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I felt the show did not lose steam until George left the show. Then the purge of charaters with new added and a new opening for the show as well. Teen sex the Veitnam War African Americans as regulars race issues call girls and much much more.

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post #32 of 610

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I'm really pleased that this is occurring, and that Shout! is handling it. I am even more pleased that the full-screen b&w video for the first two seasons is, according to the link, going to be used. I wouldn't purchase the set if the b&w seasons were colorized.

As I've mentioned before, I own Dark Shadows on VHS and DVD, and Peyton Place is the only other soap that I would purchase. However, I need to know for certain, and from about two or three authoritative sources, that these DVDs will include the program uncut before I lay out any money for the series. I think it will be uncut, but one never knows. For my own part, I also don't need any special features. The show was superb on its own, and it will be wonderful to see it in its entirety.
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Charles,

Any idea what Peyton Place - Part I means? I see that the collection consists of 720 min. (12 hours). Is this one half of a season, a complete season, or something else? I'd rather not take a guess. Thanks.
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I'm sure David Lambert will report back with something soon enough on that one.
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Originally Posted by Mark Collins
I felt the show did not lose steam until George left the show. Then the purge of charaters with new added and a new opening for the show as well. Teen sex the Vietnam War African Americans as regulars race issues call girls and much much more.


Exactly. George Macready's departure from the show really marked the beginning of the end, even more the abrupt dismissal of Dorothy Malone and Tim O'Connor a few months later in mid- '68. Martin Peyton was my favorite character of all: the wily old puppetmaster who manipulated everybody in town, and ruined many a life just to get what he wanted. He makes J.R. Ewing look like an altar boy by comparison!

It looks like the show will be on DVD in the same manner Dark Shadows was: a couple of weeks (or months) of episodes to be released every other month or so- or so I hope!
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Charles,
Do you know if the pilot still exists ?? I love "PEYTON PLACE" the first few years, and after ALLISON, left the series it was never the same to me.
They should have recast the role, like they did with Fallon on "DYNASTY". It was never the same. I wish they would include the PILOT !!! That would be a treat. Please don't forget the cast photo from the PILOT !!! Would LOVE TO SEE IT !!!
Thanks !!
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If I can find it, I'll try to scan it. I don't know if the pilot still exists. As for Dynasty, I felt replacing Pamela Sue Martin with Emma Samms was a huge mistake! She was totally miscast and should've stayed on General Hospital! And guess who told her daddy to hire Emma in the first place? That's right- 12-year-old Tori Spelling!
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It's worth noting that the concept of "seasons" is nearly meaningless with PEYTON PLACE. The show was so immediately popular that it continued throughout the summers with new episodes. There were breaks in production, but Fox stockpiled enough episodes to carry the show through without repeats.

There are points here and there in the series' run where multiple storylines are wrapped up and new ones are launched over the course of one or two episodes, but those don't always coincide with the typical dates of a new TV season. There are occasional leaps forward in time by a few months, to kind of force a rejuvenation of the storytelling, but the first one doesn't occur until episode 69.

Looking back at my notes, I see that one minor storyline involving Dr. Rossi (Ed Nelson) is wrapped in episode 29, and that Elliot's parole & return to Peyton Place begins in episode 30 (even though Tim O'Connor had made dramatic cameos in a couple of earlier episodes). So I'm guessing Shout might divide the sets between 29 & 30, even though the major plotlines continue uninterrupted. In any case Shout will have a lot of angry buyers on its hands if it has to abandon PEYTON PLACE in the middle.

(Along those lines, it's pretty hilarious that despite the HTF's laudable anti-bootleg stance, Google's ad software drops a multitude of links to dubious sites selling boots of the entire PEYTON PLACE series into this page. I guess if Shout bails, people won't have to look very hard to finish the show.)
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Originally Posted by Stephen Bowie
It's worth noting that the concept of "seasons" is nearly meaningless with PEYTON PLACE. The show was so immediately popular that it continued throughout the summers with new episodes. There were breaks in production, but Fox stockpiled enough episodes to carry the show through without repeats.

There are points here and there in the series' run where multiple storylines are wrapped up and new ones are launched over the course of one or two episodes, but those don't always coincide with the typical dates of a new TV season. There are occasional leaps forward in time by a few months, to kind of force a rejuvenation of the storytelling, but the first one doesn't occur until episode 69.

