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post #1441 of 1466
1/2/10 at 11:28am
I would respectfully disagree as to final haul if this third Friday's estimated gross of 25 million is any indication.  Avatar will challenge the Dark Knight at 533 million and Titanic at 600 million  before it completes its run.   Just in my humble opinion.

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http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/new-years-day-another-big-avatar-payday-the-blind-side-crosses-200m-domestic/

"Avatar" will become the first film in history to earn at least $50 million in three consecutive weekends of business.  Based on these numbers the movie could actually be looking at another weekend of earning north of the $60 million mark.  This thing looks headed for a final haul in the neighborhood of $450-$500 million.  The movie has already earned more than $800 million globally, and a final worldwide mark of over $1 billion is now a lock.
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post #1442 of 1466
1/2/10 at 12:44pm
Everyone's back to work and school on Monday, so the grosses will probably fall off some. But it's still amazing.
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post #1443 of 1466
1/2/10 at 12:51pm
Malcolm is correct.  I'll be interested to see how it does in it's fourth weekend.  That will be the best indicator of where the film will end up.  But it's haul has been amazing.  I never would have guessed the film would be this popular and successful.
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post #1444 of 1466
1/2/10 at 1:18pm
Avatar will be the first film to gross more than $60 million in  each of its first 3 weekends at the box office (it's projected to bring in $62 million this weekend), which is more impressive than grossing $50 million for each of its first 3 weekends. 
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post #1445 of 1466
1/2/10 at 2:50pm
I agree. TDK made $151m in August (which would be January for Avatar) and then $23m the entire month of Sept (February for Avatar). The way it is going it should be able to over come those, especially with awards season coming up and the current Oscar buzz. All it has to do is overcome that giant opening weekend TDK had, which there is only $55m left to chip away at.

Here are the weekly gross comparisons (Friday-thursday). They both opened on Fridays so it should be a good way to see how well Avatar has been holding during the week, not just the weekends.

TDK Week 1: $239m
Avatar Week 1: $137m

TDK Week 2: $112m (53% drop)
Avatar Week 2: $147m (7% increase)

TDK Week 3: $65m (42% drop)
Avatar Week 3: ?

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Originally Posted by Carlos_E View Post

I would respectfully disagree as to final haul if this third Friday's estimated gross of 25 million is any indication.  Avatar will challenge the Dark Knight at 533 million and Titanic at 600 million  before it completes its run.   Just in my humble opinion.
 


 
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post #1446 of 1466
1/2/10 at 3:34pm
The Blind Side turned into the little movie that could.  Yes, all due focus on Avatar.. but an amazing, amazing box office performance to reach $200M for that film.  Kind of defied normal blockbuster logic.
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post #1447 of 1466
1/2/10 at 5:48pm
Thread Starter 
2009 earned a record-shattering $10.585 billion domestically, which translates to an estimated 1.474 billion total theater admissions sold.  The 1.474 billion mark represents the sixth best ticket sale amount Hollywood has enjoyed since the 1950s.  This decade also earned a jaw-dropping $91.778 billion domestically at the box office, easily passing the former record of $57.414 billion that was held by the 90s to become the biggest money-making ten years the industry has ever enjoyed. 

BIGGEST YEARS OF MOVIE ATTENDANCE
#1 2002 1.576 billion
#2 2003 1.532 billion
#3 2004 1.511 billion
#4 2001 1.487 billion
#5 1998 1.481 billion
#6 2009 1.474 billion
#7 1999 1.465 billion
#8 2000 1.421 billion
#9 2006 1.406 billion
#10 2007 1.405 billion

The 2000s' also became the biggest decade of theater attendance sine the 1950s.  A phenomenal 14.532 billion tickets were sold in the last ten years.  1.559 billion more tickets were sold this decade than in the 90s (12.973 billion) and an impressive 3.366 billion more than what was sold in the 80s (11.169 billion). 

Here are the monthly tallies for 2009 as it became the biggest money-making year for the industry...

January $1,014.4 billion (biggest ever)*
February $769.3 million (biggest ever)*
March $651.6 million (sixth best ever)
April $695.1 million (biggest ever)*
May $1,018.4 billion (biggest ever)*
June $1,086.7 billion (biggest ever)*
July $1,161.1 billion (third best ever)
August $905.3 million (second best ever)
September $543.5 million (second best ever)
October $692.6 million (biggest ever)*
November $989.6 million (biggest ever)*
December $1,057.4 billion (biggest ever)*

A record five months passed the $1 billion plateau in domestic earnings with January, May, and December hitting those marks for the first time.  Eight of the past twelve months hit all-time highs in box office grosses as well.  2010 has a lot to live up to because '09 has definitely been one for the books.  The industry is hopeful that this year will kick off the new decade in the same fashion that '09 was able to close out the previous decade.  We'll see what happens.
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post #1448 of 1466
1/3/10 at 8:38pm
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Not in Michigan unless you're talking about some colleges.  The last day for school was Wednesday.

