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I have a theory that horror movies have a total audience of around $40-50 million. Whether they make that up front or over the long haul depends on the movie, but with a few exceptions they all seem to finish up right around that range.
I'd agree. The standard for a horror "hit" seems to be in that range. If you can push one past $50M, then that's "blockbuster" territory for a horror film.

But I think when the studio saw the opening weekend gross for F13, they assumed they'd be reaching the $100M level. No chance now. They'll be lucky to reach $70M.
post #212 of 1466

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Adam hit a very interesting note about how much a horror film can make. I actually think the number is closer to around $15-$25 million IF you only get the fanboys. More if you can get the teenage dollar that weekend. Romero's LAND OF THE DEAD was sold to "fanboys" and pulled that much in, which is why I was surprised DIARY OF THE DEAD didn't at least try to get the same push or even Argento's THE THIRD MOTHER. I think fanboys would suppose anything you throw out there but I guess the studios also want that teenage dollar.

Low budget horror films making a killing has been going on since the 1930s so this here is certainly nothing new.
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The studio very much believed that F13 would end up crossing the $100 million plateau based on its stronger-than-expected opening. An 81% second-weekend collapse has completely erased that option. Historically, only 17 films from the horror/thriller genre have topped the century mark, only two of those qualify as a "slasher" flick (the two "Scream" movies).

$100 million-plus earning horror/thriller films...
"The Sixth Sense" $293.5 million
"Jaws" $260 million
"The Exorcist" $232.7 million
"Signs" $228.0 million
"Hannibal" $165.1 million
"Fatal Attraction" $156.6 million
"What Lies Beneath" $155.5 million
"The Blair Witch Project" $140.5 million
"The Silence of the Lambs" $130.7 million
"The Ring" $129.1 million
"The Village" $114.2 million
"The Grudge" $110.4 million
"Interview with the Vampire" $105.3 million
"Scream" $103.0 million
"Scream 2" $101.4 million
"Sleepy Hollow" $101.1 million
"Seven" $100.1 million
post #214 of 1466
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Friday Estimates

#1 "Jonas Brothers: The 3D Concert Experience" $4.8 million
#2 "Tyler Perry's Madea Goes to Jail" $4.6 million ($53.0 million) 69% Friday-to-Friday drop
#3 "Slumdog Millionaire" $3.2 million ($106.2 million) 53% Friday-to-Friday increase
#4 "Taken" $2.9 million ($100.8 million) 18% Friday-to-Friday drop
#5 "He's Just Not That Into You" $1.9 million ($74.6 million) 35% Friday-to-Friday drop
#6 "Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun-Li" $1.7 million
#7 "Confessions of a Shopaholic" $1.44 million ($30.6 million) 38% Friday-to-Friday drop
#8 "Paul Blart: Mall Cop" $1.42 million ($123.9 million) 24% Friday-to-Friday drop
#9 "Fired Up" $1.36 million ($7.7 million) 40% Friday-to-Friday drop
#10 "Coraline" $1.2 million ($57.0 million) 56% Friday-to-Friday drop
#11 "Friday the 13th" $1.15 million ($58.2 million) 59% Friday-to-Friday drop
#12 "The International" $780K ($19.3 million) 42% Friday-to-Friday drop

The Jonas Brothers movie didn't get off to same sort of start that the 'Hannah Montana/Miley Cyrus' concert flick did a year ago, but it will still end up topping the box office this weekend despite a stern challenge from last weekend's champ "Madea Goes to Jail", despite its 69% Friday-to-Friday fall.
post #215 of 1466

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The Jonas Brothers movie didn't get off to same sort of start that the 'Hannah Montana/Miley Cyrus' concert flick did a year ago
Thank god. Maybe there's hope for the youth of America after all.
post #216 of 1466

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Thank god. Maybe there's hope for the youth of America after all.

