HAPPY LABOR DAY PEYTON PLACE FANS!!!  SCHOOL BACK IN SESSION SUMMER ENDING.  MARTIN PEYTON PURCHASES 3 BOOKS FROM CONNIE FOR RODNEY.   MACHIAVELLI'S  "THE PRINCE"  JOHN BUNYAN'S  "PILGRIMS PROGRESS"  PHILIP STANHOPE EARL OF  CHESTERFIELD    "CHESTERFIELDS LETTERS TO HIS SON" 

I of course went out and got the 3 books but have yet to read them.  I will try during my recovery.  Jack have you read them??

Thankyou Charles and Sue Ellen for your good wish's and everyone else of course.  I have been tested and tested yes even Back Surgery, my gallbadder has to come out the old fashion way with weeks of being down.  So I will still be out of the game for another month or more. The Big C came into play. Enough about my health care sorry fans!

We have new fans on board I see. Fantastic please comment more!!! 
 
PHIL 
DEWILSON
JEJ2252
FAIRYCAKE
TYMPS
MELLO YELLO
WAVECREST

Wavecrest yes Peyton Place had previews.  The Fox Studio Logo is on every episode. The episodes are uncut.   The dvds do not have extras.  I did not know of the David Lynch angle.

PHIL I liked the Time Tunnel actors as well.  I think they were both in episodes from Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea another favorite show of mine and waiting for the last 13 episodes.   


Dewilson yes write write write!!!

Fairycake keep those comments rolling.

Skeffington great insight about this show.

MelloYello you touch on the many aspects which made this show a hit.

Tymps excellent please comment more. 

Now let us hear more comments from the good people that were with us at the start of the thread.  We need you!!!!

KENKOC
ETHAN RILEY
JEFFERSON
STEPHEN BOWIE
THE OBSOLETE MAN
COREY3RD
WHISPER IN THE RAIN
VNISANIAN2001
RON LEE GREEN
DAVID LAMBERT
MARC
DAVID LEVINE
STUART FANNING
C WILLI
TINA HV
MATT PERIOLAT
CHAS SPEED
GARY16
DEEP DISH
GARYOS
LEROUX
CHRIS L
TOM W
BILLY FELDMAN
VINCE FAN 
MARTY M
BRIAN HASSEL 
NIKKIFQQUK 
CLAUDE NORTH DS FAN?

MORE NEW FANS
PAUL L SCOTT
JON MARTIN

Hope I did not leave anyone out.  We need you all!!

Charles Ellis the Father of our thread. We owe a great debt of thanks to.  Thanks my good buddie!!  You had absolute faith Peyton Place would be release to home video. Your dream did indeed come true. I am postive more episodes of Peyton Place are on the way.

Alan what a great friend!!  Your comments and support are most appreciated.

Jack you add that touch of elegance which is so important and refreshing in our thread. 

SueEllen what can I say.  The enlightment you gave us all on Return To Peyton was absolutely fantastic!!!  I hope we hear from you soon.

Labor Day is one of my favortie holidays.  Dark Shadows fans listen up.  I watch every single year the 4 Labor day episodes on Labor Day. Each year I choose a different one to play exactly at 3:00 PM CST.  I then watch the other 3 back to back. Friends and Family know not to bother me after 3:00 PM on Labor Day.  It is my own tradition and I look forward to it each year.

The Labor Day episode of Quentin and Trask ending in the basement cell of Collinwood is very special to me.  My Aunt and My Grandparents would always take a Labor Day ride when I was a kid.  They would always have to wait until after Dark Shadows aired so I could go with them.

My Aunt who had never watched one epiosde of DS said she was going to watch the Labor Day episode with me. Angelique began her spell on trask and it was pure delight to hear my Aunt talk about the show.  She has passed on now which making that episode even more important to me.

The best Labor Day episode to me is Barnabas and Tom Jennings.  The  Barnabas about to bite Vicky episode comes next.   The last is Vicky and Carolyn finding a body at the bottom of Widows Hill .

