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post #571 of 610
Thanks Jack you once again show what a decent guy you are!!! Fans can expect nothing like that from me ever again. Hey I am sick of waiting too!!!!

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post #572 of 610
This excerpt from a tvshowsondvd FAQ suggests that sales WERE actually good enough to pursue more episodes.

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Shout! Factory released the classic '60s soap opera to DVD in 2009, with two releases ("Part 1" and "Part 2"), each with 5 discs. Since soap operas are daily programs, it's been estimated that Shout! would have had to get to a "Part 4" set before getting the full "first season" of the show on DVD. But will they ever get that far? The first two home video releases sold well enough that Shout! was interested in continuing, but - as the studio's DVD producer, Brian Ward, had put it - at that point they had "released every episode (they) were contractually permitted to release". They went back to the folks who own the show, Fox Home Entertainment, looking to license more episodes and continue the show on DVD. However, about a month ago Ward had bad news to post on the studio's message board about those negotiations: apparently Fox wanted more money than before. Ward said, "Sorry, guys. Unfortunately, the first two volumes didn't sell well enough for us to justify paying MORE for licensing additional episodes and they don't seem to be interested in giving us additional episodes for the same price or less. We may be at a bit of a stand off. For now, anyway. My fingers are always crossed." Thanks for clearing that up, Brian. Hopefully something will change...but for now, that's the hold-up.
post #573 of 610
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Originally Posted by Charles Ellis View Post

That is true- supposedly the Shulman estate is asking for mucho dinero.  But on the other hand, Fox is way behind the other studios in releasing vintage shows! 

 

Where's-

 

Nanny and the Professor

Julia

Bracken's World

Lancer

Adventures in Paradise

Bus Stop

The Green Hornet

How to Marry a Millionaire ?

 

I still haven't given up hope that these shows will be released (also the still-in-litigation Batman), and yes, someday we'll get more of PP, perhaps a complete series set with remastered prints!

 

 



There's rights issues with THE GREEN HORNET
and music issues with ADVENTURES IN PARADISE

I'd add BROKEN ARROW, GHOST & MRS. MUIR and the Fox Anthologies to this list,too
post #574 of 610
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There's rights issues with THE GREEN HORNET
and music issues with ADVENTURES IN PARADISE

I'd add BROKEN ARROW, GHOST & MRS. MUIR and the Fox Anthologies to this list,too



Aren't all the TV shows mentined above controlled by FHE?


And what music issues hold up "Adventures in Paradise"?
post #575 of 610
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Aren't all the TV shows mentined above controlled by FHE?


And what music issues hold up "Adventures in Paradise"?

Yes they are all FOX shows, I was just mentioning a couple notable ones not mentioned smile.gif

Seems there are issues involving the incidental music used in ADVENTURES IN PARADISE
post #576 of 610
I sure hope the MOD does happen. We have all stated we would take the show from Shout which ever way they wish to give it to us!! We Peyton Place Fan's need to thank Mr Cliff Mac for his answer on the show we all wish would begin again on DVD.
Edited by Mark Collins - 8/17/11 at 6:38pm
post #577 of 610
I hope Mr Mac and Fox could come to some sort of deal but from what he states here Fox will not come down even on the price of the episode's. Here is the link of our UK friends that follow the show. http://www.zetaminor.com/roobarb/showthread.php?29119-Peyton-Place-the-TV-series-coming-in-May-R1
post #578 of 610
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I hope Mr Mac and Fox could come to some sort of deal but from what he states here Fox will not come down even on the price of the episode's. Here is the link of our UK friends that follow the show. http://www.zetaminor.com/roobarb/showthread.php?29119-Peyton-Place-the-TV-series-coming-in-May-R1

Why SHOULD fox come down on what they are asking? They KNOW the value of their shows and are looking to get what they feel is fair. It is no different then when they licence shows for Broadcast - and i'm sure MeTV is paying market Value for the Fox/MTM shows they air.

