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post #151 of 170
4/27/09 at 11:51am

Re: FINALLY.....RHODA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've realized that I should stand corrected in my "remembering the scene where Rhoda calls Mary in the middle of the night" bit - the scene I remember seeing was not in the pilot, but was instead on episode 6, "Pop Goes The Question," and it IS intact on the DVD set.

So, chances are the pilot scene really hasn't been aired in a very long time. Sorry for the misinformation.

It's still a really fun set to watch.
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post #152 of 170
5/21/09 at 8:37pm

Re: FINALLY.....RHODA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love my Rhoda set. Yeah, the pic quality looks like crap in a lot of areas (it doesn't help that my new tv is super huge) but it's great just having these episodes to watch over and over again. What a great cast, and great writing.

The holiday episode looks especially rough, but it has a Christmas-decorated MTM tag at the end that I had never seen before. I wonder if this was one of the ones culled from a "private collector."
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post #153 of 170
10/8/09 at 2:36pm
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So there WILL be a Season 2. I was skeptical that there would be after the debacle with Season 1. Here's hoping they get it right and have all UNCUT eps this go round. This is my favorite 70s sitcom along with the Mary Tyler Moore Show.

Here's the announcement: http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Rhoda-Season-2/12787
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post #154 of 170
10/8/09 at 2:57pm
I would be right there for season 2... I loved this show on when I caught it on Nick at Nite. But, since there's no season 1 for me to buy, I don't have any reason to bother with season 2.
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post #155 of 170
10/8/09 at 5:26pm
Season 1 has been out for months.  Where have you been? Mars?  I will definitely get season 2.
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post #156 of 170
10/8/09 at 5:53pm
I believe he refers to the fact that a proper release of S1 is not out, which is my sentiments precisely on the subject.    Shout gets no business from me on this title because of that debacle.
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post #157 of 170
10/8/09 at 5:56pm
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On the Shout Factory Website they've already addressed the question likely on the minds of many as to whether or not this Season 2 release will have the same issues as Season 1 did. I'm encouraged by their response. Seems like they took the fan complaints to heart.

Here's a quote:

I can actually tell you all that we've pulled out ALL the stops to make sure we don't have the same problems as before.  I can go into more detail at a slightly later date, but trust me when I say that seasons one and two will be worlds apart.  You've spoken and we've listened.

Here's a link to the forum thread where the issue is raised and responded to by Shout Factory Staff:
http://www.shoutfactory.com/community/1992/thread.aspx
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post #158 of 170
10/8/09 at 6:32pm
When S1 of a show is ruined that makes all subsequent seasons a no-sale for me regardless of what they do with those years.    I never bought Cosby Show, never bought Too Close For Comfort and I'm not about to break that rule for this company.      If they fix S1 someday I'll have reason to reconsider, but we know that's not going to happen.
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post #159 of 170
10/8/09 at 6:43pm
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When S1 of a show is ruined that makes all subsequent seasons a no-sale for me regardless of what they do with those years.    I never bought Cosby Show, never bought Too Close For Comfort and I'm not about to break that rule for this company.      If they fix S1 someday I'll have reason to reconsider, but we know that's not going to happen.

Every episode of The Cosby Show is uncut in the complete season set, including all of Season 1.
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post #160 of 170
10/8/09 at 7:06pm
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On the Shout Factory Website they've already addressed the question likely on the minds of many as to whether or not this Season 2 release will have the same issues as Season 1 did. I'm encouraged by their response. Seems like they took the fan complaints to heart.

Here's a quote:

I can actually tell you all that we've pulled out ALL the stops to make sure we don't have the same problems as before.  I can go into more detail at a slightly later date, but trust me when I say that seasons one and two will be worlds apart.  You've spoken and we've listened.

Here's a link to the forum thread where the issue is raised and responded to by Shout Factory Staff:
http://www.shoutfactory.com/community/1992/thread.aspx

See, here's what I don't get... doesn't Shout (or any manufacturer, for that matter) learn from the past?

Every time we get a chopped up season 1, we bitch and moan and don't buy it. Then, for season 2, they "pull out all the stops" and the second season is "a world apart".

Do we have to do this dance every time? It always ends the same way. Season 1 is edited, people bitch and don't buy it, and when season 2 comes out, even though it's done correctly, many people still don't buy because they don't have season 1. Can't, for once, they just assume we're going to complain and not buy, and get season 1 right so we don't have to go through this damn dance EVERY. SINGLE. TIME?!?
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post #161 of 170
10/9/09 at 10:28am
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See, here's what I don't get... doesn't Shout (or any manufacturer, for that matter) learn from the past?

Every time we get a chopped up season 1, we bitch and moan and don't buy it. Then, for season 2, they "pull out all the stops" and the second season is "a world apart".