I cannot end this without giving a special nod to GuidinGLight which ends on September 18th.  I remember when that show was only 15 minutes long!!  I believe a tv movie aired with the cast intergrated into the story.  I think back in 70s.  

I think there may not have been a Peyton Place or Dark Shadows if that show had not broke the ground for soaps.

Enough already from me.  I will be out of the game again starting after Labor Day until I do not know when.  

Best wishs to you all!
Mark 




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Mark-
Hang in there buddy-  We are praying for you and a speedy recovery!  No I haven't read those books-  Perhaps sometime soon... Taking a Young adult Lit class for my Masters, so reading anything not required will be hard-  Have you read "The Alchemyst" by Michael Scott?  Machiavelli plays a major part in the second book called "The Magician"!

Can't believe we are losing Guiding Light after so many years.  CBS should be ashamed of themselves-  It is indeed the grandaddy of all soaps, hailing back to 1937 on radio.  And I believe there are some connections to Peyton Place-  Didn't the actress who played Mrs. Shuster go on to work as a producer or something on GL?  September 18th will be a sad day for soap fans!

Shout!- We are waiting, but I don't know how patiently for morre PP!  How about an update for us?

Jack

Oh Jack thankyou so much. Yes next week I got to the Universtiy of Wisconsin to meet with the Doctor. The surgery must take place as soon as possible .  I have never been sick so this is quite a shock. Never been in a hosptial overnight.  Enough about me.  I have to admit I am nervous about Peyton Place and Shout.

The silver lineing is we are picking up new fans just because of this thead which makes me very happy.  I also do not know about Face Book I just will have to think about it in the future my mind is else where. 

I remember some of GuidinGLight plots it aired right aftere Search For Tommorow just before lunch here.  That movie I know was made it the gal from American Giglo her name I cannot think of right now.  I think it was about Baby kidnapping.  Bert was in it. Anyone remember?

The TV movie with some GUIDING LIGHT characters was THE CRADLE WILL FALL, based on a novel by Mary Higgins Clark, which first aired in 1983.  The movie starred Lauren Hutton and James Farentino, the GL characters included were Bert Bauer, Ed Bauer, Ross Marler, Hope Bauer Spaulding, Lesley Ann Monroe, and Larry Wyatt.  Haven't seen the movie since it was first aired, but I remember that it took place largely at Cedars Hospital, and that the GL characters all had fairly minor things to do in the storyline.  In the 1990s GL had a few special episodes aired during prime time, but now it's sadly come to cancellation in just two weeks (and pre-empted today and Friday at that!).  I also remember seeing it with my grandmother when it was only 15 minutes long - my grandmother watched all the CBS soaps in those days, from LOVE OF LIFE right on through to THE EDGE OF NIGHT!

As to PEYTON PLACE, I'm nearly finished with the first set and have the second all ready to go -- looking forward to an announcement about the third -- please, please, Shout Factory!

Nothing more than a guess but they may just be holding off on another set until after the holidays so it doesn't get lost in the shuffle of summer movies coming to DVD.

Thanks Mark for the welcome and I send you my wishes for a very speedy recovery.

I'm almost done watching the entire series. Mia Farrow certainly left a void when she decided to leave the series. The tone of the show changed. All of a sudden the show was without it's heroine. Leigh Taylor Young was brought in as "Rachael Welles" a mysterious girl who is in possession of Allison's bracelet. Leigh Taylor was no match for Miss Farrow although I must say she is easy on the eyes. She definitely had a very vulnerable almost childlike quality to her and the desperation in her voice suited the character well but the story line dragged in spots.

With Mia gone attention was re-focused to Barbara Parkins' ambitious "Betty Anderson". I loved her storyline because it fleshed out her character even more. Her ambition was at an all time high at this point in the series as she marries attorney Steven Cord who's equally if not even more ambitious than she is. Intertwined with their storyline is the Ann Howard Cord murder trial which ultimately reveals Steven's true parentage and knocks the whole town and the Peyton/Harrington families for a loop! It was well scripted and the acting was on point:
George Macready as "Martin Peyton", Ruth Warrick as "Hannah Cord" and James Douglas as "Steven Cord" are all at the top of there game here.