Looking back at my notes, I see that one minor storyline involving Dr. Rossi (Ed Nelson) is wrapped in episode 29, and that Elliot's parole & return to Peyton Place begins in episode 30 (even though Tim O'Connor had made dramatic cameos in a couple of earlier episodes). So I'm guessing Shout might divide the sets between 29 & 30, even though the major plotlines continue uninterrupted. In any case Shout will have a lot of angry buyers on its hands if it has to abandon PEYTON PLACE in the middle.

(Along those lines, it's pretty hilarious that despite the HTF's laudable anti-bootleg stance, Google's ad software drops a multitude of links to dubious sites selling boots of the entire PEYTON PLACE series into this page. I guess if Shout bails, people won't have to look very hard to finish the show.)
Stephen,

Thanks, that's very helpful (Peyton Place and the concept of seasons).

I don't see Shout! abandoning this series. If they do it right, I'll be picking up two copies of each collection.

As far as your last paragraph is concerned, this is one series that I won't be booting, for both personal and philosophical reasons.
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I agree about Dynasty the character should of disapeared with a question of return. Mia Farrow could never be replaced either. I two own all vhs best etc and dvd of Dark Shadwos and hope the release of Peyton Place will be like the MPI releases every other month or even ever month as they did before. I hope Shout will look at MPI and learn. Or even Dallas for that matter. I still how for Peyton Place Revisted and new Generation complete and not edited. I disliked the radical move the show made in its last year or so. I think they wanted to be more hip. Frankly the storylines bored me. The Betty and Steve sceans were all I like. They wanted to apear to older people in one breath with Eli and young people out for sex as well as the good Doctor and his girl frend.
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I have been watching episodes taped from the Romance Channel 10 years or so ago. The prints themselves certainly leave much to be desired, however, they were run complete with the teaser for the next episode. They run about 24 minutes each, so at 720 minutes we'll be getting 30 episodes in Volume 1.

The storylines are engaging, and the acting is excellent. It really is classic television at its' finest. I have really enjoyed the show, and I will be buying at least two sets at a time, and perhaps more for gifts. I'd love to see Shout! find success with this! Every other month would be a great release schedule... do you really think we could see that kind of consistency? MPI has done such an excellent job with Dark Shadows, I truly hope Peyton Place receives similiar treatment!

I'm hoping no one has to resort to bootlegs to see the entire run of this one.

Jack
post #42 of 610

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This is one series that I hope sells really well. I wonder if such a show would appeal to a younger (say, 20-30 year old) audience? I have no idea.
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Originally Posted by Ockeghem
This is one series that I hope sells really well. I wonder if such a show would appeal to a younger (say, 20-30 year old) audience? I have no idea.

All I would say to that is that whatever seemed shocking in 1964 would be considerably less so in 2009. Peyton Place was considered naughty and scandalous in its day; now we have Gossip Girl. I don't think 20-30 year olds will get into it, but it's perfect for nostalgia and should find its dvd-buying audience.

