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Wizard of Oz/Gone with the Wind 70th

post #1 of 30
12/15/08 at 5:40pm
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Round 12? how many times has "Oz" been re-released?

Amazon has art work up for both the standard and Blu Ray releases of "The Wizard of OZ' and "Gone With the Wind" both to come in deluxe packaging - like the recent "I am Legend" set - no release date is set yet. Both celebrating their 70TH Anniversary in 2009
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post #2 of 30
12/15/08 at 6:04pm

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I'll upgrade to BD.
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post #3 of 30
12/15/08 at 7:17pm

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I can't wait to see Wizard of Oz and Gone With the Wind on Blu-ray. That much is good news.

Are these newly remastered? by a different personage than before? Is there any indication that the willful, destructive, and highly subjective color alterations imposed on the previous box-sets have been corrected?
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post #4 of 30
12/15/08 at 8:39pm

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I'm interested to see what additional special features these will have. There isn't much more they could do, but off the top of my head it would be great to have some of those GWTW screen tests available in full.
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post #5 of 30
12/15/08 at 8:49pm

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I think the burning of Atlanta would be something to see in high-definition.
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post #6 of 30
12/15/08 at 9:10pm

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Here's the artwork...





And just think...we'll only have to wait a mere five years to see what Warners does for the 75th!! ;-)
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post #7 of 30
12/15/08 at 9:25pm

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Hanging Munchkin in Hi-Def!
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post #8 of 30
12/16/08 at 12:01am

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Hopefully the BDs are the last time I have to buy either of these titles.
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post #9 of 30
12/16/08 at 2:22am

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Originally Posted by MatthewA
Hopefully the BDs are the last time I have to buy either of these titles.
You and me, both. Off the top of my head, I think this will be my fourth purchase of "The Wizard of Oz" on DVD/Blu-ray.






Crawdaddy
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post #10 of 30
12/16/08 at 6:12am

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Originally Posted by Robert Crawford
You and me, both. Off the top of my head, I think this will be my fourth purchase of "The Wizard of Oz" on DVD/Blu-ray.






Crawdaddy

For me as well and also the big ULTIMATE OZ laserdisc box, and two VHS releases. I love the film, but enough is enough!
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post #11 of 30
12/16/08 at 8:39am

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There will never be an ultimate edition of oz, unless they include the alternate Pink Floyd soundtrack !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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post #12 of 30
12/16/08 at 12:09pm

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As if that will ever happen . Led Zeppelin didn't want Stairway to Heaven to be used in Almost Famous, so Pink Floyd is never going to let a studio use an entire album just as a bonus feature. It would cost an enormous amount, I think.
But it's great to dream, I guess .
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post #13 of 30
12/16/08 at 12:18pm

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I can live without the Pink Floyd album. I actually saw the two synced up in a movie theater that ran it off of a DVD dub of a dub of a dub of a VHS tape. It was an excruciating experience, and it cured me of any desire to listen to Pink Floyd ever again.
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post #14 of 30
12/16/08 at 12:25pm

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Originally Posted by Brian Borst
As if that will ever happen . Led Zeppelin didn't want Stairway to Heaven to be used in Almost Famous, so Pink Floyd is never going to let a studio use an entire album just as a bonus feature. It would cost an enormous amount, I think.
But it's great to dream, I guess .
Well they did allow TCM to broadcast the film back in 2000 with Dark Side of the Moon as a SAP track so its not completely impossible.
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post #15 of 30
12/16/08 at 12:28pm

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OK- just what new extras will these releases have that the last ones didn't? If it's basically the same stuff as before, no thank you. I already have the OZ 3-disc set, and the GWTW 4-disc set. If stuff is created for additional discs, I'll change my mind. Details, anyone?
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post #16 of 30
12/16/08 at 12:29pm

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I thought everyone could tell I was joking about the pink floyd thing.Ive experienced some of this on you tube , it was terrible .
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post #17 of 30
12/16/08 at 1:43pm

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Well they did allow TCM to broadcast the film back in 2000 with Dark Side of the Moon as a SAP track so its not completely impossible.

Really? I'd want to see that.

And Tony, we do know, but it's a great discussion subject, nonetheless. I've also seen bits of it on YouTube, and it didn't totally convince me either. I'd like to do it properly, but my copy of WoO is in PAL, so it's not going to sync very well.
Now 'Echoes' and 'Jupiter Beyond the Infinite' from 2001: A Space Odyssey work together extremely well, down to the length of the sequence and the song. It's a good experience (again, look on YouTube).
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post #18 of 30
12/16/08 at 3:49pm

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Well, the only part thats kind of hilarious is when Dorothy enters oz, and they have the money song playing,lol !!!!!!!
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post #19 of 30
12/17/08 at 1:42am

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OK, thats it-Im stopping at iteration #10 of WOZ
Ill sign anything...
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post #20 of 30
12/17/08 at 4:02am

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(love the snow on the buttons and stuff here. My vote for most festive board by a long shot!! ho ho ho!!! )


I'm all over these...adding to the list of first BDs I'll buy when I finally get a player. Glad I didn't upgrade before because I almost did on both these several times.
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post #21 of 30
12/18/08 at 12:42pm

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Originally Posted by Charles Ellis
OK- just what new extras will these releases have that the last ones didn't? If it's basically the same stuff as before, no thank you. I already have the OZ 3-disc set, and the GWTW 4-disc set. If stuff is created for additional discs, I'll change my mind. Details, anyone?