If an independent label can't make it work - may it be SHOUT! or VCI, then it is up to another one to make it work. These independents cry poor and want things dirt cheep.
post #579 of 610
Fox likes to play hardball with just about anyone they deal with, even when the show is a strong seller such as Burke's Law. And yes, Fox should come down on what they are asking.
Edited by vnisanian2001 - 8/18/11 at 8:02am
post #580 of 610
Peyton Place Part One is on sale for $12.99 at INetVideo.com. (It's curently $16.98 on Amazon). I've dealt with INet before and they're good.
post #581 of 610
Peyton Place on sale. Hey thankyou Maureen for the heads up!! Here are two reviews one our Peyton Fans had posted here.

Peyton Place: Part One - DVD Talk review



Peyton Place: Part Two - DVD Talk review
post #582 of 610
I do not want to come across harsh like I did last week with Jack. I also want to say these are my opinions not facts which I am about to say.

Hi Denny you and anyone that reads this forum know's that i have a passion for Peyton Place. Last weel I asked the quesiton where are all the post's? The PP thread had many at the start. I stated that I alone was tired of pushing this show.

I never dreamed we would here from Mr Mac on Peyton Place and all the other great Fox TV programs. I stated I have always defended Fox Studios but after what Mr Mac said I had a different view of things.

Hey Fox can keep Peyton Place in the vault forever as you Denny pointed out a very long time ago.

Peyton Place still has potential to sell which is win win for both companies. Fox however refused to deal with Shout on more episode's. Mr Mac did not tell us the deal Shout had offered Fox. Shout might have wanted the rights to the whole Series.

The details of that deal we shall never know. Shout may have offered to buy enough to finish the first season or into the next season. We cannot sit here and judge Shout and Fox unless we know the details.

I just think if you have a buyer knocking on your door you just do not say go away. You would say come back let's talk some more. I would tell Fox if I were Shout go take a flying leap. Just a joke on my part. I even had someone point out last week my jokes were offensive and the person was right!!

I would say hey we cannot at this time reach a price which is reasonable then we should both wait for awhile.

Let us keep the door open because we know there is a market for this show called Peyton Place.

I hope that was how Fox and Shout ended their talks on the rights for more Peyton Place.

I thought Voyage was a lost cause. The Voyage Fans had given up on the last 13 episodes. Mr James Finn posted here and said that Voyage was on the way. People would not believe this VP from Fox Studios! The anger was that great against Fox!! Someone even asked if James Finn would come not to this thread but another and explain the Fox postion. Voyage and these distribution rights are to different issues.

We have no idea who set's the price for these rights at Fox. We have no idea who tells Shout what to pay. The fact could be it rest's with some bean counter who care's less about these show's. He or She at either company may be looking at bottom line price. The person can go to who ever they report to and say hey look what I saved the company. Do these things happen in every day business???

I say let us all and me most of all take a deep breath and say hey this is out of my hands.

Long Live Peyton Place!!!
Edited by Mark Collins - 8/18/11 at 5:32pm
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I just think if you have a buyer knocking on your door you just do not say go away. You would say come back let's talk some more. I would tell Fox if I were Shout go take a flying leap.

I would say hey we cannot at this time reach a price which is reasonable then we should both wait for awhile.

Let us keep the door open because we know there is a market for this show called Peyton Place.

I hope that was how Fox and Shout ended their talks on the rights for more Peyton Place.

I thought Voyage was a lost cause. The Voyage Fans had given up on the last 13 episodes. Mr James Finn posted here and said that Voyage was on the way. People would not believe this VP from Fox Studios! The anger was that great against Fox!! Someone even asked if James Finn would come not to this thread but another and explain the Fox postion. Voyage and these distribution rights are to different issues.

We have no idea who set's the price for these rights at Fox. We have no idea who tells Shout what to pay. The fact could be it rest's with some bean counter who care's less about these show's. He or She at either company may be looking at bottom line price. The person can go to who ever they report to and say hey look what I saved the company. Do these things happen in every day business???

I say let us all and me most of all take a deep breath and say hey this is out of my hands.

Long Live Peyton Place!!!
 