But geez--I don't know how many of you read the original novels, but they were easily about 20 times naughtier than the movie and tv shows...! Very salacious for their time; maybe they still are. It's easy to see why Selena was dropped after the pilot; if they followed her storyline from the novel, she'd have been brutally raped by her step-father and basically became the town slut. Not typical primetime tv fare.
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I bought up all the novels and the two novels which number two was not like the movie with incest family murder. Two books on how the novels and movies came to be. The paper back novels were very shocking to me. The plots were designed to have a lot of sex and not much content. The romance channel did a fine job and I was glad when they repeated it for awhile. Martin Peyton was my favorite in the show. I think Allison leaving gave the show an opening for new plot lines even though I liked Mia Farrow. The Rod Betty Steve storyling was very Gone With The Wind in triangle That last year the show wanted to be everything to everybody.
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Well, I guess I can only speak for myself here, but I'm turning 27 next month and to me, the news of this release was actually the best of everything posted on tvshowsondvd.com last Friday. I really can't wait to get into PEYTON PLACE! Without this show, most of the primetime soaps that followed probably wouldn't have seen the light of day.
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I know many of you are against recasting a known role. However, do not forget for one season of "PEYTON PLACE" when Allison (was on her honeymoon with Sinatra) but on the series she was in a coma, Dorothy Malone was also away for open heart surgery and Lola Albright replaced her for the entire winter season that year, which I believe was three months. Similar to Donna Reed taking over for Ms. Ellie on "DALLAS". And no one said a word. As I remember she was great as Constance. Then later in the series George MacRaedy was away for an extended illness and Wilfred Hyde White stepped into the role. It was not a big deal with either being away from the series. I still think Leigh Taylor Young could have stepped in for Mia, after a few months and it would have been like she was always Allison. She had a very similar look.
As a matter of fact she and Ryan O'Neal got married as a result of "Peyton Place". I also read that Gene Tierney was to be cast as Constance in the sequel to the film "RETURN TO PEYTON PLACE" and then Eleanor Parker ended up with the role. I was hoping when they released the DVD of the film "Peyton Place", they would have included the pilot. There is alot of controversy concerning the pilot. Monash was very happy with it, and not sure what happened. I mean they certainly did not have to keep the angle of the storyline from the film in the series. The series bears no resemblance to the books or the films other than a few central characters. Every storyline was gone from the film, basically !!
Still enjoyed the series though until Allison left.........................
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The reason why Gene Tierney was unable to do the film was pregnancy, unfortunately she miscarried. Also, Dorothy didn't have heart surgery, she had a severe lung infection that led to a near-fatal embolism and blood clots. Fortunately after a few months she was on the road to recovery. Lola Albright was quite good (loved her on Peter Gunn!), and she should have been offered another role on the show. BTW, when Allison was in her coma on the show, it was before she married Sinatra. She went off with him on a sailing trip off the Atlantic coast, and it made news all over.
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Originally Posted by AlanP
I know many of you are against recasting a known role. However, do not forget for one season of "PEYTON PLACE" when Allison (was on her honeymoon with Sinatra) but on the series she was in a coma, Dorothy Malone was also away for open heart surgery and Lola Albright replaced her for the entire winter season that year, which I believe was three months. Similar to Donna Reed taking over for Ms. Ellie on "DALLAS". And no one said a word. As I remember she was great as Constance. Then later in the series George MacRaedy was away for an extended illness and Wilfred Hyde White stepped into the role. It was not a big deal with either being away from the series. I still think Leigh Taylor Young could have stepped in for Mia, after a few months and it would have been like she was always Allison. She had a very similar look.
As a matter of fact she and Ryan O'Neal got married as a result of "Peyton Place". I also read that Gene Tierney was to be cast as Constance in the sequel to the film "RETURN TO PEYTON PLACE" and then Eleanor Parker ended up with the role. I was hoping when they released the DVD of the film "Peyton Place", they would have included the pilot. There is alot of controversy concerning the pilot. Monash was very happy with it, and not sure what happened. I mean they certainly did not have to keep the angle of the storyline from the film in the series. The series bears no resemblance to the books or the films other than a few central characters. Every storyline was gone from the film, basically !!
Still enjoyed the series though until Allison left.........................
That's all very interesting information.

I remember when Victoria Winters (A. Moltke) left Dark Shadows. The show wasn't the same, but I still enjoyed many of the story lines that occurred after her departure. I don't remember too much of Peyton Place after Allison left. It is very possible that my family (mostly my mother, and through her, me) stopped watching it for reasons unrelated to the show, though.

This release is beginning to send chills down my spine. I am very much looking forward to a nostalgic stroll down memory -- and we're talking the dark recesses of my mind kind of memory -- lane. It is very possible that the images I end up seeing when I rewatch the show will resonate as strongly as many of those from The Outer Limits did when I eventually rewatched that show several years succeeding 1963.
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Charles is right about Mia and Dorothy I thought I read or heard Mia was under studio suspension writers placed her in coma. Then came to cutting her hair to cause more studio headaces. I liked Lola too and remember when Dorothy came back. Just as in Martins place I was happy to have both actors return to their original rolls. In 1997 I read in TV guide about the show retruning on Romance Channel this caused me to run out and buy my first satilite system so I could watch my favorite show all over again. Last show ended on a question which I believe the whole key to the answer was there. I still wonder where I got the notion the cast went to Europe to film an ending for the show. Good chemstry I rate Steve and Betty Allison and Rod Norman and Rita Connie and Elliot Mike and Ann Martin and Hannah Eddie and Ada Leslie and Catherine Susan and Tom Eli and Everyone.
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Does anyone know Grace Metalious' feelings on the series ?? Did she have anything to do with the original pilot ?? Or was she still alive at that point ??
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Mark, I've heard that story of an "European ending" before: supposedly the show was such a hit in The Netherlands, several cast members were flown over to Amsterdam to film a tacked-on happy ending. I don't know if it's fact or urban legend- someone must know. Ed Nelson, Barbara Rush, Elizabeth 'Tippy' Walker, Ruby Dee and Patricia Morrow were in that last episode, as were Glynn Turman and James Douglas. They're still alive to confirm or deny. As to Ms. Metalious, she died in early '64, as the show was starting its first season with the revised pilot. Apparently when she made the deal with Fox for the novel and the sequel, she more or less lost any control over what the studio did with it. It is well-known that Paul Monash wasn't a big fan of the novel, and even before the pilot was revised he took a lot of the more salacious material out of the story. I've a Look magazine from '65 (a must-own for any PP fan- losts of rare photos, including a 2-page color cast spread!) in which he compares his version of Metalious' story to Our Town, but shown several times a week!
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Charles, you state REVISED "pilot" were there two pilots filmed ?? The LOOK mag story is that before the 'pilot" was filmed ?? Then, if her rewrote the pilot what changes did he make. And in the original pilot was Rossi a principal or Dr. at that point and was Mathew Swain head of the paper or a Dr. ?? Just trying to figure if the changes were made pre pilot or later.
Thanks, you have wonderful stories about the series.... What else did the Look Article state ??
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Please refer to my earlier posts regarding the failed '63 pilot and the revisions in this thread......