Yeah whatever happened to kids listening to music that would turn their parents green
post #217 of 1466

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so after seeing taken it's pretty obvious why it's making so much money. holy shit what a superb thrill-ride & completely satisfying film. I wouldn't call it perfect, but it's up there with the Bourne movies for me in terms of how damn well done it is. deserves every penny its earned, and I can't wait for the blu-ray. hell I'd go see it again in theatres. damn.
post #218 of 1466
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Weekend Estimates

#1 "Tyler Perry's Madea Goes to Jail" $16.5 million ($64.9 million) -60%
#2 "Jonas Brothers: The 3D Concert Experience" $12.7 million
#3 "Slumdog Millionaire" $12.2 million ($115.1 million) +45%
#4 "Taken" $10.0 million ($107.9 million) -12%
#5 "He's Just Not That Into You" $5.9 million ($78.5 million) -31%
#6 "Paul Blart: Mall Cop" $5.6 million ($128.1 million) -18%
#7 "Coraline" $5.3 million ($61.1 million) -54%
#8 "Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun-Li" $4.7 million
#9 "Confessions of a Shopaholic" $4.5 million ($33.7 million) -33%
#10 "Fired Up" $3.8 million ($10.1 million) -31%
#11 "Friday the 13th" $3.7 million ($60.7 million) -53%
#12 "Gran Torino" $3.0 million ($138.6 million) -19%

For the first time this year, the industry had a down weekend compared to year-to-go levels. This weekend also ends 2009's historic streak of eight consecutive weekends where the top 12 finished with more than $100 million. Despite all of this, February '09 finished with a record-shattering mark of $766.2 million. The haul represents the biggest February tally in history on top of marking the first time in five years that the month sold more than 100 million theater admissions.

2009's mammoth year-to-date tally now stands at $1.809 billion, representing a 15% bump over last year ($1.580 billion), up 32% over '07 ($1.375 billion), 28% stronger than '06 ($1,409 billion), and a 30% improvement over '05 ($1.393 billion). Next weekend is expected to vault the year past the $2 billion plateau in record time.

In a shocking turn of events, Lionsgate's "Madea Goes to Jail" retained the #1 spot this weekend, despite taking a 60% hit in business. The comedy has so far tallied just under $65 million and could be end its run by squeaking past the century mark, giving writer/director/producer Tyler Perry the first such hit of his career. Even if it falls short of that high-water mark, it will still end up being the biggest hit that Perry has had thus far.

Disney's "Jonas Brothers: The 3D Concert Experience" ended up earning less than half of what the 'Hannah Montana/Miley Cyrus' concert flick did last year. Disney execs were hoping for at least a haul of $20 million, but the film's strongest day in theaters was Friday, which isn't a good sign for a movie that was supposed to pull in big matinee numbers with families on Saturday and Sunday. The film earned a very strong average of $9,992 from its 1,271 theaters. While it won't be the massive hit that the 'Hannah Montana' film was last year, Disney should still see a decent return on their investment in spite of its somewhat disappointing start.

Fresh off of winning eight Oscars last weekend, Fox Searchlight/WB's "Slumdog Millionaire" expanded to nearly 700 more theaters this weekend and saw an incredible 45% increase in business. The film, which took top honors in the Best Picture and Best Director categories, has now tallied just over $115 million. Not too shabby for a film that cost only $15 million to make. Fox is speculating that the movie could end up earning a final domestic haul in area of $150 million.

Fox also enjoyed stellar results with their surprise smash "Taken". The action flick was off by only 12% and became the second '09 release to top the $100 million mark. The movie is currently sitting on a domestic haul of just under $108 million.

New Line/WB's "He's Just Not That Into You" also had a solid hold as it was off by 31% this weekend. The movie has so far tallied $78.5 million. Sony's comedy hit "Paul Blart: Mall Cop" continues its stellar run as it took only an 18% hit this week. The comedy has now pulled in a little over $128 million. Focus Features' "Coraline" is sitting on a domestic mark of $61.1 million.

Fox's "Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun-Li" drew lukewarm interest this weekend as it debuted with only $4.7 million, earning a so-so per-theater average of $4,093 from its 1,136 locations.

Disney's "Confessions of a Shopaholic" has so far tallied $33.7 million. Sony's "Fired Up" is sitting on a domestic mark of just over $10 million. New Line/WB's "Friday the 13th" has now earned close to $61 million. WB's big hit "Gran Torino" rounds out the top 12 and has taken in a phenomenal haul of $138.6 million.

While this marks the first down weekend of '09, the "slump" should be very short lived as next week sees "Watchmen" invade nearly 4,000 theaters. The latest from "300" director Zack Snyder is expected to open with at least $50 million. Some are predicting a debut haul matching the nearly $71 million performance of "300" two years ago. With a budget well north of the $100 million mark, as well as an additional $50 million-plus spent on marketing, WB execs are banking on "Watchmen" being a giant smash. The industry is hoping it gets March off to a monstrous start. We'll see what happens.
post #219 of 1466

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Seems like the Oscar wins didn't help too many outside of SLUMDOG.

