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Dolby True HD Track on Dark Knight?

post #1 of 23
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Can someone tell me how to get to the audio setup screen on the Dark Knight BluRay disk. Every time I hit the menu button is says this feature is disabled on this disk, and when I insert the disk it just auto plays the movie with the Dolby Digital track. I for the life of me can not figure out how to get to a menu screen on this BluRay disk.

BTW I have the BD35K blu Ray player w/ the Onkyo 606 receiver.. I have it set to Bitstreem and secondary audio to off. Whenever I insert a disk with DTS HD MA track it shows as DTS HD MA on the receiver so I know I have the player setup properly. But on this movie it just shows as DVD Dolby Digital.
post #2 of 23

Re: Dolby True HD Track on Dark Knight?

You have to bring up the pop-up menu after the movie starts and choose TrueHD...it defaults to DD.
post #3 of 23
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Re: Dolby True HD Track on Dark Knight?

Where is it on the Pop up menu I didn't see it there either... I only seen one option for audio, but it made no sense to me... I don't remember what it said, but it was something like button sound on or off or something like that.

btw thanks for the fast reply.
post #4 of 23

Re: Dolby True HD Track on Dark Knight?

Don't remember exactly where it is, but it's under the menu that includes subtitles also. "Languages", maybe? On these BD menus you sometimes have to explore a bit.
post #5 of 23
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Re: Dolby True HD Track on Dark Knight?

Thanks, I'll look into it.. Didn't think about looking under Languages... I was just a little confused about the whole misleading audio menu.
post #6 of 23

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Yeah I had the same problem. I went to the AUDIO menu, but it didn't have the choices, but it seems the audio format choices are in the LANGUAGES for most all BluRays I have. A bit confusing.
I guess there is a way of moving the onscreen menu from the bottom of the screen. I try to mute the sound until I have everything set up, but the MUTE onscreen indication is usually right over the audio choices! Oh Well...
post #7 of 23

Re: Dolby True HD Track on Dark Knight?

This is typical for WHV product. The audio options are always under the Languages section. This is the way WHV has done things since the DVD era.
post #8 of 23

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why not just press the "audio" button on the remote until it is truehd, usually the second track?

I'm sorry for this next comment but, is this really so hard to figure out?
I've always thought the audio options were simple enough to figure out.
post #9 of 23

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Originally Posted by TonyD
I'm sorry for this next comment but, is this really so hard to figure out?
I've always thought the audio options were simple enough to figure out.

When selecting between two different audio tracks of the same language requires accessing a menu labeled "languages," then yes, I think I understand how that could be difficult to figure out.

That you're used to Warner's poor menu labeling doesn't make the labeling any less poor.
post #10 of 23

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Originally Posted by cafink
When selecting between two different audio tracks of the same language requires accessing a menu labeled "languages," then yes, I think I understand how that could be difficult to figure out.
But not impossible. Just takes a little persistence and logic.
post #11 of 23

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Agreed, but neither should be necessary for doing something as simple as configuring the audio on a DVD or Blu-ray disc.
post #12 of 23
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Thanks for the help guys.. I would never have thought to look under languages.. I always thought that would be for closed captioning... god forbid that they would put audio options under the pop up menu for Audio.. If it's already there why not???
post #13 of 23

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Originally Posted by TonyD
why not just press the "audio" button on the remote until it is truehd, usually the second track?

This is correct. You don't need to bring up the menu. Simply go to track two on this disc with the audio button. the on-screen label will show it as the TrueHD track.
post #14 of 23

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Originally Posted by David Forbes
This is correct. You don't need to bring up the menu. Simply go to track two on this disc with the audio button. the on-screen label will show it as the TrueHD track.

Unfortunately for me, I'll need to muddle w/ the menu system going forward since my PS3's Nyko IR-to-USB solution doesn't provide an audio button/command. Ah well, that's better than to frequently hit the stop button by mistake (on my PS3 BT remote) and also not have just 1 remote for everything.

Like I said elsewhere, Warner should just simply find a way to default to the lossless track for those of us w/ the proper gear for that option, especially if they're gonna automatically start the movie immediately. There really should be no excuse for not doing this.

_Man_
post #15 of 23

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u guys don't realize this but panny's BD35k doesn't have an audio button!

u can only access it via the pop up menu. FYI =P.
post #16 of 23
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My remote has an Audio button.. I haven't tried to use it yet to see if it actually works or not.
post #17 of 23

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that button is for secondary audio. which is useless if u want to switch for primary audio.
post #18 of 23

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Originally Posted by JediFonger
that button is for secondary audio. which is useless if u want to switch for primary audio.

What button do you mean?

Every dvd player I've had allows me to press the audio button to cycle through all the audio tracks, including my PS3 blu-ray player.
And I just did it.
Cycled through all the soundtracks on 40 year old virgin.
post #19 of 23

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Originally Posted by JediFonger
that button is for secondary audio. which is useless if u want to switch for primary audio.

On my Sony 350 the audio button cycles through the various audio tracks. On TDK and other similarly mastered discs, the second audio track contains the TrueHD track. So hitting the audio button once switches to TrueHD.

Is it stupid of Warner to master it this way? Yes. But the audio button certainly is not useless if you have one on your remote.
post #20 of 23

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Originally Posted by JediFonger
that button is for secondary audio. which is useless if u want to switch for primary audio.
There's an "Audio" button also, just above the slow/search buttons. Is your remote different?
post #21 of 23

Re: Dolby True HD Track on Dark Knight?

hmmm, just tried it myself last night, i guess i must've missed that button. i expected the audio button to be huge... not hidden =P. sorry =P
post #22 of 23

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Well I've been "fighting" against Warner's ridiculous habbit of not including proper audio menus since I found out about it.

It's ridiculous.

Not only is it needlessly inconvenient, but it also distracts your attention away from the film AND causes a momentary audio drop-out while the sound track changes (audio dropouts are normally cause for a recall yet WB now require us to create our own sound glitches!)

And now, not surprisingly it seems there are large numbers of people who don't even know they're not listening to the HD track by default.

This is no longer funny, WB. Why can't you just do it "properly" like every other studio? Why do you have to be "clever"?

Anyway, my signature says it all.
post #23 of 23

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Originally Posted by John H Ross
Well I've been "fighting" against Warner's ridiculous habbit of not including proper audio menus since I found out about it.

It's ridiculous.

Not only is it needlessly inconvenient, but it also distracts your attention away from the film AND causes a momentary audio drop-out while the sound track changes (audio dropouts are normally cause for a recall yet WB now require us to create our own sound glitches!)

And now, not surprisingly it seems there are large numbers of people who don't even know they're not listening to the HD track by default.

This is no longer funny, WB. Why can't you just do it "properly" like every other studio? Why do you have to be "clever"?

Anyway, my signature says it all.


Someone pointed this out (elsewhere?) earlier, and maybe he/she was right. Maybe this whole issue is why some studios opted to go w/ DTS-HD/MA instead of Dolby TrueHD (or MPCM). DTS-HD/MA certainly simplifies the whole matter as long as players fully support it, which was not the case w/ some old players. Of course, there would still be the small issue that some folks never owned a sound system that could properly handle lossy DTS -- but maybe those folks would either be more willing to upgrade or simply not care (as long as they can get downmixed stereo or DPL).

_Man_
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