MY DREAM CAME TRUE- "Peyton Place" on DVD this May from Shout! Entertainment!! - Page 8

Re: MY DREAM CAME TRUE- "Peyton Place" on DVD this May from Shout! Entertainment!!

I have it!!! The big river has still to deliver. Call my local Best Buy 3 copies 15 minutes away. 31.99 on sale. They said they expect to carry it for next release. Great news!! But check 2 weeks prior to release date to make sure.
My Champagne will soon be uncorked and the popcorn will be popping. Long weekend here I come!!!

Re: MY DREAM CAME TRUE- "Peyton Place" on DVD this May from Shout! Entertainment!!

The release of the first prime time soap opera "Peyton Place" is something I (and judging by the posts on this board,quite a few others)have been waiting for for a long time.I have not seen these episodes since their initial run in 1964. The excellent acting and riveting storylines made a lasting impression on me even as a child back then. While I am very happy to finally have this set,I am quite disappointed in the quality of the video transfers which IMHO,range anywhere from mediocre to a poor VHS tape. I appreciate the fact that this is a series that aired in 1964,but that is also the year "The Fugitive" was broadcast. However, "The Fugitive" DVD releases have featured pristine, crystal sharp video images,in stark contrast to what we have on "Peyton Place".Unfortunately,I have to say that I am really not that surprised by this,as this seems to be the norm in regards to Shout! Factory's previous releases. They don't seem to want to invest the money,or effort, to clean up the images;they seem to be primarily interested in just releasing DVDs,and the quality be damned.

While I don't know if the source material from which these DVDs were recorded were badly deteriorated or not,it seems to me if Shout! Factory really wanted to invest the money to correct this for a much anticipated benchmark television series which so many of us have eagerly waited for,they could have done so,akin to the restoration effort done for another landmark series,"The Fugitive". If this restoration process caused the price of these sets to be more expensive,I know I,and I'm sure most other "Peyton Place" fans would be willing to pay the extra cost.

Having said all this,will I be buying the 2nd release of "Peyton Place" come July? Of course I will,because having a less than satisfactory DVD of this wonderful series is infinitely better than having no DVD release at all.

Re: MY DREAM CAME TRUE- "Peyton Place" on DVD this May from Shout! Entertainment!!

In fact, I popped my vhs recordings of these same episodes in, and reminded myself in an instant just how much better these dvds look, despite the flaws
I cannot complain about Shout Factory's release in any way, because I am so damn grateful for it.

Rewatching these, I was reminded of the time that 'serials' took in this era, and indeed through the early 1980's...time taken with character development and conversation...and I absolutely love it.

Re: MY DREAM CAME TRUE- "Peyton Place" on DVD this May from Shout! Entertainment!!

The cable reruns of "The Fugitive'' were of poor video quality as well. That didn't prevent the studio that released the DVDs from doing a phenomenal restoration process on them,resulting in images that looked like they were recorded last week.

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Yep--My Best Buys are carrying it too. Why do I even mention it? Because BB has been a pain in the ass lately in terms of NOT carrying classic tv releases. But BB does have PP.

Meanwhile, there's a poll at Shout! Factory's site, asking us which classic tv shows should get another volume. Naturally, I voted for Peyton Place!

Here's a link to the tvshowsondvd article:

Site News DVD news: Shout! Factory Survey | TVShowsOnDVD.com

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Any ire at Shout Factory over the quality of the elements used for this, or Room 222, or Rhoda, etc- is misdirected, imo.
Shout doesn't own or control these shows and has never owned or controlled them- Fox has. Licensees like Shout have their hands tied. They are too small to absorb the cost of new transfers (and that's if the elements even exist than can yield better masters at this point). In fact, the poor quality of the materials may be a contributing factor to why its true owner (Fox) has never and refuses to put these out under it- own banner. Shout has essentially rescued these abused and neglected properties and is willing to invest resources into making them available for an eventual return that is a dismissive pittance to Fox.
The crew at Shout are still the heroes here in my book.

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CBS didn't merely create new Hi-Def transfers from the 35mm source for the DVD. But also so they could syndicate these shows. They are profiting from this upgrade. It's their property/asset. If you're renting a house, you're not going to invest in wood floors and an in-ground swimming pool? Shout! has a limited time to release these DVD sets.