I'm really wanting to see TAKEN but I'm worried about all the cuts that were made to it to get a PG-13 rating. Reviews from overseas makes it seem like the movie was very violent and all of that has been taken out.
post #220 of 1466
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"Taken" was a really well done movie and I'm glad that it turned into such a big hit, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see an unrated version released on DVD sometime this summer.
post #221 of 1466

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Originally Posted by Michael Elliott
Seems like the Oscar wins didn't help too many outside of SLUMDOG.

I'm really wanting to see TAKEN but I'm worried about all the cuts that were made to it to get a PG-13 rating. Reviews from overseas makes it seem like the movie was very violent and all of that has been taken out.
It's an extraordinarily violent picture in its PG-13 incarnation, too. The US cut is approximately two minutes shorter than the international release, which likely were stripped mostly from the torture scene. Without getting into specifics, it's very effective psychologically and gracefully implies what is probably more explicitly shown over seas. During the climax, the US cut keeps the focus largely on Liam Neeson which means we hear rather than see a lot of the gun killings. If I didn't know there was a longer cut, I wouldn't have been able to tell anything was missing.

Just as I had a hunch that the "Hannah Montana" concert movie was going to be huge, I had a hunch that the "Jonas Brothers" concert movie was going to under-perform. For one thing, they didn't have a TV series as a launching pad. For another, a lot of parents probably have less discretionary income than they had when "Hannah Montana" came out. These 3D concert movies aren't cheap, with tickets around $13-15.
post #222 of 1466

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It's astounding how Taken has taken off, a well deserved megahit. For comparison Sylvester Stallone's ultra violent actioner Rambo ended up grossing $42m a year ago.

Slumdog Millionaire, an incredible success story. I was reading the other day that at one stage the filmmakers were considering releasing the film straight to dvd thinking it had no chance of pulling in the punters at theaters...
post #223 of 1466

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Well done for Taken again. Wow. Like many here, I enjoyed it and will own on Blu-ray but will admit my surprise to how well it's doing. It's a pretty tight, short movie that has touched a nerve with audiences.

Well done Qui Gon Liam.
post #224 of 1466

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Originally Posted by Adam Lenhardt
It's an extraordinarily violent picture in its PG-13 incarnation, too. The US cut is approximately two minutes shorter than the international release, which likely were stripped mostly from the torture scene. Without getting into specifics, it's very effective psychologically and gracefully implies what is probably more explicitly shown over seas. During the climax, the US cut keeps the focus largely on Liam Neeson which means we hear rather than see a lot of the gun killings. If I didn't know there was a longer cut, I wouldn't have been able to tell anything was missing.

Just as I had a hunch that the "Hannah Montana" concert movie was going to be huge, I had a hunch that the "Jonas Brothers" concert movie was going to under-perform. For one thing, they didn't have a TV series as a launching pad. For another, a lot of parents probably have less discretionary income than they had when "Hannah Montana" came out. These 3D concert movies aren't cheap, with tickets around $13-15.


Thanks Adam. I might try to catch a showing of TAKEN this week. I just didn't want there to be obvious edits like happen a lot of times when a movie is made a certain way and then gets cut.
post #225 of 1466

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do u think madea will still be #2 after Watchmen comes? what else is coming out?
post #226 of 1466
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"Watchmen" is the only wide release next weekend.
post #227 of 1466

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do we know how much dark knight made in IMAX when it was re-released last month?
post #228 of 1466
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The studio didn't release any specific breakdown of where the reissue coin came from, but overall TDK pulled in close to $50 million during its entire IMAX run.
post #229 of 1466
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'Watchmen' has already broken a record

'Watchmen' has already broken a record
Debuting in the most theaters for an R-rated film
By Carl DiOrio

March 4, 2009, 03:51 PM ET
However high "Watchmen" grosses can climb, the superhero actioner sure will be playing wide: Its 3,611 playdates will be the most ever for an R-rated film.

Further aiding its much-watched bow, the Zack Snyder-helmed comic book adaptation will play in an impressive 1,600 locations starting at midnight Thursday. That's substantially more than the 656 midnight shows that helped Snyder's ancient Greece actioner "300" fetch an incredible $28 million in only the first day of its $71 million opening weekend in March 2007.

The first-day haul for "300" was the second-highest ever for an R-rated pic, after the $42.5 million tally that Warners registered with 2003's "The Matrix Reloaded," according to Nielsen EDI. The previous widest release for an R-rated pic was the distributor's 3,603-theater bow for "Reloaded."

