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The newest season of Biggest Loser starts January 6, 2009!

This has to be the quickest turn around season in the history of the show, as last season just ended a few weeks ago. I'm not complaining, as I love the show. Hopefully the ratings will continue to do well and they will keep making the show season after season.
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I look forward to this season!
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The biggest loser: Couples

The new season started last night and boy was it full of suprises. So far this is the heaviest season ever!

So far I like all of the contestants and I hope that we don't have a repeat of last years drama.

What did everyone else think?
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I enjoyed last nights episode. I too really hope we don't have a new Vicki/Heba meltdown like last time.

I can't believe that 19 year old weighed in at 454 pounds. That's just huge. He's got a long road ahead of him, but I think Jillian is going to beat a bunch of that weight off of him right away.

I thought sending 9 home was a little harsh to do right away. Hopefully it works out. I think the reason the show doesn't become dull is because it constantly tries to change things around. If it had the same formula all the time, I think they'd lose viewers.
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Last night was actually the first episode I ever saw.

And, I really enjoyed it.

I think I'll be watching next week.
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Matt: I also think Jillian is going to whip that kid into shape. I think it will be amazing to watch his process/progress.

I was a bit confused as to why they sent 9 home right away, but I do think it is a great way to switch things up season after season. I like that they change things up.

Did allison already have her baby?
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I was thinking maybe they broke up most of the groups to avoid the drama from last year. Now it's much more on losing the weight than anything else.
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Watched bits and pieces, not the entire show but may stick with this one.

The 454 lb. kid was definitely shocking. That's almost triple my current weight. Even at my worst, I wasn't even half his size.

When you say they dropped 9, does that mean a single person, as in contestant #9, or 9 people all at once?

I've always found it hard to watch because it's so annoying the way they drag out the show for two hours. I'll start recording it and could probably condense it to about 30 minutes.
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When you say they dropped 9, does that mean a single person, as in contestant #9, or 9 people all at once?

They dropped 9 contestants at once, which I found a bit extreme. It should be interesting to see if they can manage to lose the weight at home without any training.

I can't wait to see the next episode.
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You never know with this show - but in the past, we have seen what has happened to these early droppers - and they have brought back the top one or two of them to compete later in the competition. Most of the time, this becomes an us (people in the house) verses them (people re-joining) battle game. You never know what they are going to do this year that follows this pattern.

I find that it is now just too drawn out now to be worth watching, with the weigh-in's being especially painful. Weigh in person one, then person two - then preview of some big event in the weigh-in with close-ups of reaction shots (commercial break) - back from break - weigh in 1 person or perhaps two, then another commercial break....most of the time these big reaction shots are just teasers and there really isn't anything that big going on.

These past couple of seasons, it gets really annoying with the game play to the point of making me turn it off. Someone gets immunity somehow - then proceeds to drink and/or eat tons before their weigh in, so they have an advantage in a future weigh-in. Then there are those who are just trying their best every week - will hit a week where it just doesn’t come off - and then get voted off by the game players. This new season may be different, but I didn't watch the first show so I guess I won't know...
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Re: Biggest Loser - Season 7: Couples Discussion

Sorry that I have'nt given my comments so far this season. The premiere episode last week was a good one. I was dissapointed when it was revealed that all the contestants were not going to have the advantage of being able to be on the ranch for the entire season. However, this season and the previous were probably shot at similar times. Since the host Aly, who was very pregnant three weeks ago didnt look that pregnant last week - they were probably filmed around the same time the season 6 contestants were in New York. I could be wrong, but it's just a guess.

I'm definately rooting for the bigger kid to win the show. I see a lot of myself in him, as at my highest weight, I was only 40 or so lbs 'lighter' than he was.
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Ugh, can we merge the 2 BIGGEST LOSER threads?
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I really think that somehow Tara, who had immunity, did something, (like drink a lot of water just before), to where she only showed the 1 pound loss. Thus making the weight gain that much easier the next week. Either she thought it on her own, or someone told her to do it. As hard as she worked, and winning that challenge, it just doesn't seem likely she would have only lost 1 pound. Hardly anyone else had such a low number. Heck, even the people running the show could have told her to do that or even Jillian might have, knowing it would improve her odds the next week.
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Yep, I'm pretty sure she was up to something. I guess if you really want to stay, you have to pull out all the stops and use the tools you get to your advantage.

I was sorry to see Jerry leave so quickly, but it looks like he and his wife did a nice job continuing their weight loss. They were right though. The 19 year old definitely needs to be there more than he did.
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Outside of the Green (The models) and the Pink team this seems like such a nice group of contestants--especially when compared to last season's group.

I think the decision to send away nine of the players so early into the season is a shame. Erm, the show is called Biggest Loser: Couples!

As so many of us shave noted in prior threads, the show is motivational in allowing us to watch the changes the contestants make over such a short period through extreme dedicated exercise & diet techniques. The "game" part of the show is also interesting. So, by eliminating nine of the players right off the top seems to take away from the whole idea of the show.

I understand some of them (four, I guess) will be back. But what a shame contestants like Estella didn't really get a chance to feel the impact of the Ranch.