By the time Mia's second replacement rolled into town, Joyce Jillson as "Jill Smith" as another mysterious girl who brings along a baby girl who may or may not be Allison's the show was losing steam. Her storyline was not nearly as interesting as the "Rachael Welles" storyline or for that matter anything else that was going on at this point in the series run. Michael Rossi's rebellious teen brother Joe was thrown into the mix. Betty was becoming the lady of the manor but her marriage to Steven was unraveling due to the devious machinations of Martin Peyton and Adrienne Van Leyden played by the amazing Gena Rowlands. THIS was the storyline that kept me glued to my seat at this point in the show's run. The sparring between all four players of this storyline was unequaled: Parkins, Douglas, Macready and Rowlands were top notch all the way.

Poor Dorothy Malone had very little if anything to do and honestly her character along with Tim O'Connor's portrayal of Eliot Carson were becoming tedious. Mia Farrow's abrupt exit from the series really affected those two characters the most and by the tail end of the fourth season they were written out to make way for their replacements: Barbara Rush as "Marsha Russell" and Elizabeth Walker as "Carolyn Russell" (the "new" Constance and Allison)

By this time the series was really making changes. The psychedelic counter-culture revolution taking a hold of the country and the raging war in Vietnam and the civil rights movement were making their mark and made their way into PEYTON PLACE. First the music's score took a turn for the worse when it was replaced with this pseudo Doors influenced psych music, to add insult to injury a lame rock group named "The Pillory" made it's way into the show's storylines, The Shoreline was transformed into a hippie hangout replete with film projections on the wall, love beads and psychedelic swirling colors,

The characters were changing as well. Everyone was wearing their hair longer and the script was being infused by some really cringe worthy dialogue in an effort to stay "current" and "in". By this time Betty and Steven were divorced and she quickly ran into Rodney's arms in a storyline that was so forced that in my opinion it didn't give either one of those characters any time to really "breathe".

Last effort for the writer's were to introduce viewers to PEYTON PLACE'S first African American family to be prominently featured on the show. During the show's run there were many African American characters but they were mostly seen in the background or law enforcement officers, nurses, etc. This time the head of the family was prominent neurosurgeon Dr. "Harry Miles" (Percy Rodrigues) his wife "Alma" (Ruby Dee) and their son "Lew" (Glynn Turman) had their characters been introduced to the series a year or two prior it would have been revolutionary but by this time Diahann Carroll was starring in her own sit-com and Bill Cosby was on I SPY so it was more "jumping on the band wagon"  if anything.

Honorable mentions must go to Diana Hyland as "Susan Winters", who was a really twisted, messed up character....and fun to watch and Robert Hogan as her husband "Rev. Tom Winter".

It was great to finally watch the entire series but I have to say the show was most definitely at it's absolute best for it's first 3 seasons.

I just noticed that next Tuesday is the 45th anniversary of the premiere of Peyton Place on ABC. 

 

Since I bought the two SF sets during the DD sale this summer (thanks to everyone here for convincing me with their enthuiasm), I plan to start watching them next week on Tuesdays and Thursdays just as they were originally shown. 

Sorry,
I have been away so LONG !!!
Mark wishing you a SPEEDY recovery, sorry to hear that you are out of commission for awhile.
And Mello Yello, I am in total agreement with you the first THREE seasons were the best.  After, that it did become tedious and boring.  I became an occasional viewer after Rachel departed. I will by the series up to that point.  I am really not interested in the series after Allison left the show.  I remember watching it with Barbara Rush and thought Grace Metalious, must be rolling over in her grave at the thought of this nonsense !!
Allison left the book and became an authoress.  My feeling is they should have recast Allison. Leigh Taylor Young would have made a perfect Allison.  It changed the whole dynamic of the series.  Allison was central to the BOOK, FILM, and SERIES.  She left and there was a huge void.  It was not the same.  They could have had her disappear for a month and returned as a new person.  TRIVIA- Charmain Carr from "THE SOUND OF MUSIC" tested for the role of ALLISON.  
also, did anyone catch on RODNEY and BETTY'S honeymoon Betty mentioned the name of "EDEN HILL" as the team Rod played against at PPHS ?? "EDEN HILL" was the working pilot name for "PEYTON PLACE" !!!
Looking forward to SET 3 ??   Anyone know the status.  I have not completed set one yet I am on the last two episodes of it now.  Set two is waiting in the wings........

