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post #91 of 237
2/4/09 at 1:44pm

Re: Bale looses it during filming...

Next thing you know, some people will say that having giggle fits is unacceptable too. Which would deprive us of the best part of blooper reels.

Fact is emotions swing hard on movie sets due to the pressure. It is not unexpected.
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post #92 of 237
2/4/09 at 1:46pm

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Originally Posted by KevinGress
And yes, I am indulging in moral superiority - because I've earned it. I go to great lengths to act in a controlled manner towards others in every aspect of life. I do so because I treat others the way I want to be treated. Now, do I fail now and again - sure. But not to that extent.
interesting. so, if the extent of your own moral failings can be excused by the extent of your other moral successes, then why not the same for bale?

i mean, maybe he's a paragon of virtue and selflessness in any number of other areas of his life - perhaps he gives staggering amounts of his wealth quietly and anonymously to charities and works tirelessly to ease the suffering of the patients in the palliative care wards in third-world hospitals. and if so, would that make him more eligible for forgiveness and undertsanding in this case?

the point being that it would be simplicity itself to describe a picture where the "extent " of the failure of bale's outburst was proportionately no greater - or even smaller - than the extent of your own failings relative to the successes of your own acts of self-control.

but whatever: it's not even worth thinking about.

and that's what astonishes me about this thread: why does ANYONE care about this?

seriously.

i. just. don't. understand.
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post #93 of 237
2/4/09 at 2:08pm

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Because it is an entertaining 4 minute clip. Same reason why Casey Kasem's tirade was popular. It's fun. Kimmel's recreation of the event was good too.
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post #94 of 237
2/4/09 at 2:16pm

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Originally Posted by john doran
but whatever: it's not even worth thinking about.

and that's what astonishes me about this thread: why does ANYONE care about this?

seriously.

i. just. don't. understand.

If you didn't care about it you would have skipped right over it and not commented in, and, about it.
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post #95 of 237
2/4/09 at 2:17pm

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Just when you think it can't get any funnier:
Christian Bale Soundboard| UGO.com


Why people are getting their knickers in a twist about this is beyond me. Have some fun people.
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post #96 of 237
2/4/09 at 2:52pm

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Nikki Finke’s Deadline Hollywood Daily Warner Bros Flack Is Back About Bale

You have got to check this out. Absolutely hilarious.
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post #97 of 237
2/4/09 at 3:00pm

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Originally Posted by KevinGress

And yes, I am indulging in moral superiority - because I've earned it. I go to great lengths to act in a controlled manner towards others in every aspect of life. I do so because I treat others the way I want to be treated. Now, do I fail now and again - sure. But not to that extent.

I suppose then I've earned it as well, considering I'm always being referred to as 'such a nice person', who is doing something 'honorable' and sacrificing his time, yet at the same time I don't have a friend on this entire planet whatsoever. So in a sense I've also 'earned' the right to be the biggest asshole ever known as well, because I treat people with almost too much respect, but have nothing in return so I have exercised that right on occasion. If someone screws up enough, sometimes it'll get on your last nerve and it doesn't matter what happens next, as long as that person who screwed up knows it and knows you aren't going to take it anymore. The fact that it was a famous person and that it was recorded means nothing in the end, because this isn't some special case. It happens, it just isn't recorded for the masses to hear every time.


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Now, others have said the two have made their peace with it - fine. But, by the same token, it also sounds like it's a pattern with him. So if I were in the business, I'd think twice before working with him.

Where exactly is this pattern?

His mother and sister insulted him JUST to get a rise out of him, then falsely accused him of assault, JUST to tear him down. That's no pattern, that's a screwed-up family.
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post #98 of 237
2/4/09 at 3:35pm

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Originally Posted by TerryRL
Nikki Finke’s Deadline Hollywood Daily Warner Bros Flack Is Back About Bale

You have got to check this out. Absolutely hilarious.


That is classic.
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post #99 of 237
2/4/09 at 6:55pm

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Of course, this kind of thing has never happened before.

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post #100 of 237
2/4/09 at 7:42pm

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Originally Posted by nolesrule
The director hasn't yelled cut? The director obviously doesn't have control of his set if the DP is doing things that are causing a major distraction to the actors and the director isn't even paying attention to it.

Ever heard the phrase "quiet on the set"? That's rule #1. Anyone not directly involved in what is being put on film between "action" and "cut" should be doing nothing but being quiet and holding still.


That justifies a three minute tirade, spewing forty F-words in front of the cast and crew how?