I don't know what else they could add, especially to the Oz set.

As Andrew said in another five years we'll get to see the 75th anniversary sets!
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post #22 of 30
12/18/08 at 12:50pm

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I had the first two stand-alone DVDs of WIZARD OF OZ (first MGM and then WB), but never bought the recent box set of what, only a couple of years ago?? I'm glad I didn't bite, so I can buy the Blu-ray and not feel too upset.
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post #23 of 30
12/18/08 at 1:49pm

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Well, the only part thats kind of hilarious is when Dorothy enters oz, and they have the money song playing,lol !!!!!!!

Well, I also enjoy Great Gig in the Sky to the tornado scene.

I'm sure some of you are aware that filmmakers use temp tracks while creating and editing their films. Often these are favorite albums of the director or the editor.

For the Pink Floyd fans, here is Another Brick in the Wall (Part II) to The Matrix



YouTube - Another Brick in the Wall (Part II) to The Matrix
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post #24 of 30
12/18/08 at 2:22pm

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^Which is kinda odd since The Matrix is allegedly supposed to synch to Wish You Were Here.

In regards to on-disc extras, I highly doubt there are going to be any as these sets were pretty packed in their 3 and 4 disc configurations to begin with (Wizard of Oz was also the first WB special edition with copius amounts of feelies, so I'm not sure what can be added there). Its just going to be another repackaging that'll probably only sell well on Blu-ray.
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post #25 of 30
12/18/08 at 2:31pm

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Originally Posted by Lord Dalek
^Which is kinda odd since The Matrix is allegedly supposed to synch to Wish You Were Here.

In regards to on-disc extras, I highly doubt there are going to be any as these sets were pretty packed in their 3 and 4 disc configurations to begin with (Wizard of Oz was also the first WB special edition with copius amounts of feelies, so I'm not sure what can be added there). Its just going to be another repackaging that'll probably only sell well on Blu-ray.
This is exactly what I'm expecting. Frankly, it looks like "Casablanca" all over again. Great for the BR folks, but an expensive retread for the SD crowd...unless you're into paper products. For the member who asked earlier whether the color correction will change, my expectation is a resounding "no". I don't even expect the disk IDs to change, let alone anything regarding the transfer.
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post #26 of 30
12/19/08 at 5:13pm

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Is the color actually screwed up on the older "ultimate edition" DVDs of THE WIZARD OF OZ and GONE WITH THE WIND? Was this verified, and by whom? I don't own either one, but was considering a purchase
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post #27 of 30
12/19/08 at 5:23pm

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Originally Posted by Robert Crawford
You and me, both. Off the top of my head, I think this will be my fourth purchase of "The Wizard of Oz" on DVD/Blu-ray.






Crawdaddy
I just double-checked my library and the blu-ray purchase of "The Wizard of Oz" will be my fifth purchase on DVD/Blu-ray.

I have the 1997 release, two 1999 releases including the Deluxe Edition and the 2005 3-disc Collectors Edition.

I'm a fool for Judy Garland in Technicolor.






Crawdaddy
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post #28 of 30
12/19/08 at 6:04pm

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey Nelson
Is the color actually screwed up on the older "ultimate edition" DVDs of THE WIZARD OF OZ and GONE WITH THE WIND? Was this verified, and by whom? I don't own either one, but was considering a purchase
Some people here believe the Ultra-rez rendition of Oz features tones that are a shade too warm when compared to the 2000 dvd, an even smaller minority (mainly Richard--W and... Richard--W) believe GWTW is too yellow.
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post #29 of 30
12/19/08 at 6:09pm

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey Nelson
Is the color actually screwed up on the older "ultimate edition" DVDs of THE WIZARD OF OZ and GONE WITH THE WIND? Was this verified, and by whom? I don't own either one, but was considering a purchase

MGM's Oz is soft and oversaturated, their GWTW looks a bit "autocorrected" in white levels and has a lot of edge enhancement. Warner's Oz remaster from '99 is better, but has weak contrast and is eaten up with compression artifacting. Not sure of the reference standpoint, but the '05 Oz master looks identical in color timing to the dye-transfer print I had a chance to see. Only on the 2005 versions can you see the Witch's cloak take on an inky black level. No idea what GWTW is supposed to look like, but the '04 remaster apparently had an original '39 Tech print to reference color timing from. The MGM DVD looks like someone applied the "auto color" filter in Photoshop.
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post #30 of 30
12/21/08 at 10:31am

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I actually never bought THE WIZARD OF OZ at all, so I at least will welcome this on Blu-ray and be done buying it after my first purchase. I do agree they should stop with the multiple dipping, although you really can't fault them for bringing it out on Blu. Hopefully a release date will be set soon.
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