BTW, the issue of Look in question is the October 19, 1965 isue with cars on the cover. Copies are easy to get thru eBay.
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Charles,
Did you by any chance read the book "INSIDE PEYTON PLACE" by Emily Toth.
I have not read it. Supposedly there are many scoops about the whole story of the books, films, and series........... Must be quite a READ !!!!
Any insight into it ??
Thanks.....
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I've been trying to locate a copy for years. Sandra Bullock owns the rights to the Grace Metalious bio, and has announced plans to play her in a biopic. However, this was over a year ago, and I've haven't heard any other news on the project.
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Any idea why this is not on the Shout! web site? I've looked several times over the weekend, and again today but no info yet. Do we have any idea yet on a price for the set, and if there are any extras?

Jack
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Charles I have the book "Inside Peyton Place" and it is a good read. There is a section devoted to Peyton Place on TV. I read the book some years back when buying all the 9 paper backs and the tenth a bio paperback on Grace Metalious written by her exhusband 1965. Just flipping thru the pages I see it has a wealth of info on the show yet I think you have a great deal more and could straighten them out. It also outlines the crazy novels and the daytime soap and the first post series movie. The cool part was in 1979 which you might already know they were pushing to put Peyton Place back on the air. Even before Dallas hit their famous episode. It looks like the screen play for Peyton Place Next Generation.

Two things about Next Gen. Why Peyton Place fans did the writers call the Carson Daughter Kelly. Was it because they looked in on some episode of the show saw Connie with a baby and calling it Kelly and said "Oh good here is our Betty" for the new show. Not even doing their homework that baby Matthew was there and big part of the show. Next Gen did a nice rework of dialog with Betty telling Mike in his office about having Steves child from when Betty was a nurse in black and white no less. Nice touch because all the flash backs were black and white.

Just like "Murder in Peyton Place" had "Stella Stevens" in black and white again in Mikes office mouthing lines in black and white to what make us forget "Lee Grant as Stella.

The other question I saw the broadcast of Peyton Place Revisited with Peter Lawford hosting and someone said there were no tvs on Peyton Place. That is the only quote that stuck with me. In 1976 when they put the show in reruns I found of course that was not true. The tv in Carson house is always there. Rilta is watching one in her hospital bed.

Yes I too have been to Shout. I am glad I am not the only one monitoring.
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Originally Posted by Jack Cleveland
Any idea why this is not on the Shout! web site? I've looked several times over the weekend, and again today but no info yet. Do we have any idea yet on a price for the set, and if there are any extras?

Jack


Too early, Jack, for it to be on Shout!'s site. Usually that happens a few weeks after I get the info from my sources. Price is $39.99 SRP, I've found out, and the plan right now is that there will be some extras, but we don't know what and I'm waiting for more substantial info before posting my next news story about it.
post #59 of 610

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I think I will blind buy this show
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I've found out, and the plan right now is that there will be some extras, but we don't know what and I'm waiting for more substantial info before posting my next news story about it.[/quote]

Hope it is the "UNAIRED PILOT", that would be the piece d' resistance !!!!
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