Warners distribution president Dan Fellman said "Watchmen" wasn't a tough sell with theater owners.

"The reaction at our exhibitor screenings was terrific, and after the success of '300,' there wasn't an exhibitor in the country who didn't want to play Zack Snyder's next movie," Fellman said.

The "Watchmen" playdates include 124 engagements in Imax giant-screen auditoriums.

"All will have midnight shows, and that's a function of demand," Imax Filmed Entertainment president Greg Foster said. "If there weren't midnight shows, there would be a riot. The demand is very, very strong."

Imax's Web site crashed four times this week because of traffic surges by "Watchmen" fans looking for ticket information, Foster said.

Online ticketer Fandango said Wednesday that "Watchmen" purchases represented 90% of its advance ticket sales for this weekend. No other wide opener is set for the frame.

"Watchmen" was co-produced by Warners and Legendary Pictures. Fox also will get a taste of profits under terms of a settlement of a dispute over distribution rights.
post #230 of 1466

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Watchmen has grossed $4.55m in just 3 hours, not a bad start I suppose...

The Numbers News - Watchmen Starts with $4.550 Million at Midnight
post #231 of 1466
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Friday Estimates

#1 "Watchmen" $25.1 million
#2 "Tyler Perry's Madea Goes to Jail" $2.6 million ($70.3 million) 46% Friday-to-Friday drop
#3 "Taken" $2.3 million ($112.9 million) 20% Friday-to-Friday drop
#4 "Slumdog Millionaire" $2.0 million ($120.5 million) 40% Friday-to-Friday drop
#5 "He's Just Not That Into You" $1.4 million ($82.0 million) 30% Friday-to-Friday drop
#6 "Paul Blart: Mall Cop" $1.1 million ($130.6 million) 20% Friday-to-Friday drop
#7 "Confessions of a Shopaholic" $1.0 million ($36.3 million) 30% Friday-to-Friday drop
#8 "Fired Up" $920K ($11.7 million) 33% Friday-to-Friday drop
#9 "Jonas Brothers: The 3D Concert Experience" $850K ($14.9 million) 83% Friday-to-Friday drop (Ouch!)
#10 "Coraline" $805K ($63.2 million) 34% Friday-to-Friday drop
#11 "Gran Torino" $555K ($140.1 million) 26% Friday-to-Friday drop
#12 "The Reader" $525K ($28.5 million) 32% Friday-to-Friday drop

"Watchmen" easily took the top spot yesterday as it pulled in a very impressive first-day haul of just over $25 million. This one is expected to be a bit more front-loaded than "300" ($28 million opening day followed by a full weekend gross of close to $71 million) was, so expect a debut weekend tally in the neighborhood of $60 million. With such a strong launch, this is exactly the type of start the industry wanted for March as the overall box office continues its torrid pace.
post #232 of 1466

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$55.6m opening weekend for Watchmen, quite impressive considering it's R-rated and nearly 3 hours long with no stars. It grossed more than the rest of the top 10 movies combined, more than the top 20 combined! It'll pass the $100m milestone but passing $200m may be tricky, word of mouth and next weeks drop will be the decider.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend...wknd=10&p=.htm
post #233 of 1466

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$55M isn't really what the studio expected, though.

Early in the week, they were talking $70, then $60. To end at $55 is down from the early projections.
post #234 of 1466

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While it won't be a bomb, I do think this will come in under projections. It'll probably get to $150 million domestic, and that's it. Internationally, who knows?

It's just one of those films that will unlikely ever reach a truly pop culture audience. No surprise, since the source material is the same. My parents went and saw Spider-Man and Batman, even thought they never read comics, because there's a pop culture wavelength there. Neither one of them would ever be interested in Sin City, 300, or Watchmen, though. I see that as representative of a a large part of the viewing public out there.

In the end, it's gonna be one of those movies the fans should be happy got made the way it did, cherish it themselves, and that's that. They shouldn't expect it to reach across the aisle, so to speak.
post #235 of 1466

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It didn't top 300's $70m opening weekend 2 years ago, but it did sell out all it's IMAX screenings -

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Many "Watchmen" enthusiasts raced to IMAX theaters to see the exploits of Dr. Manhattan and company on the bigger screens. Greg Foster, chairman and president of IMAX Filmed Entertainment, said the movie sold out on all 124 IMAX screens it was playing on during the weekend and was the second largest opening in company history behind another superhero film, 2008's "The Dark Knight".

