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The Bugs Bunny/Looney Tunes Comedy Hour DVD news: Saturday Morning Cartoons - 1960's Vol. 1 and 1970's Vol. 1 | TVShowsOnDVD.com

I would prefer a complete Bugs Bunny Show set but perhaps that will come later. I wonder if the Bugs Bunny Shows included will all be in color or will some of it be in B&W like on the Looney Tunes sets.
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That looks like a very nice collection. I watched so many of those back in the 1960s and 1970s. And I think the purchase price is quite good.
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How can they leave off the first episode of the Banana Splits? That's essential '60s. It'd be like a British Invasion CD collection without the Beatles.
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At least the 70s put in both Laff-a-Lympics and The Funky Phantom- two childhood faves not yet on disc! I'm also looking forward to seeing the Chan series- it was possibly the first time an Asian actor played the sleuth (here, it's Keye Luke, who played Number One Son in some of the feature films). Also, will the Magilla Gorilla theme song be included in the 60s set? I understand it wasn't used for the season DVD set (why?).
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I'll probably get the Sixties set just to have Quick Draw McGraw in ANY form, not to mention Wally Gator, Secret Squirrel, etc. And glad to get REAL network "Bugs Bunny Show" and "Porky Pig Show" presentations

But I will hate to be forced to double-dip on Top Cat, Space Ghost, and The Jetsons. And I don't care at all about Marine Boy. Not sure WHAT's in that "Tom and Jerry Show"! Any idea?

Much easier to bypass the Seventies set, as I already have the Looney Tunes, Jetsons and Flintstones -- and care about nothing else.

At least WB is being creative, if nothing else.
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I like some of the work from the 1970s, but not as much as the 1960s. And since I do own much of this material already, I will need to be choosy with what I purchase. But I do like the representative sampling.
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Originally Posted by Charles Ellis
At least the 70s put in both Laff-a-Lympics and The Funky Phantom- two childhood faves not yet on disc! I'm also looking forward to seeing the Chan series- it was possibly the first time an Asian actor played the sleuth (here, it's Keye Luke, who played Number One Son in some of the feature films).

The first actor to play Chan in a movie was George Kuwa in "The House Without A Key." While he was Asian, he was born in Japan. I'm going to guess that some Chinese people consider that as offensive as Charlie Chan played by a Swede.
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Wow! I can't wait. These look like great sets!
Maybe they'll do 50s and 80s sets later-on.

Even though I am a completist and like to have complete seasons, it does get a little tiring watching 5 episodes of Magilla Gorilla in a row, and we all know that there are a lot of shows that will never see full season releases. So I think a collection like this is a great idea.
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I will pick up both of these sets.

I am surprised that the Filmation Tarzan is included. If Warner Brothers has the rights to this series, I am surprised that a Tarzan complete series set has never been released on DVD.

I hope this also precedes a Bugs Bunny Show set that includes all of the animation directed specifically for the TV show by Friz Freleng, Chuck Jones, and Robert McKimson.
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Now if only The Impossibles and The Super Six could one day make their way to DVD....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NnGf...eature=related

I might even spring for The Mighty Heroes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72rYHuWidSM

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Too bad there is no Superman 1960's show ( with a Superboy cartoon included)
and no Superfriends show in the 1970's set.
Tired of hearing about the lawsuit/ rights issue with Superboy. DC reprints some Superboy comics in its Showcase collections. As long as they don't call the set, Superboy ,I think they could include the cartoon.
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While these do look like good sets and I will probably purchase them I have to cast my vote for these as dissapointments because there are many shows in here that I have been waiting for complete releases and this more or less signals that complete series sets will not be coming on the shows not already out that are included here.
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I will pick up both of these sets.

I am surprised that the Filmation Tarzan is included. If Warner Brothers has the rights to this series, I am surprised that a Tarzan complete series set has never been released on DVD.

I hope this also precedes a Bugs Bunny Show set that includes all of the animation directed specifically for the TV show by Friz Freleng, Chuck Jones, and Robert McKimson.

The TARZAN inclusion really caught my eye also. That series is part of my holy trinity of 1970s Saturday morning cartoons (with HONG KONG PHOOEY and CHALLENGE OF THE SUPER FRIENDS). Maybe sales of this set will dictate an eventual season release? I sure hope so. (Although its been ages since I've seen it to see if it still holds up to my warm nostalgic memories of it.) I've always been tempted by those bootlegs at comic book conventions.