BTW, didn't Jerry look absolutely great in his clip at the end of the show? Talk about inspirational!

Allison had her baby just last week. She sure didn't look pregnant to me at the temptation (the $25,000 challenge)...but they were shooting her EXTREMELY tight at the weigh-ins...so I guess I was mistaken about her at the challenge!

And, meanwhile, the daughter on the pink team has gotten in a bit of trouble.
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From the thread above - it appears they will be bringing some of them back based on who is left in the house, and not strictly based on a challenge or weight lost during their time away...

" in a surprise twist; however, if her mother stays in the ranch for 30 days, she could be sent back to the show"
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They made it clear on the show. The nine go away...and whoever has a partner left after one month will be invited back into the game to re-couple.

It just sucks that we won't see their progress (or lack thereof) for that month AND...for those who don't come back (like Estella) it just sucks that she basically gets gypped out of the experience for the most part.
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Oh. And we mustn't forget Bob's meltdown this week. Pretty intense. But, to be fair, he couched it in terms of Joelle's lack of focus since she agreed to stay and work hard while her partner (who really wanted to stay) had to go home and hope that Joelle stays in the game to be able to come back.
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Yep, I don't like Joelle much. All thru the show, after the challenge, the way her attitude was, I kept saying, she should have just took the $25,000 and left.

So as of right now, it is possible for as many as 8 of the contestants who left to come back. Since there are still 4 from the 2 teams that did not send someone home. It is possible 3 of them could go and all the others could bring back those 8 partners.
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Originally Posted by Qui-Gon John
Since there are still 4 from the 2 teams that did not send someone home. It is possible 3 of them could go and all the others could bring back those 8 partners.

And while you never know how things are going to go, it really seems like black & brown (the two teams with all four players left) are pretty strong and have an awful lot of weight to lose. Them boys is big (along with orange!).

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And you know what...I would have been awfully tempted to take a quick $25k myself...but not after jumping thru hoops to get on the show AND begging to stay with my teammate (to whom I would have felt compelled to give half of the $25k).
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That's the thing.. take $25k seems a lot less when you divide by 2 and take out taxes. You've now just taken less then $7500 to look like a fool on TV.
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My wife couldn't believe it when she said you could buy an entire house in Michigan for $5000.
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I think some of you might have misunderstood my comment. I wasn't saying taking the $25K was the right thing to do. But for Joelle, the way she seems to have such a negative attitude, doesn't really seem to be trying, in her case, I was saying she might as well have just taken it and been done with it. To me it seems, yes she wants to lose the weight, but expects the weight-loss to be handed to her, as if she is owed it. Especially it would have been the smart thing if she'd have been eliminated, which nearly happened. Even most of the other contestants had negative comments regarding her. I think if it had been her and anyone else, Joelle would have definitely been voted off.

Also, I couldn't believe David (orange who left last week). He orders 2 hot dogs and fries and says guess I'm off to a good start. In any kind of weight-loss program I've ever used or heard of, hot dogs are a big no-no.
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Yep. Major kudos to the older couple who looked like they had done astonishing work at home. I'm reminded of "Biggest Loser Australia" where the people who go home can still compete and win the big prize (it's an alternate "big prize") for the contestant who loses the most, as opposed to the prize for "winner in the house".

They have three prizes:

"Winner of those in the final 3"
"Winner for most weight loss of those who went home"
"Overall winner"

I love that.

Anyway, the older couple really did a hell of a job so far.. the fact that he went home and stayed on it and lost 84 pounds.. incredible. They said (or I thought) his goal was to lose another 80.. I'm not sure if that's really reachable or even that desirable, but if he loses 84, that's pretty incredible, and if he ends up losing 100+, that is incredible.
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John: I understood your comments completely.

It IS a shame Joelle squeaked-by just atop the yellow line. Against either Jerry or Dan (orange team) she'd have gone home--hands down.

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Originally Posted by Qui-Gon John
Also, I couldn't believe David (orange who left last week). He orders 2 hot dogs and fries and says guess I'm off to a good start. In any kind of weight-loss program I've ever used or heard of, hot dogs are a big no-no.

Without a doubt. Most hot dog buns are completely non-nutritious made from enriched bleached flour. The hot dogs are made from high-fat meat and by-products. And then there's the condiments... Not much good for you there, either.

My wife and I have changed our eating habits drastically over the past year-and-a-half and we were both amazed--not only that he ordered that food--but thought he was making good choices. But, then again, look at the size of the family members that were sitting at the table with him!

And you kinda help make my point. Let's say Dan somehow doesn't make it past the month. That means David never gets back to the ranch. It would be a shame that he doesn't get to learn much from the trainers and nutritionists connected with the show (and medical personnel) about how to take care of himself.

MAYBE...that's what the producers want: to show a stark comparison about what Daniel is able to achieve on the ranch vs. what David goes through at home. Or, even maybe what Joelle does NOT accomplish at the ranch while her partner, Carla, works her butt off at home.

