the extra time and effort to recode the image and give ALL original theatrical soundtracks full lossless audio, even the mono ones. Hell, even isolated scores should be lossless. Is the isolated score for L.A. Confidential lossless?
MANDATORY. NO MORE DIGITAL COPY! What's the point of this?! I was going to make another thread too. A Three-Disc Special Edition shouldn't include the digital copy as being one of those discs.

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To avoid any uncalled for debate, let's just assume that all 'lossless' is the same, irrespective of codec used. Thus, if the sound quality is the same then why not use 'DTS-HD Master Audio', which has the advantage of having a superior 1.5mbps DTS core for backwards compatibility and does not require a redundant legacy DD track just for compatibility purposes.

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The core of a DTS-HD MA/HR track provides some backward-compatibility but, given the installed base of Dolby Digital decoders, a separate Dolby Digital track provides more. The combination of a TrueHD track for maximum resolution and a Dolby Digital track for maximum backward-compatibility seems eminently practical to me.

Adam

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I assume that you really mean all studios, not just Warner

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OK - that's what I thought was going on. Cool. Well, I mean, not cool really that it's a subject of complaint, but cool to know I didn't miss something.

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I still believe Warner Bros is the best Home Video Company. Not every film is going to look great in High -Def. I was surprised how good "Bonnie and Clyde" looked since this was always a grainy and low budget film.

I love when the film starts without having to go to the menus, so I don't find that to be a fault but a plus!

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I don't know about that title, but I noticed that Disney has authored the newly released HSM3 BD to ask if you want to continue playback from where you stopped it as soon as it loads up -- didn't even make us go thru all the usual Disney trailers, IIRC.

_Man_

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You caught me!

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The big issue I have is concerning the "ultimate editions" of their classics. While I appreciate the effort, making Casablanca only a $40 gift set is ridiculous. Give us an option to go for a standard release like the HD-DVD and the UE. Now that I have BluRay, I'm irritated that I can go out and buy Casablanca at the same price as 2001 or Robin Hood '38.

If this is how Gone with the Wind and The Wizard of Oz are going to be handled, then I'm just going to Netflix instead. Is Citizen Kane only going to be available in a $40 gift set with a miniature Rosebud sled, snow globe, and reproduction of Kane's "standards" list and a jigsaw puzzle?

PLEASE give us the option. Seriously, I'm pre-ordering Casablanca the minute it's announced as a reasonable $20 normal release like the rest of their classics.


To chime in with the audio issues, I don't see what's wrong with including PCM tracks for mono films. Criterion is doing it, so why not?

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I think Warner has done fairly well in their Blu efforts. Sure, it is annoying to have to select the HD track every time, but it's a trade off I'll take over instant menus, trailers, ads, etc.

Too bad we can't program our players to just output the lossless track no matter what, like in the days of LaserDisc. I loved being able to just switch my processor to listen to AC3 or PCM if I wanted. No need to change the audio on the disc itself.

I'm telling you, I'd pay an extra $5-$10 from ANY studio if they guaranteed no menus, no ads, and automatic selection of lossless audio. Sure, include all the extras you want but I hate that when I pay $30 for a disc and then have to get forced to watch commercials. This isn't a DVD, it's a Blu Ray. The studios should reward their customers for paying that extra few bucks for perfection.

Grandpa LaserDisc is spinning in his grave right about now.

AJG

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I agree. I'd have owned Casablanca the day it was released if it was a normal version.

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I'd bet that Warners will be looking closely at the sales of Casablanca whenever they release a non-deluxe version.

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Of course, it would be even nicer if Warner would consistently provide a lossless track to begin with.

That's my main gripe with WB: they don't seem to understand that lossless audio benefits all audio signals, not just "state of the art" modern 5.1 mixes.



Ron,

that's GREAT to hear. Of course, WB has said things like this before... and then went ahead and authored discs (Speed Racer as an example) that didn't have lossless. And when Warner says "all" do they *really* mean "all" or do they just mean "all titles that we think are best showcased with TrueHD". I'd like to see titles like A Christmas Story and Cool Hand Luke get TrueHD just like the big-boys with 5.1 state-of-the-art mixes.

But your comments sound like the source was pretty adamant. Fingers crossed that the days of lossy-only audio on WB HD titles is coming to an and... and having the lossless track default during disc play would be a welcome bonus.

dave

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Same here. I just want the film, not the extra stuff, so I'm waiting for a "normal" release.

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Looking to another region might be an option. Most Warner titles are region free, and Casablanca has been released in a normal blu case in Europe, and probably in other areas as well.

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Hmmm... Good point. I've been waiting for a standard BD release of this one also.

Also, in some other cases like certain franchise series boxsets, eg. Austin Powers, you might be able to find a dealer who'd break up the set and sell the BDs individually. I noticed that inetvideo is selling the Austin Powers set broken up like that -- and I'm tempted to go that route just for the first movie.

_Man_

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Speed Racer was well into production before that commitment was made. Titles are often prepped over a year in advance.