When it comes to TV on DVD, I try to watch shows in close approximation to how they were originally broadcast.  I've been watching Dark Shadows for over a year now, one episode a weeknight, and I think it gains something from the measured pace.  It also helps keep my excitement up to see the next episode, which I wouldn't have if I gorged myself on a series all at once. 

Here's a question for you PP experts.  How accurate are the online episode guides for this series?  I was trying to work out the broadcast dates of the episodes in the SF sets.  So does Part Two run through 22 Apr 1965 or 27 Apr 1965?

Edited by Tim Tucker - 9/16/09 at 9:39am

CHECK OUT THIS REVIEW FROM THE  NEW YORK 
TIMES of PART TWO !!!!!
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/19/arts/television/19karp.html

And another great BLOG about "PP" !!!!
http://anotheroldmovieblog.blogspot.com/2009/09/in-search-of-peyton-place.html


Edited by AlanP - 9/11/09 at 7:14am

I watched the first episode last night.

Never have I seen a more lyrical piece of television.  Modern shows just pale in conparison.

I also immediately started catch the Dark Shadows parallels. 

Ta very much Mark Collins for the warm welcome!  You are in my prayers as I have survived a kidney transplant and am now dealing wih CML...leukaemia.  I wish you all the best always!
Nw, about Peyton Place...........does anyone now when set 3 might come out and if there are any possiblities of extras such as the original pilot with Selena Cross??  Would also love to see RETURN TO PEYTON PLACE (NBC daytime, 3 April 1972--4 January 1974) added in as a bnus for us fans!  I would give anything to see those eppys once again just to see the Benny Tate murder saga with Allison, D.B. Bentley (played by the late Mary Frann), Monica Bell who worked at Ada's.............along with so many others!!!!
Blessings to all the fans out there with cheers and regards!
x

Yes, again my thoughts are with Mark Collins.
I finally have a decent scanner and will share RTPP articles/photos from my old Daytime TV magazines. One is a full page color cast photo on the stairs of the Peyton Mansion. There was also a Who's Who on the flip side. Bear with me.

Volume 3 has to come out with extras!

OMG!  SueEllen I LOVED RTPP and would give anything to see it again.  I sure wish they would release it as part of the PP dvd releases>  Would also love to hear more about the RTPP series from your perspective.  I find so many people have never even heard of it before.
As always cheers and regards to Mark Collins.
Blessings to all always
x

Now that I'm watching the DVDs, what strikes me most is how much the show benefited from having access to the Fox music department.  The full orchestral scores for each episode (whether written for the show, or recycled from earlier Fox films, such as the Franz Waxman theme) raise the show to a higher level than it would be otherwise.  

I even recognize some of the names on the credits -- conductor Lionel Newman, composer Fred Steiner, and music editor George Korngold (Erich Wolfgang Korngold's son.)

Did Peyton Place ever have a soundtrack album back in the '60s?

Hey all-

I was just on the Shout Factory Forum marked TV Shows from the 60's and found a thread marked "More Peyton Place".  Here is a thread from Brian Ward of Shout Factory:

"Okay, I'm coming in to update, but PLEASE send any and all responses to THIS thread.  Do NOT create new threads for this topic.  Maintenance on this site is pretty time consuming, when we're just responding to multiple threads on the same topics.  And if you're wondering, I chose this one because it has the largest number of responses.

So...

