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post #31 of 73
2/1/09 at 9:10am
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Re: Samsung HL67A750 - can I really abuse this TV?

If I do get this 67" beast into my home, I think my viewing distance will be 9 feet instead of 10 feet due to its depth, and the way my table is situated. Whoa!
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post #32 of 73
2/1/09 at 11:32am

Re: Samsung HL67A750 - can I really abuse this TV?

We plan to be 9-to-9.5ft eyes-to-screen for the most part -- we'll be rearranging the room (and also not set on the stand yet), so not too sure at the moment. Yeah, I had also considered the 67" -- partly because the frame might be sturdier -- but decided 61" should work fine for us and didn't want to spend the extra ~$400 for it. Also, not too sure we can fit the 67" in our relatively tight space anyway.

_Man_
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post #33 of 73
2/1/09 at 12:34pm

Re: Samsung HL67A750 - can I really abuse this TV?

I am sitting much closer than 9' right now (as I post this) and it's razor sharp. I've stood up by the screen when in PC monitor mode to see where detail extinction occurs And I can get as close as 3' and it still looks great.

My seating locations are around the room, anywhere from 6' to 13' and it just seems to work great in my room.

Man,

Congrats on your purchase! Keep us posted when the set arrives.

As for stands, stick with something in the 18-24" range. That will get it in the sweet spot for off angle viewing and you won't have an issue with any sort of darkening due to off angle. This set has issues with horizontal off angles more so than vertical off angle IMHO. With that said, I don't watch TV on the floor or the ceiling and I've not experienced any issues with poor angle performance.
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post #34 of 73
2/1/09 at 12:52pm

Re: Samsung HL67A750 - can I really abuse this TV?

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Originally Posted by Brett DiMichele
I am sitting much closer than 9' right now (as I post this) and it's razor sharp. I've stood up by the screen when in PC monitor mode to see where detail extinction occurs And I can get as close as 3' and it still looks great.

My seating locations are around the room, anywhere from 6' to 13' and it just seems to work great in my room.

Man,

Congrats on your purchase! Keep us posted when the set arrives.

As for stands, stick with something in the 18-24" range. That will get it in the sweet spot for off angle viewing and you won't have an issue with any sort of darkening due to off angle. This set has issues with horizontal off angles more so than vertical off angle IMHO. With that said, I don't watch TV on the floor or the ceiling and I've not experienced any issues with poor angle performance.

Thanks for the congrats, y'all, and the additional tips.

I've actually seen the 61" in action at a local CC last summer, so I have a pretty good idea what to expect w/ the off-angle viewing -- and that should not be a problem for us. Our sofa will probably actually be ~7.5ft away from the screen, but once we settle in to watch something, our eyes will be more like 9-9.5ft away.

And I'm currently considering this stand:

Bell'O PVS-4215HG Audio/video stand for TVs up to 46" at Crutchfield.com

It's not advertised to handle such a big display (probably mainly because they expected a heavy flat panel, if bigger), but the specs seem just fine for the 61". It does mean the display will be recessed ~1/2 ft into the stand, but should probably work just fine for us. I'm also thinking maybe I'll want to rig some DIY posts to provide extra support to the RPTV's frame on both sides, if sagging is really an issue (and would cause geometry/convergence problems). My old Panny RPTV's frame also sag a bit on the sides though I never bothered to do anything about that.

_Man_
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post #35 of 73
2/1/09 at 1:49pm

Re: Samsung HL67A750 - can I really abuse this TV?

If you're still looking for a TV stand, tvstands.com is a good site.
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post #36 of 73
2/1/09 at 2:48pm

Re: Samsung HL67A750 - can I really abuse this TV?

Hogie,

Yes TVstands.com is amazing... Some of those stands are, umm, OUCH! Way more than the TV!

I was lucky when I got my 67 at Circus City they had a nice Bell'o stand that was just a hair wider than the tv (not easy to get one wider than a 67 but it was a requirement of mine) and the stand was $500 and they misquoted me and I got it new in the box for $300
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post #37 of 73
2/1/09 at 3:29pm

Re: Samsung HL67A750 - can I really abuse this TV?

Very fun! Let us know all about it, once setup.
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post #38 of 73
2/2/09 at 9:58pm

Re: Samsung HL67A750 - can I really abuse this TV?

BTW, I decided to move over to this other old thread instead so as not to continue hijacking this thread since this was originally about a different model than the one I bought -- and it was mainly about "abuse", not display stands and such...

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/...ml#post3502634

Hmmm... On 2nd thought, maybe I shoulda just started a new thread (re: display stands, maybe even in a different forum section?) instead.

_Man_
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post #39 of 73
3/7/09 at 5:46pm
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Re: Samsung HL67A750 - can I really abuse this TV?

Well, I pulled the trigger on a display model at Best Buys this evening and finally bought one of these HL67A750 TV sets.