Do we have to do this dance every time? It always ends the same way. Season 1 is edited, people bitch and don't buy it, and when season 2 comes out, even though it's done correctly, many people still don't buy because they don't have season 1. Can't, for once, they just assume we're going to complain and not buy, and get season 1 right so we don't have to go through this damn dance EVERY. SINGLE. TIME?!?

 

I can (sort of) understand the folks at some of the bigger studios who focus more on getting a "product" out than worrying about meeting every desire of hard-core fans.  They're clueless and don't seem to understand that the hard-core fans are actually the ones who are willing to shell out the money for box sets.  I get that.

But Shout! Factory?  Don't they realize they built their reputation on high-quality offerings catered to the discerning fan?  Didn't they recognize the risk that a mediocre classic TV release would present?  I don't get that.
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post #162 of 170
10/9/09 at 11:47am
I agree with every word The Obsolete Man said, and I thank him for saying it.

You know what Einstein supposedly said about doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results ... 

Maybe Shout! thought "Rhoda" fans wouldn't notice ...

Hey, Shout! ... someone will ALWAYS notice!  Stop it already!
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post #163 of 170
10/9/09 at 6:26pm
Joe, I'm with you: Shane hit the nail on the head dead on.  I gave some slack early in the tv-on-dvd game, but by now every label has been hit with these problems and the predictable and inevitable backlash.  How long before they learn to do it right with Season One?  
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post #164 of 170
10/9/09 at 6:58pm
And to add to my last rant, I don't think we're being unreasonable. All most of us hardcore fans want out of any series is unedited, complete episodes. We've been very forgiving as far as picture quality goes, forgiving in cases of music rights... no one complained too badly about the Married With Children or Dawson's Creek theme song replacements, because we were informed that it was a 30 second theme song cut, or no episodes at all. Paramount's full scale stripping of popular music (Fugitive not included!) has been annoying, but, for the most part, we understand and accept it, because we all know by now that music rights suck.

But a series like Rhoda, or Father Knows Best, or Mr. Ed doesn't have those music problems that could lead to edits. And I don't think anyone is going to complain about the first box set taking a while longer if it is going to be complete. Hell, I'd rather have waited until October, had Rhoda tied into the Mary Tyler Moore show, and had a complete season 1 than to have to pass on a chopped season 1 in April and never buy a subsequent season because there's no season 1 I deem acceptable to buy.
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post #165 of 170
10/9/09 at 10:35pm
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Originally Posted by The Obsolete Man View Post
 but, for the most part, we understand and accept it, because we all know by now that music rights suck.
 
You should be ashamed of yourself for saying that. CBS/Paramount, more often than not, makes little to no effort securing music rights. The old Paramount regime, most of time did. Don't automatically assume that CBS/Paramount makes a legitimate effort to secure music rights when it's obvious that they don't.
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post #166 of 170
10/11/09 at 9:07pm
And to add to my post, The Obsolete Man, I cannot tell you how disappointed I am, that not only do you claim that CBS makes a legitimate effort when it comes to securing music rights on DVD, but you also claim that Fox made a legitimate effort securing music rights for WKRP on DVD.

Let me ask you this: Do you honestly know this for a fact, or are you just speculating?
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post #167 of 170
10/11/09 at 10:07pm
My knowledge is as extensive as what I wrote in my posts, meaning, I speculated nothing about WKRP, or Paramount trying to clear music rights, just stating that most of us accept that music rights suck, and it is no surprise when songs are cut.

The only shows I specifically mentioned about rights trying to be secured were Dawson's Creek and Married... With Children, which are common knowledge. Everything else is you reading into my post a lot of stuff that wasn't there.
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post #168 of 170
3/17/10 at 5:30pm
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Season 3 has been announced: http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Rhoda-Season-3/13482

I've read that they really did go all out to get restored uncut prints for Season 2. I hope that they have invested a similar level of effort into Season 3. Sales numbers must not be an issue with this set given that they've announced S3 before S2 even hits the market. Hopefully that bodes well for completion of the series.
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post #169 of 170
10/1/10 at 7:45am

RHODA Season 4 is available now thru SHOUT FACTORY DIRECT. My order shipped super fast (Looks like they used Priority Shipping) Here is their order link

 

http://www.shoutfactorystore.com/prod.aspx?pfid=5257268

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post #170 of 170
10/3/10 at 5:49am
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They do use priority mail. I got my set within 3 days of ordering it.

 

As with Seasons 2 and 3 the transfers are great. The only big difference is the switch to an amaray style case instead of the slim cases used in Seasons 1-3. Looking at how well done Seasons 2-4 are, I'm still baffled anew as to why they totally dropped the ball on Season 1.

 

If they could go all out for the subsequent seasons why not the first one? I've read the "explanations" they've posted on their site, but it still makes no sense to me.

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