Well, we all know that VCI and Fox could not agree on the seasons 2 & 3 of BURKE'S LAW.  I really enjoyed the first season on DVD along with HONEY WEST.  It is a shame that Fox is hard to deal with.  If Dark Shadows can get so many shows on DVD, there is no reason Peyton Place can't either.  Out of all the film companies, Fox is the strangest one of them all.
 

 

post #584 of 610
Fox is definitely the strangest home video company. I have never seen a home video company act this strangely before. Were they always like this, even during the Magnetic Video era?
post #585 of 610
Found another low price on Part One - Half.com has it for $10.99. However the prices for Part Two seem to be much higher. Half.com has that for $26.99. I bring these sales up so that if we can show demand for what's out there maybe, just maybe something can be done. Peyton Place, along with other older shows in the Fox catalog, does not make money sitting in the vaults. Waiting for their price may just ensure that they get nothing in the end, much like sellers who overprice a house for sale.
post #586 of 610
Thread Starter 
Well, I spoke to Jim Pierson at the Dark Shadows Festival, and he confirmed Fox's weird stranglehold on its shows. Apparently he has tried to get the DVD release of several Fox titles on behalf of MPI Home Video, but Fox has refused every time. He is very aware of the PP situation, and says that from what he knows, Fox won't release anything else regarding the show at present. So apparently the ball is in Fox's court and they are keeping a selfish hold on it! It looks like the only way to change things is within Fox itself, like a change of people within its video division. But then, maybe we can bombard these fools with letters........
post #587 of 610
What about my earlier question: Did Fox Home Entertainment always behave this strangely even during the Magnetic Video era?
post #588 of 610
Hi Vahan the answer to your question may be in the Fox thread. I know Mr James Finn did post on the Fox thread when he did not have to. I think those comments are near the start or middle of the thread. I remember he made a very good case for Fox at that time. Yes i know things were different in tv dvd market then.
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What about my earlier question: Did Fox Home Entertainment always behave this strangely even during the Magnetic Video era?


Ironically, Magnetic Video was an independent company who licensed films from Fox, MGM, Avco Embassy and others until Fox bought them out (which IIRC was around 1981). They practically invented the home video market.

 

The strange behavior seems only to apply to TV shows, which have only been sold on home video in large numbers in the last decade; they are cooperating with Twilight Time to release limited editions of movies like The Egyptian and John Huston's The Kremlin Letter. I do recall in the 1990s they licensed Lost in Space and M*A*S*H to Columbia House; those tapes went OOP by the late 1990s, while other studios continued to license stuff to them.

 

If you want really stupid behavior on their part bordering on criminal; in the 1970s the studio transferred its nitrate material to far less flammable acetate stock, and threw out the nitrate originals. But the worst of that is: for 3-strip Technicolor films, they didn't make separate dupes of the Red, Green and Blue B&W negatives, but combined them on Color Reversal Intermediate (CRI) stock that faded quickly.

post #590 of 610
HI Tracy,

I remember when we waited for Voyage BTW licensed at one time to Columbia House. The point being we were waiting for the last 13 eps of Voyage and many fans myself included were very frustrated. Harry and a few others stated the glass half full statement and everyone was shocked.

Well Voyage did come out. I am not here to here state anything new. I wish I could give out new info. I still enjoy watching the program and it looks great from the prints off the Romance Channel. I know small comfort for those who did not see it then.

The color episodes are beautiful. I am watching the fall of 1966. The show imported leaves from New England to make the show look like a New England town. You never would believe this was filmed at Fox.

The two books on the show I tell fans to buy. The one is a BIo by Ed Nelson and the other book is all about the TV series Peyton Place.

I guess what I am trying to say here is that fans should not give up. I know Shout receives many requests for the series. The problem is really a business one. How can I or anyone know what these two companies are trying to do. The fact Fox seems to prefer Shout over say MPI I do not know. Yes it would seem that since they like Shout why are they not letting them have the show?

I will not compare Peyton Place with other Fox and Shout Licensed Shows. Mr Cliff Mac who was kind enough to answer fan questions did not even do this. Mr Mac He even made a point to state this.

The one thing Peyton Place has going for it that the other shows do not is that ther are no Music Rights problems.