It's up to Fox to get these shows done right since they ought to be using them on some sort of Fox properties TVLand channel/subchannel - especially since it sounds like they're not going to be running that much Fox stuff on American Life Channel this summer

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If you read my post in its entirety,you would know I am grateful that "Peyton Place" has finally been released,and that I fully intend to buy the 2nd release in July,even though it's a virtual certainty that the video resolution on that set will probably be as bad as the first.

The problem I have with Shout! is that they seem to continuously put out these sets which have undergone little or no remastering. Ultimately,if you are a company that always puts out an inferior product,it doesn't take a giant intellect to realize what the future has in store for you.

In this day and age of HD Television and Blu-ray discs,the average consumer is very discerning in his tastes;we have progressed beyond VHS tapes and 8-track cartridges.The technology does exist to clean up vintage shows which have a huge following...but it takes money and effort to do so. If Shout! cannot afford or is unwilling to do so,I'm sure there is another entity out there
who will seize the opportunity.

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Name a DVD distributor that will spend their own cash to make HD transfers from the 35mm masters of a TV series and not have ownership of that property outside of DVD rights?

The profit margin is already tight after the limited licensing fee, manufacturing, distribution and returns. Even if you did want to make the new transfers, Fox won't be handing you the elements. They'll have their people do it and send you the bill.

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Then Shout! should let Fox make the new transfers,incur the extra expense,and pass the costs onto the consumer.

Let's face facts...the vast majority of people who are going to buy this set as currently constituted are those who are old enough,like myself,to have watched this show when it originally aired. It is highly unlikely that those born in the 1980's and beyond will purchase a 45 year old black and white soap opera...and when word gets around that the video transfers on these discs are subpar as well...the probability of younger consumers buying "Peyton Place" IMHO,would be next to non-existant.However,if the set was remastered to the same extent as "The Fugitive" DVDs were,offering a pristine, crystal sharp image...then word of mouth re:the quality of the show's acting and storylines in addition to the excellent video transfers would spur buying by this demographic as well.

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A majority of people in the demographic block you describe are AARP members. Their eyesight is going. They don't care about how a TV looks as long as there is an image to be seen. I've got a grandmother who owns an HD TV, but still watches the standard def channels. She doesn't need the difference. These elderly people watched this series originally with rabbit ears with ghosting images. They just want their stories.

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That all sounds great, but the Fugitive has a much bigger following - and it didn't sell that well. Definitely not enough to recoup the cost of the remastering. So to not lose their shirts on the deal, they hopefully had a big deal to sell the show into syndication.

Fox could do the same for PP, but they aren't going to spend the money unless they know they can get it back.

The problem is that remastering is EXPENSIVE. Just like music licensing and everything else involved with making a DVD set. And you'd be surprised how many sets not only don't make money, but never come close to recouping.

Here's an example. I worked on a set that required 100,000 in music licensing. It sold 1500 copies. Now, I can tell you we didn't make 67.00 profit on each set sold. And that doesn't include the cost to license the program, authoring, manufacturing, marketing, advertising, packaging, shipping, etc.

We'd all love to have all of our favorite shows painstakingly remastered from the original elements and with extensive (and relevant) special features. But the reality is, sales of most shows (especially older ones) won't support that. And the increase in sales from "doing it properly" is almost never anywhere near big enough to compensate.

So the only viable options are:

1. Release it roughly as/is
2. Don't release it at all

I'd rather take what I can get - especially on niche or cult shows that don't air regularly on some cable station.

Re: MY DREAM CAME TRUE- "Peyton Place" on DVD this May from Shout! Entertainment!!

Just to clarify, The Fugitive did sell well enough to keep more sets coming, correct?