Best Buy is clearing them out, and their clearance price is $1299.99 (if you find one in the store, you may have to end up talking to the manager to get the price). I ended up getting the 4 year warranty on it, since the combined price including tax was still lower than my target price of $1700 (I've been waiting for Fry's to lower their price on this set to that $1700 price before taxes for the past month, ever since Super Bowl week). Plus I rationalized that since the LED engine is rated for a very long life, I wasn't worried about the display set being run 12 hours/day, since I wanted this particular model so I could also abuse it if I wanted to do so.

Oh, also got lucky since there's free delivery for TV over $999.99 this week, that was another $69.99 savings. Woo Hoo!

If the set dies within 4 years, I'll have some warranty credit to pick a new TV set, and hopefully by then, the prices will come down even more for comparable picture quality vs. size.

Now I just have to wait for the Tuesday delivery of the TV set...
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post #40 of 73
3/7/09 at 6:42pm

Re: Samsung HL67A750 - can I really abuse this TV?

That's a great price for the set, Patrick. I paid $2000 back in September. Enjoy your new TV... we've certainly enjoyed ours.
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post #41 of 73
3/8/09 at 12:37am

Re: Samsung HL67A750 - can I really abuse this TV?

Congrats, Pat!

I'm sure you're dying to get it in your house and start enjoying some HDM, etc. on a big screen again. It's been almost 2.5 months now, hasn't it?

We're certainly enjoying ours (61" version) for the past month.

_Man_
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post #42 of 73
3/8/09 at 3:31pm
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The only good thing about daylight savings time going into effect this weekend is that it chops off an hour off my waiting time...
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post #43 of 73
3/8/09 at 6:11pm

Re: Samsung HL67A750 - can I really abuse this TV?

Good TV, great price!
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post #44 of 73
3/9/09 at 7:18am

Re: Samsung HL67A750 - can I really abuse this TV?

That's an incredible deal for the 67"....major kudos to you. I'm looking to get the 61" in several weeks online if there's any left by that time. I'll probably be paying in the $1500 range shipped so that highlights your incredible deal. Did they offer you the set for $1299 without the extended warranty?
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post #45 of 73
3/9/09 at 12:07pm
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Re: Samsung HL67A750 - can I really abuse this TV?

I think if I pressed the issue, I can simply get a refund on the warranty by going to customer service because they don't want that TV set back in their store.
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post #46 of 73
3/9/09 at 1:36pm

Re: Samsung HL67A750 - can I really abuse this TV?

Thanks for the info. I had to do a doubletake when I saw what you paid. I don't have enough money right now for the 61"(after spending the $$$ on the Marantz SR5002 AVR,Panny BD-35 BR, and the pair of "Famous Maker"(aka Atlantic Tech) 10" subs from PE.

So, I'm sitting here playing the race/waiting game for the next 2-3 weeks hoping I can still find the set when I'm ready to make my move. It's driving me crazy since it's the set that I've had my heart set on for the last two months. It would fit like a glove between the two windows in my dedicated HT.
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post #47 of 73
3/9/09 at 4:54pm
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Definitely just lucky with my timing (but I've been actively looking for deals to materialize on this particular set), plus my insurance claim is coming through this week, so I don't mind spending a little bit more on the warranty portion of the purchase now.
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post #48 of 73
3/10/09 at 9:33am

Re: Samsung HL67A750 - can I really abuse this TV?

If I don't go crazy over the next 2-3 weeks it will be a miracle

We were walking around BB last night and we noticed they had the Samsung PN50A450 (50" 720p plasma) on clearance for $1000. Of course, that doesn't include sales tax which would bring it up to $1070 in the "great" state of NJ. I checked online last night and found that the HD store was selling it for $958 shipped.

While a 50" 720p(although I'm reading where it's resolution is even higher than that) set really isn't what I'm looking for I have to say the picture on that unit looked pretty darn good in the store. The wife and I looked at the 46"-50" plasma and LCD sets(most were 1080p) around it and it more than held it's own.

Do I wait another 2-3 weeks for the Sammy 61" DLP (and pray I can still find it) or do I pick up this 50" Sammy plasma as a quick fix and eventually move it downstairs to our living room when the eight year old Toshiba 50H81 RPTV gives up the ghost? Of course, if I go with this plasma set right now I'm probably pretty much screwed out of ever having the chance to snag the 61" DLP while they're still available. Or do I just forget about the DLP and get a 58" plasma or LCD at Xmas when my wife gets her nice bonus?

Like I said, I'm driving myself nuts
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post #49 of 73
3/10/09 at 9:51am
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I'd wait it out because the plasma option is always going to be there, so take your time, and then pounce when the opportunity presents itself.
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post #50 of 73
3/10/09 at 10:08am

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Thanks for the advice. I was leaning that way anyway(based on the same thought process) and I've had my heart set on the 61" Sammy DLP for so long that I'd probably kick myself a month from now if I pull the trigger on the 50" plasma in a day or two. I don't think I could go wrong either way as the wife and I were impressed with the Sammy 50" plasma. For less than $960 shipped it has an impressive picture...and it would be a perfect fit in our LR entertainment center.