I don't mind the double-dipping of TOP CAT and SPACE GHOST on the 1960s set, if it means I'm able to own episodes SECRET SQUIRREL and QUICKDRAW MCGRAW on dvd. However I'd much rather they included HERCULOIDS instead of MARINE BOY(?).

Still these sets sound like a cool concept (at least from a potential first viewing), but if this is supposed to replicate a true representation of Saturday Morning viewing, does this mean that the BUGS BUNNY/ROADRUNNER SHOW cartoons will be the non-violent edits?
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Still these sets sound like a cool concept (at least from a potential first viewing), but if this is supposed to replicate a true representation of Saturday Morning viewing, does this mean that the BUGS BUNNY/ROADRUNNER SHOW cartoons will be the non-violent edits?

There is such a thing as too much authenticity, isn't there? Although looking at the WB shorts included, I do not think there were any edits to these particular shorts, other than the title card and music inserted in place of the original theatrical credits, and the removal of the "That's All Folks" at the end of each cartoon.

I share your hopes of a complete series set for Tarzan. I resent the fact that the only way to see these cartoons is to buy bootlegs because the rights holder is not meeting the market demand.
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A friend believes that the Tom and Jerry content on the Sixties Set to be from the seventies made-for-TV version! I was hoping for a reconstruction of the '60s TOM AND JERRY SHOW with two T&J's and another unrelated MGM cartoon in between, and an occasional Chuck Jones era bumper. I fear, though, he may be correct because the titles are unfamiliar to me.

The inclusion of MARINE BOY is most unusual! I’m not certain if it WAS a Sat AM show (Can anyone confirm or deny?) -- but neither was WALLY GATOR. QUICK DRAW McGRAW actually WAS, for a brief period, on CBS Sat AM, having moved out of early evening syndication -- and replaced (at least here in NYC) by WOODY WOODPECKER.

But most puzzling is that I don't THINK (though I could be wrong) that MB was a WB or WB owned or acquired show!!! An anime show will seem jarringly out of place in that mix. Why not just select another H-B hero-action show that they already control the rights to like Moby Dick and The Mighty Mightor, The Herculoids, or Frankenstein Jr. THAT would certainly be more representative of sixties Sat AM than Marine Boy!

There's JUST ENOUGH in the Sixties Volume to make it worth buying. I really want the network BUGS BUNNY and PORKY PIG SHOWS! And the non-double-dip H-B stuff. Unfortunately, there's also too much I either ALREADY HAVE, or don't want to make this the true joy that it could have been!
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I am so in, just to get an episode of Tarzan!

I used to watch Marine Boy in the 70s. I knew it was made in the 60s...but i didnt think it ran on Saturday morning either?
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be nice if they'd put vintage toy and cereal ads in between the show to give it a proper Saturday morning feel
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I'm curious as to how the video will be on the HB shows that they said were rough and thereby preventing their release on dvd at the time.
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I'm curious as to how the video will be on the HB shows that they said were rough and thereby preventing their release on dvd at the time.

I have a theory on this…

About 2005, both QUICK DRAW McGRAW and WALLY GATOR were announced as upcoming releases by WHV.

Then, they were withdrawn. Among the reasons given were issues with the source material.

Both the Quick Draw and Wally cartoons listed for this set were VERY EARLY IN THE RUN. First and second installments, very likely. Thus, I believe that these particular cartoons WERE “upgraded” for DVD (…for potential Volume Ones of each series) before the series were nixed by WHV.

As for the BUGS BUNNY and PORKY PIG SHOWS… I’m betting these were potential candidates for Extras in LOONEY TUNES GOLDEN COLLECTION Volume Seven, (…or left off of Volume 6) before that series was officially ended.

Thus, this becomes a catch-all for double-dips and other odds-and-ends that may exist without a home. Still, I like the idea! Nice “out of the box” thinking on WHV’s part.