And if you read my post, I acknowledged that walking into an actor's view during a take was a major breach of set etiquette. It just doesn't justify a psychotic tirade.

And during a take, a director is usually watching the videotap monitor, or the actors themselves and he may not notice somebody walking around the set, and admittedly, he shouldn't have to worry about that.

And I can see why some people are making excuses for Bale's behavior. TDK is a beloved film by many here and the people involved in the film must take on an almost demi-god type aura to some of these fans.
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post #101 of 237
2/4/09 at 7:44pm

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Originally Posted by Nicholas Martin
His mother and sister insulted him JUST to get a rise out of him, then falsely accused him of assault, JUST to tear him down. That's no pattern, that's a screwed-up family.

You were there?

Though I must admit stage parents must be fundamentally screwed-up.
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post #102 of 237
2/4/09 at 9:13pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Hawley
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His mother and sister insulted him JUST to get a rise out of him, then falsely accused him of assault, JUST to tear him down.
You were there?
That probably sounded like a great line when you wrote it, but it really works against you. Think about it.
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post #103 of 237
2/4/09 at 9:33pm

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Any publicity is good publicity. Well played Mr. Bale. Love you or hate you, people are thinking about you
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post #104 of 237
2/4/09 at 10:26pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Hawley
That justifies a three minute tirade, spewing forty F-words in front of the cast and crew how?

A chewing out is a chewing out, whether there are expletives used or not. I guess there were alternatives, like a dainty heart-to-heart or a good old fashioned fist fight. Sometimes enough is enough. I've seen worse, and in those cases it might have been justified too.

People made a big deal out of Anquan Boldin's sideline outburst in the NFC CHampionship Game a couple weeks ago. It was all over the papers, ESPN, everywhere. Except to the people involved, "it was no big deal", "it happens in the heat of the moment", etc.
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post #105 of 237
2/5/09 at 1:28am

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Originally Posted by Michael Reuben
That probably sounded like a great line when you wrote it, but it really works against you. Think about it.

Oh please.

I'll rephrase it then: You listened to a tape where the evil mother and sister of poor old put-upon Christian Bale insulted his wife, admitted it was just to get a rise out of him then bragged about how they were going to tell the police that he physically assaulted them all as part of their vast conspiracy to tear him down?
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post #106 of 237
2/5/09 at 3:55am

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post #107 of 237
2/5/09 at 6:33am

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If someone wants to pass it off as "actual footage", couldn't they at least have done decent lip-synching?
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post #108 of 237
2/5/09 at 6:35am

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Originally Posted by Jeff_Standley
If you didn't care about it you would have skipped right over it and not commented in, and, about it.
i don't care about bale's outburst.

i am, however, amazed that others care about it, and how (and why) they think about it.
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post #109 of 237
2/5/09 at 6:36am

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Originally Posted by Mark Hawley
I'll rephrase it then: You listened to a tape where the evil mother and sister of poor old put-upon Christian Bale insulted his wife, admitted it was just to get a rise out of him then bragged about how they were going to tell the police that he physically assaulted them all as part of their vast conspiracy to tear him down?
Doesn't have the same ring, does it?
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post #110 of 237
2/5/09 at 8:13am

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Originally Posted by john doran
i don't care about bale's outburst.

i am, however, amazed that others care about it, and how (and why) they think about it.

And yet you still commented of one side of the argument? I don't get it I guess, how can you say you don't care, then post your opinion on the same situation we did?

I guess what I'm saying is don't pass judgment on the rest of us when you're doing the same thing. You commented on the same situation the rest of us did (Bale) and then said why do we care about it, somehow distancing yourself from the rest of us.

Also most of the comments in here are how each person could or could not understand how he could do that, not about them caring about Bales outburst. I don't care about Bale personally, I don't know him. But I can see how someone could be in a position to have an outburst like that and I don't think he should be thrown out of society for it.
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post #111 of 237
2/5/09 at 9:06am

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All I know is I'm going to freaking lose it if I see one more internet thread telling me how "Christian Bale looses it during filming".

Sorry, but loose for lose is my A#1 pet peeve. Grrrrrr!
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post #112 of 237
2/5/09 at 9:36am

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Originally Posted by Jeff Gatie
All I know is I'm going to freaking lose it if I see one more internet thread telleing me how "Christian Bale looses it during filming".

Sorry, but loose for lose is my A#1 pet peeve. Grrrrrr!