We have exhausted the number of episodes we licensed from FOX for Peyton Place, which means we don't have the legal authority to proceed from here with more sets, yet.  I say, "yet."  We are currently actively making efforts to secure more episodes of this wonderful series, but deals like this take time.  So don't think we've abandoned it.  We're just trying to get more episodes and can't do anything with the show until we do.

Once again, I'll keep you posted further.

Brian"

So there you have it-  In a later posting Brian says they are pleased with the numbers to date from the first two volumes, but that they would not have been good numbers if Fox was doing the releases.  I get the impression that the show is not dead... they are exploring avenues apparently to continue-  So keep your fingers, toes and eyes crossed!!

Jack

Interesting that they would licence out a block of episodes. I wonder how they fixed upon this particular number of episodes to start with - even over two boxes, or the end of the first major storyline or what? 

^ I don't think it has anything to do with Fox being 'stingy'. Shout cut a deal for x number of episodes, they released them and now they have to make another deal. I'm sure Fox would have loved if Shout licensed every episode of the series at one time but no company would be dumb enough to buy the rights to the entire series when they couldn't be sure it would sell.

Alan-

I don't think Fox is terribly impressed with the number of units sold... However, for a smaller company like Shout sales have been good, and they want to continue to release the discs.  They need to get rights from Fox however,  to proceed.  I can only hope a resolution will be reached sooner than later!

Jack

HI Guys back I am I beat the big C.  I am clean but 2 months recovery.  I feel so gratefull to all for prayers and well wishs Alan Jack Charles Sue Ellen MelloYello Faircake to whom I am very humble. Cake  My God all you have been thru and to think of me words cannot say it except thankyou so very much!  Also thanks to everyone else!!!  I see we have been busy Jack and Alan and we have Tim. Welcome and I see another strong voice in you. Please let us all hear more voices and those I listed who were with us at the start.  Yes Alan I think a reporter said Shout had rights to the show.  Tim I have always loved the scores for Peyton Place.  The Character Themes are great.  Varaitons were used on Bettys theme Rod and Allison even Connies I believe.  Well Guys I do not have a lap top so bye for now.  Keep that energy going for Peyton Place showing Shout we are behind them.  Thanks once more to everyone!!!

Mark

Mark,

Glad to hear that FANTASTIC news that you are on the MEND !!!

Will keep sending WARM POSITIVE HEALING ENERGY YOUR DIRECTION!!!
I started Box two, so I am going to slow down watching the series as there is nothing
in the pipeline as of yet.
FEEL GOOD and WE ARE ALL THINKING ABOUT YOU !!!
Alan

Hey Alan my Good Buddie thanks for the great welcome back!!!  The energy you spoke of I am sure is doing its work.  I was looking in and missed your comments. I hope nothiing was wrong while you were gone.  You said it right though the slow down on Peyton Place watching I had hoped not to happen.  I  do not want to see us lose new fans and old while waiting for Fox and Shout to works things out.  Mean while Alan as you have done so many times with your great comments we must keep this going.  Charles Dream must continue and I know all of us will help in that effort. I am convinced we helped sell some of those dvds.  I sure would like to hear again from those great people we had at the start of this thread. IThe new people though are a very great victory to the show and all of us we are so happy to have you.  I ment to thank Jack for the Shout Forum too.  Jack is Shout saying they did not wish to be bogged down with emails on the show or did I read you wrong on that.  How can we show our support if not email.  Should we phone Fox  Shout or both?  I am glad you were there though.  The fact they have not dumped the show was great to hear.  I was glad to see Sue Ellen back we all enjoyed those RP synopsis so much.  Sue Ellen was the town square the same and Ada's and the Peyton House??  Alan you have talked about that PP pilot before and you always make me want to see it.  What is in it? Charles how was the DS convention?? Would you like to see PP go the new MPI route with DS.  I have to say no but if that is all we can get.  Why did MPI not put those condensed storylines in Blu-ray like Star Trek now in season 3. 

Thanks again Alan for the great welcome back!!!  I know  I am very lucky to be here.

Mark