…At least that’s MY theory! Any others?
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Kudos to Warner Bros. for such a clever idea! I'm in for the 70's collection, mainly for a chance to revisit Laff-a-Lympics, Batman/Tarzan, and the Flintstones Comedy Hour, all of which I have very fond memories of and never expected to see the light of day (hopefully the original intros are included). I would have liked to see Dynomutt included, but if these sell well, you can bet other collections will be on the way.
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A friend believes that the Tom and Jerry content on the Sixties Set to be from the seventies made-for-TV version!

Count me in line for that! The 1975 edition of T&J finally makes its debut on home video! (I agree its inclusion on the 1960s DVD is a trifle out of place, though...)

I've definitely set my DVD dial for a while!

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Saturday mornings are such a let down since all the networks have gone with running their news shows. Even the series that get run appear to be cable retreads. The stuff on Nick and Cartoon Network are their usual suspects that run all week long.

Hopefully this won't be a culture shock to today's youth.
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I would definitely be interested to know if certain titles listed -- Atom Ant, Quick Draw McGraw, Magilla Gorilla -- represent the original show format (with three separate cartoons featuring different characters), and the show openings, closings and interstitials. If so, this is an opportunity to make good on the Magilla Gorilla show opening and closing missing from the "complete series" set.

The trouble with shows like this is:

(1) All the elements are archived separately (according to someone familiar with the WB archives).

(2) To reassemble them, it would take someone familiar with how the shows originally ran -- or access to some kind of records of same. This situation has the annoying result of, say for instance, the "Huckleberry Hound" show running on Cartoon Network with two or three Huckleberry Hound cartoons and one Quick Draw McGraw. There are plenty of opportunities to screw this up (especially if Earl Kress isn't involved) but I'm gonna be optimistic.

Re Tom & Jerry -- has anyone "in the know" said for sure whether this is the 1960s or 1970s Tom & Jerry? (Either way, it would be cool to see the original show openings, closings and interstitials if they can be found. I'm not sure the 1975 Tom & Jerry/Grape Ape and/or Mumbly open/close have ever resurfaced -- I'm sure AH3 would know. I know the syndicated revised "Tom & Jerry Show" intro and close have been seen from time to time, but that's not how it originally was.)

I'm a little bummed that they feel a need to "double dip" with episodes of shows already out on DVD rather than stuff yet to be released at all, but beggers can't be choosers, I guess.
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Have they ever turned up complete wrap around elements for the BUGS BUNNY show? Even in B&W?
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Have they ever turned up complete wrap around elements for the BUGS BUNNY show? Even in B&W?

Apparently, B&W negatives do exist for all 52 of the original Season 1 and Season 2 shows, per Jerry Beck:

CARTOON RESEARCH FAQ-1

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Originally Posted by Jerry Beck
Matthew Hunter also recently asked:
I recently acquired copies of several vintage Bugs Bunny shows, each featuring the original ads and in black and white. However, I have seen some footage from this series in color, and even a color chart in an animation book. Obviously, the prints available now are old TV prints from station that didn't feature color at the time, I guess...because wasn't the "Bugs Bunny Show" produced in color? Do you know a good source for digging up some more of these, color or B/W?

No.

THE BUGS BUNNY SHOW (1960-62), the original 52 episodes, are the rarest of all the things listed in my book LOONEY TUNES & MERRIE MELODIES: A COMPLETE ILLUSTRATED GUIDE TO THE WARNER BROS. CARTOONS (co-written with Will Friedwald).
Like THE ADVENTURES OF THE ROAD RUNNER (which was dug up & patched together for my TOONHEADS: THE LOST CARTOONS special), Warner Bros. Animation chopped up the original negatives for the later Saturday morning BUGS BUNNY ROAD RUNNER SHOW broadcasts and subsequent Saturday Morning incarnations (of over 35 years!).
Since the show never went off network broadcast, and never sold in syndication,16mm prints of complete episodes, in color, were never struck. The complete prints that are around (in film collectors circles) are mainly black & white, created, as you point out, for distribution to local stations broadcasting in black & white in 1960-62.
Yes, THE BUGS BUNNY SHOW was produced in color. The few color prints I've ever seen are from the later 1960s reruns.
For years Warner Bros. has claimed that the complete original shows do not exist. I know two things, in all my years of research: that Warner Bros. does have black & white negatives of the complete shows - and that color negs may exist in Europe. Until Warner Bros. (or Cartoon Network) decide to revive these classic shows (with fresh bridging animation by Chuck Jones, Friz Freleng and Robert McKimson, voices by Mel Blanc, and additional classic animation footage of their famous characters including the Tasmanian Devil), we will be deprived of these historic episodes.
That the black & white negs exist, it would be a simple (but costly) matter to computer colorize the bridging material and completely restore them.
Recently, due to my involvement with the LOONEY TUNES GOLDEN COLLECTION DVD, I was able to dig out one episode - A STAR IS BORED - and cobble together the existing original materials (black & white & color) to recreate a sample of the bridging material. I hope to convince Warner Bros. to someday restore the entire series.
Researching those shows for my LOONEY TUNES book was the hardest thing I ever had to do! Sorry Matthew, I don't know a source for viewing THE BUGS BUNNY SHOW. I've been trying to convince anyone who'd listen for the last 15 years, that these shows are an endangered spieces!