I just won't accept anything smaller than 58" in my dedicated upstairs HT(our daughter's old bedroom) at this point....just keeping my fingers crossed the next 2-3 weeks for the 61" to still be available.
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post #51 of 73
3/10/09 at 11:29am
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Woo hoo! The TV just got delivered, and it looks fine from 20 feet away (as well as 9 feet away - almost too much, but that's a good problem to have). It also survived the trip as well without much wear-n-tear (as far as I can tell on a cursory view).
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post #52 of 73
3/10/09 at 7:25pm

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Congrats again, Pat! Have a blast! I guess we probably won't see too much of you around here for the next few days, if not longer.

Kevin,

Yes, definitely hold out for more/better (or better pricing). Who knows? At the rate things are going due to the economic downturn, you might even be able to buy the Sammy 58" plasma for just a tad more than the current going rate of the 61" LED DLP. I just noticed that Crutchfield has slashed pricing for the 58" plasma down to $1999 shipped(!). I wouldn't have bet on that back last summer when I debated it (and it was still easily/consistently over $2500 until just a couple months ago). But now, who knows?

Of course, if you get such a huge plasma, there's the concern about power consumption. However, if you're not running it 8-to-10 hours per day everyday as your regular TV, but use it mainly for movies and maybe some sports, then the power issue probably is no big deal at all. Don't know what your electricity costs are in NJ(?), but in the NYC area, Con Ed seems to be charging an arm and a leg (after fees/taxes), so the costs do add up noticeably here, which was part of the reason I decided not to consider waiting longer for a big plasma -- we use our big set for pretty much all purposes (in our livingroom).

_Man_
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post #53 of 73
3/10/09 at 11:11pm

Re: Samsung HL67A750 - can I really abuse this TV?

Man,

Thanks for info and advice. I'm not really a big TV junkie. I work swing shift(5pm-1am) and I rarely watch TV during the day. My wife uses our eight year old Tosh 50H81 RPTV much more than I do.

I mainly watch sports, football in particular, so that and the occasional BR or DVD will comprise most of it's use.

$1999 for the Sammy 58" plasma? Whoa!

Pat,

Give us tour take on the set after a couple of days. Congrats!
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post #54 of 73
3/11/09 at 12:44pm

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Looks like OneCall also knocked the Sammy 58" plasma down to $1999 shipped -- and Amazon is not far behind (plus also has an open box unit for less).

Maybe they're starting to clear them all out much like was done w/ the LED DLPs before.

_Man_
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post #55 of 73
3/14/09 at 10:26pm
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If you live by a Fry's, they are now selling the 67" for $1699.99, and the 61" for $1299.99.

Here are some screenshots. I did a little bit of gamma correction due to the trickiness of taking shots of the TV screen, and then resized them. These were shots of shows that came from my HD DVR:

This is my old plasma set (50" Panasonic):


These are from the new 67" TV. As you can tell, I had to raise the center channel speaker about 8" from its initial height, and it's about 10" wider. Much easier to watch TV while surfing on the PC:










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post #56 of 73
3/16/09 at 11:46am

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I live in NJ so Fry's really isn't a viable option...particularly after reading the less than stellar reviews about Fry's.com.

I'm really want to kick myself. I kinda decided to forget about the Sammy 61" DLP and just get the aforementioned Samsung PN50A450 50" plasma right now to hold me over until X-mas in my new dedicated HT. At that point I would throw it downstairs in our living room and get a 58" plasma to take its place.

Sears had a killer deal on the PN50A450 in yesterday's flyer....only $799 which was $200 cheaper than last week's price at BB and $158 cheaper than HD.com. I didn't see it until the evening and I've been checking around today....it's gone....grrrrrrr.

It seems like every TV I set my sights on is in high demand and hard as hell to find.
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post #57 of 73
3/17/09 at 8:26am

Re: Samsung HL67A750 - can I really abuse this TV?

Great pics Patrick...Love the quality
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post #58 of 73
3/17/09 at 5:17pm

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So how are you liking the new TV so far, Pat?

_Man_
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post #59 of 73
3/17/09 at 9:25pm
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Re: Samsung HL67A750 - can I really abuse this TV?

I've had it for a week now, and have been enjoying it quite a bit. I'm still using only component 1080i video (DVR and HD DVD), waiting for some HDMI cables to show up so I can check out the 1080p video through HDMI. Finally got my Samsung remote control off Ebay yesterday, so now I have all the buttons at my disposal (my cheap universal remote was somewhat limited in what I could do to change settings).

I do think it's best to watch this sized set from about 12 feet away or further, but that's probably because I've been mainly watching my compressed Comcast HD feed via DVR. But no complaints so far.
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post #60 of 73
3/18/09 at 4:44am

Re: Samsung HL67A750 - can I really abuse this TV?

Patrick,

I highly recommend a Harmony universal remote to go with your new setup. You will quickly retire all your component remotes to a shelf or drawer, to never be used again.

We sit about 12 feet from our 67-inch model, and I could see moving a foot or two closer if possible (it's not, due to our room layout), but that's about it.
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