I just kinda wish they had stuck with the original concept. I know the creative forces always feel a need to keep things "fresh." But this is pretty severe.
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I swear this show has got to be fixed. Everyone has been saying and noticing how bad Joelle's attitude has been. Jillian's team asks Bob's team how they want them to vote, they say they will honor that since Bob's team did this for them last week. Then they all go and vote Damien off. I think it's because the people running the show did not want Joelle off. They want someone on there that everyone dislikes.
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I also think there is some monkey business going on with the so called voting.

That Joelle seems like she is going to snap at any moment. There is something not right with her. I guess the producers are wanting to capture her meltdown on tape.

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I thought it was interesting to see the training room in that one scene. It looked like almost everyone there had ice packs on them. I was wondering about that. These people haven't worked out in years and now they are working out hours a day. They had to be so stiff and in pain every day. I would like to know exactly what they do to the contestants to allow them to come back day after day and train.
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Well this show has just about lost my wife and I as viewers.
Thought it was a great concept when it first aired a few years back.
Now it has turned into a network ratings whore.
It really appears as if the producers have the real vote as to who stays or goes.
Although Damien did lose the least percentage of weight, at least his desire to be there was sincere and not just " la de da I'm on TV hear me whine".
I doubt there are many viewers who have any bit of confidence that Joelle can truly go very far in this.
We will give it another week or two to see how this pans out but I'm not interested in the whole game show/soap opera road this show is approaching.
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My wife and I are both really stumped by this season.

It seems like it should be a super enjoyable season because you've got some REALLY BIG people who also happen (for the most part) to be pretty likeable. Exceptions to the likeable part would be (in our opinion) Joelle and the green team (models).

But...instead of having a season driven by dramatic weight loss combined with the interplay between the contestants, the producers seem to be bending over backwards to create false drama--which just isn't necessary.

If the audience is willing to suffer through poorly-paced weekly two-hour programs to follow the adventures of these overweight individuals as they struggle to gain control over their weight and lives, there really is no need to tinker with the formula. And the ratings for the show seem that they have been pretty healthy.

Instead, we've gotten "surprise after surprise" this season which have included sending home nearly half the contestants at the very beginning of the game, sending away one of the trainers for most of an entire week (really a surprise that two of Bob's team fell below the yellow line, eh?!?), and other "surprises" which, frankly, are just getting in the way of enjoying the familiar formula which creates inspiration in the audience.

Why do I get the feeling that "Surprise!"--the contestants who were sent home will all be brought back in some other contrived twist before the game is over. If not, how completely unfair that Jerry & Damien's partners never got their time at the ranch. As it is, they are getting rooked out of a solid month of opportunity to lose weight and learn healthy habits at the ranch--if not completely screwed out of having that opportunity.

Having the players at home participate in the temptation challenge is, frankly, lame. We are getting very little insight into what's going on with the players at home. Outside of David's bad choices at that one meal with his family and an apparent aside during one of last night's yelling matches between Joelle & Carla that Carla hit up a McDonald's while at home there has been very little insight into the travails of those who were sent home So, what's the point?

If the point is to add extra pressure onto those contestants who stayed behind at the ranch that they "HAVE to get immunity in order to ensure (fill in the name here) can come back" it is, again, false pressure as the contestants should be motivated enough to keep bringing themselves back. In fact, I'd say the extra pressure of being responsible for the partner's future is not only unfair but potentially harmful to the contestant's own psyche of concentrating on their own goals and weight-loss program.

In fact, I think the over-stretched ambitions of the producers were made crystal clear when at last night's weigh-in Damien commented that he had had "a tough week" which resulted in his losing only 4 pounds. WHAT tough week? I didn't miss any of last night's episode yet have NO IDEA what he was talking about! Maybe I fell asleep at some point? And then Bob moans--correctly, I might add--about how he should have been with his team this week in order to be able to help his team cope with their difficulties (kinda like how we saw Jillian pull aside the yellow team member for a little therapeutic counseling).

Instead, Bob was shuffled off to Detroit to spend a day or so with his difficult contestant Joelle and her partner Carla--for another round of yelling and "drama." If I subscribed to John's theory about the show being "fixed," I'd swear it was set up for that situation to have happened. There was probably two days of travel and production set-up which yielded a couple of hours of gym time along with time at the dinner table and just enough time to sneak in the product placement for Yoplait yogurt.

While I realize this program is not about to be winning any Pultizer Prizes any time soon, it's still aggravating to this fan for producers to keep tinkering so dramatically with it's simple, yet successful, formula.
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That's interesting. I was composing my last post when both Scott & Kevin posted their messages.

The producers are screwing up this show...which, as I said earlier, has been extremely successful--DESPITE being a dreadfully-paced weekly two-hour effort. It's almost like they are determined to get themselves canceled somehow.

I am always going to give the benefit of the doubt to the producers that they are not outright impacting the outcomes of the show (who stays and who goes). By that I mean I don't think they rig the voting--although they did send home nearly half the contestants at the outset. But I am starting to wonder about how much"egging on" there might be by a producer, let's say, to advise Carla to down some pizza and cupcakes in order to get Bob in Detroit.

I hate to think I have that kind of inclination...but the show is leaving an awful lot of room for doubt.
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Did anyone notice that Daniel was absent from the temptation challenge? Did I miss something??
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