Update: I've begun working with Warner Home Video to restore the bridging material for the BUGS BUNNY SHOW for their dvd series THE LOONEY TUNES GOLDEN COLLECTION. One set of bridges appear on each volume.

Note, however: Teletoon in Canada has aired some of the WB television shows, notably the old Road Runner show in its original format, with the opening, closing, interstitial clips, and the original versions of the short TV titles with the original audio (a short clip of "The Merry-Go-Round Broke Down" from the late 1960s WB cartoons). I'm told at some point in the past, The Bugs Bunny Show was airing on Canadian TV well past the point where those segments would have been chopped up in the US. But if anyone would know, it would be Jerry Beck...and if that material was obtainable, it would have made the DVD collections.
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Well it's encouraging to see the image of Squiddly Diddly being used on the press advert as that was originally a segment of The Atom Ant Show, which bodes well for the possibility of complete episodes.
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Well it's encouraging to see the image of Squiddly Diddly being used on the press advert as that was originally a segment of The Atom Ant Show, which bodes well for the possibility of complete episodes.

Complete, three-cartoon full shows (with opening and closing credits) for QuickDraw McGraw, Magilla Gorilla, Atom Ant, and Secret Squirrel WOULD be most representative of the true Sat AM experience that WB is trying to sell us…

…I’m just not completely confident in their ability to fully realize this.

Either way, I’ll be there for at least the Sixties volume. Perhaps it may presently surprise me. If not, at least it may encourage them to do more and better next time.
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You know what would be cool, even if it would never happen. They should add a few "In the News" and "Time for Timer" segments to really give it that 70s Sat. morning vibe!

I remember a Star Trek animated PSA about polution as well.
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Originally Posted by Mark Y
Apparently, B&W negatives do exist for all 52 of the original Season 1 and Season 2 shows, per Jerry Beck:

CARTOON RESEARCH FAQ-1



Note, however: Teletoon in Canada has aired some of the WB television shows, notably the old Road Runner show in its original format, with the opening, closing, interstitial clips, and the original versions of the short TV titles with the original audio (a short clip of "The Merry-Go-Round Broke Down" from the late 1960s WB cartoons). I'm told at some point in the past, The Bugs Bunny Show was airing on Canadian TV well past the point where those segments would have been chopped up in the US. But if anyone would know, it would be Jerry Beck...and if that material was obtainable, it would have made the DVD collections.

Hmmm....interesting!
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Originally Posted by Mark Y
Teletoon in Canada has aired some of the WB television shows, notably the old Road Runner show in its original format, with the opening, closing, interstitial clips, and the original versions of the short TV titles with the original audio (a short clip of "The Merry-Go-Round Broke Down" from the late 1960s WB cartoons). I'm told at some point in the past, The Bugs Bunny Show was airing on Canadian TV well past the point where those segments would have been chopped up in the US. But if anyone would know, it would be Jerry Beck...and if that material was obtainable, it would have made the DVD collections.

The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation was airing color episodes of The Bugs Bunny/Road Runner Hour at 5 p.m. every Saturday until the late 1970s. These episodes apparently had all of the bridging segments intact in color. It would not surprise me if these elements still exist at the CBC or with Teletoon and other Canadian networks. Wouldn't it be great if all of these episodes could be restored on DVD?
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