'Watchmen' conquers box office with $55.7 million
post #236 of 1466

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$55M isn't really what the studio expected, though.

Early in the week, they were talking $70, then $60. To end at $55 is down from the early projections.
It would seem to signal a very front-loaded film that it made nearly 50% of its total weekend gross on Friday.
post #237 of 1466
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WB/Paramount's "Watchmen" got off to a great start as it tallied the strongest opening of the year thus far ($55.7 mil), but did come in under what studio execs were hoping for ($60 million-plus). The movie did mark the third best March opening ever behind "300" ($70.9 million) and "Ice Age: The Meltdown" ($68.0 million), on top of becoming the sixth best start for any film carrying an R rating. "Watchmen" is only the third flick to open with more than $50 million ever for the month of March. Its also only the eighth R rated movie in history to tally an opening gross north of the $50 million plateau. For the weekend, the film earned a stellar average of $15,413 from its 3,611 theaters.

What was troubling was that was that "Watchmen" took a 24% Friday-to-Saturday drop in business and earned an average rating of B from the exit polling. This indicates that word-of-mouth may not be that strong for the film in coming weeks and it could end up having relatively short legs. Still, the movie will end up earning well north of the century mark for WB and should pull in solid numbers overseas for Paramount. Speaking of which, the flick did pull in $28 million from 45 territories this weekend. Fox will receive about 8.5% of the domestic gross.

Lionsgate's "Madea Goes to Jail" had a moderate decline of 46% this weekend and has so far tallied $76.5 million. Fox's "Taken" had another great hold (the best of the top 12) as it was off by about 25%. The action flick has now earned just over $118 million. Oscar-winner "Slumdog Millionaire" took a 42% hit in business as its total passed the $125 million mark. Sony's "Paul Blart: Mall Cop" continues its fantastic run as it also enjoyed a 25% dip and has so far earned $133.6 million.

New Line/WB's "He's Just Not That Into You" has now earned $84.6 million. Focus Features' "Coraline" is sitting on a domestic haul of close to $66 million. Disney's "Confessions of a Shopaholic" has pulled in more than $38 million since its release. Disney's "Jonas Brothers: The 3D Concert Experience" completely collapsed this weekend as it was hit with a disastrous 78% decline. This one is fading fast. Sony's "Fired Up" has so far tallied more than $13 million. WB's "Gran Torino" is nearing the $142 million mark, while Oscar-winner "The Reader" rounds out the top 12 as it crossed the $30 million plateau.

Overall, the top 12 earned $103.1 million, marking only the fourth time in history that the top 12 movies earned more than $100 million during the first weekend of March. This was the type of beginning that the studios were hoping for as 2009 continues its torrid pace at the box office.

The year has so far tallied a massive $1.957 billion and will pass the $2 billion plateau in record time. This year is 14% stronger than this point in '08 ($1.711 billion), up 28% over '07 ($1.532 billion), a 27% bump over '06 ($1.538 billion), and a near 27% improvement compared to '05 ($1.548 billion).

Next weekend will see three new releases enter the marketplace. Disney's "Race to Witch Mountain", Universal's "The Last House on the Left", and Fox's "Miss March" will all challenge for the top spot. "Race to Witch Mountain" is currently expected to top the box office heap next week with little difficulty, while many are expecting a 50%-plus decline for "Watchmen". We'll see what happens.
post #238 of 1466

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I wouldn't be surprised if Race To Witch Mountain outgrosses Watchmen.
post #239 of 1466

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I wouldn't be too surprised if "Last House..." tops them both next weekend. Horror has been hot lately (at least in the debut weekend).
post #240 of 1466

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Originally Posted by TerryRL
What was troubling was that was that "Watchmen" took a 24% Friday-to-Saturday drop in business and earned an average rating of B from the exit polling. This indicates that word-of-mouth may not be that strong for the film in coming weeks and it could end up having relatively short legs. Still, the movie will end up earning well north of the century mark for WB and should pull in solid numbers overseas for Paramount. Speaking of which, the flick did pull in $28 million from 45 territories this weekend. Fox will receive about 8.5% of the domestic gross.
I have a feeling that B rating was averaged out from a very polarized audience sample. Almost everyone I've talked to about the film either loved it or strongly disliked it. The long running time also has to cut into the number of showings in a day.
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