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Okay... I'm going to speak out on this remastering issue, something I have rarely done on this forum. When the series was announced, I thoroughly expected that some people would not be happy with the condition of the print quality. Having purchased this set from someone who had prints copied from the Romance Channel run, the prints seem to be complete (at least the first 200 episodes or so that I have watched in the last year and a half that I've had the set), but they were in deplorable (Yes, DEPLORABLE) condition. Film dirt, splices, lines that must come from age, all detracting from the quality. But it has NOT kept me from falling in love with this show, it's characters, or it's storyline. I have rarely ever purchased any show that was not officially released by the studio, but I really never thought this one would see the light of day.
I have watched the first five episodes, merely for quality inspection, and I have to say that these are in much better condition than what was aired years ago. Are they perfect? No. Are they better than what I had? Yes... And to be honest, since it was not coming from Fox but from Shout!, I expected worse then what I have seen thus far. If nothing else, it appears they returned to original negatives to strike new prints. (Can anyone verify this?) Does that count for anything? I think it does.
I understand the frustration people feel when quality seems to vary on DVD releases, and I understand if some refuse to buy because they feel it is sub par for their standard of quality. That is certainly their perogative to not buy, and to feel let down.
I believe the quality of the show itself outweighs these issues. I'm sure the quality could have been better, but as a fan of this show, I am happy to have officially sanctioned sets. I will continue to purchase future sets from Shout!, and will support this product. The acting, the writing, and the superior production values makes this worth the price for me.
FWIW, that's where I stand!

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I dunno. Depends on how big of a champion the show has at Paramount. Hopefully.

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Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, it's going to cause the people who panic over any and everything to freak out.

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Charles-
Do you or anyone else know if they used the original negatives from Fox for this set?

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A 1966 close has been posted on YouTube. Looks like it's taken from a network print as it includes the complete'brought to you' by message. Interestingly it does not include the animated TCF-TV bit at the end but goes straight from the sponsor tag to the ABC presentation card. Here it is.

YouTube - Peyton Place close 1966

I have a network print of an early Peyton Place episode, so I must look it out and see if it's the same.

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Found it. It is this episode.

Season 2, Episode 102: Episode #2.102
Original Air Date—10 May 1966
Dr. Rossi tells Rita she is not pregnant, but not sleeping and eating enough. Martin Peyton wants a new will and is determined to contact Ann's father. Steven and Betty prepare for a plan against Martin Peyton. Betty offers to be his spy.

In this episode they do have the TCF TV animation after the sponsor tag, followed by a public service message and the ABC presentation card.

Still awaiting delivery of the DVD's. I should get them during the week as I'm in England.

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Lets see how old would Norman and Rita's baby be now ........................
Anyway, if you guys want more PEYTON PLACE you best follow that link and VOTE, i just did and it is not PULLING HIGH NUMBER'S at this point ranking near the bottom of the list............Get yourselves over there and VOTE NOW. Or we will be lucky to see Constance and Elliot's wedding take place !!!! That should happen around Volume 3.................... SO VOTE NOW and OFTEN !!!!!!

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Alan I voted and also wanted to add that Borders also has one copy of the show. With BB and on line retailers I hope that means the show will continue at Shout. I do not understand about the quality issues. I think it looks great!!! Beauty in the eye of the beholder syndrome. Peyton Place was my first love of tv shows then came Dark Shadows. DS certainly has lot of quality issues but look how it has sold. We fans love that show just as fans old new will love Peyton Place. Charles said they look a heck of lot better on DVD then when broadcast which is true. For those of us who are lucky enough in these rough times to own on HD tv we can run them thru a blu-ray machine and the results are fantastic!! I run all my dvds thru it. I collect Dallas except the year without Bobby. Dallas is very grainy and not up to todays standards. I was not going into this because there is nothing left to say that has not been stated. I just felt watching the show this past weekend I had a new set of glasses. The audio is great too. I do not have the muffled sort of sound. I hope Shout stays with it I would be so crushed if they did not.

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Check out this REVIEW !!!
DVD Review: Peyton Place - Part One - Elastic Pop

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As happy as I am to find more people who adore this...I am sorry that so many are disappointed in how it looks.
It is wonderful to wish for a "re-do", but...this is reality talking: I do not see it happening.
I do not know anyone in my huge base of friends and family who has bought this but me....I work for a major retailer in a major US city, and we have not sold one except to myself.
As sad as this makes me, and as eager as I am for more, i am happy with having it at all...I can only hope they release the whole series someday, let alone remaster the thing......but, perhaps that is just "me". And......."Thanks Shout Factory" should become my new signature, because I am thrilled with them.