I think we need to start a new thread,

"Jeff Gatie looses it while talking about Bale thread"
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post #113 of 237
2/5/09 at 9:41am

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Originally Posted by Jeff Gatie
All I know is I'm going to freaking lose it if I see one more internet thread telling me how "Christian Bale looses it during filming".

Sorry, but loose for lose is my A#1 pet peeve. Grrrrrr!
Keep steaming. It's been pointed out several times, and there's a Moderator participating heavily in this thread, so apparently it's not going to be fixed.
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post #114 of 237
2/5/09 at 9:45am

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Originally Posted by Jeff_Standley
And yet you still commented of one side of the argument? I don't get it I guess, how can you say you don't care, then post your opinion on the same situation we did?

I guess what I'm saying is don't pass judgment on the rest of us when you're doing the same thing. You commented on the same situation the rest of us did (Bale) and then said why do we care about it, somehow distancing yourself from the rest of us.
but i didn't comment on bale: i commented on others' comments on bale.

and i'm not sure i'm judging anyone: i'm simply expressing my lack of comprehension about something other people are doing.

(of course, pedantically speaking, i'm judging that other people are doing things that i don't understand; but i'm pretty sure that's not the kind of "judging" you're talking about)
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post #115 of 237
2/5/09 at 9:53am

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Originally Posted by john doran
but i didn't comment on bale: i commented on others' comments on bale.

and i'm not sure i'm judging anyone: i'm simply expressing my lack of comprehension about something other people are doing.

(of course, pedantically speaking, i'm judging that other people are doing things that i don't understand; but i'm pretty sure that's not the kind of "judging" you're talking about)

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post #116 of 237
2/5/09 at 9:57am

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Originally Posted by Malcolm R
Keep steaming. It's been pointed out several times, and there's a Moderator participating heavily in this thread, so apparently it's not going to be fixed.
If the OP wants his title changed, he can ask for it. I don't edit people's posts for typos, and I take the same approach to titles, except when asked.

Jeff will cope. He's a grown-up.
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post #117 of 237
2/5/09 at 10:19am

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Just a thought: the rant seemed to be in two parts, firstly he chewed up the DP, for what I think most can agree was a violation of set etiquette and unprofessional conduct on the part of the DP (leaving aside whether he 'deserved' to get chewed up that way), but he seemed to have calmed down and wanted to go again -- and isn't that the mark of a professional, focusing on the job at hand, despite less than ideal working conditions -- but the director suggested a break, which Bale didn't want, then I get the impression the DP gave him some more lip, which set him off again. Hence the rant seems rather long, but one could argue it's really two rants.

Oh well. I just hope the movie is good.
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post #118 of 237
2/5/09 at 10:51am

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I am sure scenes like these routinely occur at informal work places (construction site, warehouses, restaurant kitchens, and yes, movie sets), and at quite a few formal ones. For example I would imagine that in a highly competitive environment replete with types As, like Wall St, some mid-level manager chewed down his secretary today in a similar fashion.

Celebrities do not have the monopoly of irascibility.

--
H
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post #119 of 237
2/5/09 at 11:01am

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Originally Posted by Michael Reuben
If the OP wants his title changed, he can ask for it. I don't edit people's posts for typos, and I take the same approach to titles, except when asked.

Jeff will cope. He's a grown-up.

Yes, much like Mr. Bale, I adhere to the old adage "The show must go on."
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post #120 of 237
2/5/09 at 11:12am

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Originally Posted by Holadem
I am sure scenes like routine take place at informal work places (construction site, warehouses, restaurant kitchens, and yes, movie sets), and at quite a few formal ones. For example I would imagine that in a highly competitive environment replete with types As, like Wall St, some mid-level manager chewed down his secretary today in a similar fashion.

Celebrities do not have the monopoly of irascibility.

--
H

As a definite Type A in a stressful job, I can easily admit to a couple of these tirades myself. But I always aim up, not down. Managers need to be taken down a peg when their egos get bigger than their brains and they start hurting the team. Underlings deserve to be praised and rewarded, for they are the backbone of every organization. I was the bane of my manager's existence at my last place (except when he actually needed something done), but I treated every admin as if they were gold, simply because I depended on them so much. Aiming up can be constructive and useful, aiming down just means you are a bastard.

As to this particular meltdown; Bale is the talent, and someone who thought he was in charge was more worried about his lights than the "big picture" (pun intended). You can criticize his language (although I wouldn't), but if the DP did violate well known etiquette multiple times, well then you can't really decry the complaints that lay between Bale's F-bombs.
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