I love your passion Vahan and hang in there Buddy!!! People such as yourself made NBC renew Star Trek for a 3rd season back in the 60s.

I still reserve Thursday Nights for Peyton Place as I do Fridays for Time Tunnel. Friends Family all know do not call on Mark on Thursdays HA HA!!

Keep ringing those opening scene Church Bells fans!!!! The fun is hearing the Lost In Space Robot stateing as the bells ring in B/W and then in split second the words "IN Color" the Church turns into color is a great opening. ABC had a in color intro to all it's color shows. The Peyton Place intro however was very unique.

I am hoping with the Dallas return in 2012 Knots Landing Fans will get their show released and we Peyton Place Fans will see more Peyton Place.

I once stated an HBO remake might be cool. I thought it would be a good fit.
post #591 of 610
I wish karma would haunt Fox. They honestly can't keep up this stupid game of playing hardball with the smaller labels forever, can they?
post #592 of 610
Sad news - Patricia Breslin, who played Laura Brooks, passed away:
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/bostonglobe/obituary.aspx?n=patricia-modell&pid=154061519

She left acting and married Art Model, owner of the Baltimore Ravens.
post #593 of 610
Loved her as Mandy on People's Choice. One of my earliest TV crushes.
post #594 of 610
Too bad her husband was one of the two most dishonorable man to ever be the owner of a professional sports team.
post #595 of 610
Hi Maureen,

Thanks for the news item! I believe you can catch all of Pat's episodes on both of the Peyton Place Shout volumes.

I once again must thank Shout and Cliff MacMillan the Vice President of DVD Production and Acquisitions for Shout! Factory, for chapters 1 and 2.

I still hope we can see Fox come to their sense's and deal again with Shout Factory. The shows look great in color and do not need remastering.

The color episode's with the fall leaves and the beautiful sets just come to life much in the way Dark Shadows sets did when they went color. The show has leaves coming off the trees and blowing on to streets court house steps you name it.

The spooky barn sequence with Norman and Rita is just great! We even have a evil looking country farmer show up in the show. The story lines are just great. I know most fans will not agree but with MIa gone it gave the show new juice. The Peyton House and Martin Peyton became the focus.

I love that man!! He is the Barnabas Collins of Peyton Place. I do not mean Martin Peyton is a Vampire but all plots spin around him as they did Barnabas on DS.
post #596 of 610
There has to be a simple straight answer as to why Fox is playing hardball with Shout. The reason better not be because Fox plans on releasing themselves. That would be downright tragic if they did that.

And DeWilson, shame on you for defending Fox (aka Satan).
post #597 of 610
Get them to explain their hardball with VCI over "Burke's Law" while you're at it!
post #598 of 610
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There has to be a simple straight answer as to why Fox is playing hardball with Shout. The reason better not be because Fox plans on releasing themselves. That would be downright tragic if they did that.

And DeWilson, shame on you for defending Fox (aka Satan).

Shame? I just have a better understanding how business works. Fox isn't Satan - (Although some poeple might saw owner Ruper Murdock and News Corp is!) Their "hardball" position just shows they know the value of the property now that the waters have been tested with the opening releases (SHOUT! and VCI with "Burke's Law") and what a fair market licencing fee.

FOX has never shown even one inkling of interest in releasing any of the pre-1970 Library product that they have licensed out to start with (They arn't even exploiting MGM/US's TV Library either pressed or their MOD program!)

I'll go back to my previous posts - These independents cry poor and want things dirt cheep. I'm also wondering if SHOUT! was going to throw the later volumes into the SELECT program which would have lesser sales to start with.
post #599 of 610
None of the other major studios are playing hardball with the little guys. Only Fox is notorious for doing this. And I don't think it's just their pre-1970s' library. I think it also includes anything before The Simpsons. And have you forgotten? Bruke's Law was a STRONG seller for VCI. Sales have absolutely nothing to do with why Fox is doing this.
post #600 of 610
we would love to get the rest of the Peyton Place series released on DVD's....sending this out to the powers that be....you DO have a market here!!!
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