In VA/MD, 12/23 would've been the last day, but the blizzard kept kids home 12/21 and 12/22.  And that storm clearly hurt business on the east coast over the movie's opening weekend...
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post #1449 of 1466
1/3/10 at 8:39pm
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The kids have it easy today.  When I was in grade and high school, our first day of school was the day after Labor Day and out last day of school was around the 3rd or 4th week in June depending on how many snow days were called.  Also, we didn't have any spring break either.  We got a couple of days off for Easter and that was it.
 

Kids go to school roughly 180 days/year, and I believe that was the case when I was a kid many moons ago.  Kids have it no easier or tougher now - the number of holidays are virtually the same, but their distribution is different...
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post #1450 of 1466
1/3/10 at 8:44pm
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Originally Posted by Michael Elliott View Post

If TITANIC gets accused of having teen girls making it a hit then people are going to attack AVATAR for drawing in fan boys who are watching the film over and over again. 

 


Actually, only 52 people have seen "Avatar" - it's made so much money just because the tickets are so damned expensive! 
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post #1451 of 1466
1/3/10 at 8:48pm
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Any film that can make people voluntarily hand over more money for the 3D version, I say more power to that film and its maker.  It's not like people don't have a choice in paying less for the 2D version. 


 

To some degree, they don't.  If I wanted to see "Avatar" at my local multiplex, I had this choice: 3D or IMAX 3D.  No 2D version playing there, and that's not the only place without a 2D option.

So yes, I could've gone out of my way to see it 2D, but that'd defeat the purpose of saving a few bucks on tickets, wouldn't it?

Kinda wish I HAD gone 2D, though.  Went IMAX 3D and the imagery made me a little motion-sick.  Not "Blair Witch" or Paul Greengrass motion-sick, but a bit googly - had to close my eyes occasionally to ward off nausea...
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post #1452 of 1466
1/3/10 at 8:53pm
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Originally Posted by mattCR View Post

The Blind Side turned into the little movie that could.  Yes, all due focus on Avatar.. but an amazing, amazing box office performance to reach $200M for that film.  Kind of defied normal blockbuster logic.

$200m for "The Blind Side" would impress me more than $700m for "Avatar".  "Blind Side" was a total out of nowhere flick - I didn't even know it existed until it was out for a couple of weeks!  "Avatar" came with a certain level of guaranteed success, but "Blind Side" could've vanished without a trace and no one would've noticed...
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post #1453 of 1466
1/3/10 at 8:55pm
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Originally Posted by dpippel View Post

The profitability of a film is determined by box office revenues, not by the number of tickets sold.

"Profitability" has never been a big factor in the discussion of movie success.  "Paranormal Activity" was a jillion times more profitable than "Avatar" could ever be, but not that many people care about that.  It's all about total grosses, baby!
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post #1454 of 1466
1/3/10 at 8:58pm
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To some degree, they don't.  If I wanted to see "Avatar" at my local multiplex, I had this choice: 3D or IMAX 3D.  No 2D version playing there, and that's not the only place without a 2D option.

So yes, I could've gone out of my way to see it 2D, but that'd defeat the purpose of saving a few bucks on tickets, wouldn't it?

Kinda wish I HAD gone 2D, though.  Went IMAX 3D and the imagery made me a little motion-sick.  Not "Blair Witch" or Paul Greengrass motion-sick, but a bit googly - had to close my eyes occasionally to ward off nausea...

 

You still had a choice.  You're being obstinate for the sake of it.
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post #1455 of 1466
1/3/10 at 9:51pm
I think people are going to be surprised how much of a date flick this is.  When I went the second time - to a sold out show at 10:40 at freaking night, it was all dates.. and there were a -ton- of teenage girls bawling their brains out at the end.

Besides sometimes we over-stereotype an audience.  The teenage girls in my family (my sister & brothers kids) spend as much time playing Call of Duty games as anything else... I think there has been a nice rise in girls who love the inner geek ;)
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post #1456 of 1466
1/4/10 at 9:04am
I don't think it's only fanboys keeping it alive.  My girlfriends parents went at 2 AM because that was the only IMAX time available during their week they had off for the holidays.  They never see movies btw, nor are they ever awake at 2AM. 
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post #1457 of 1466
1/4/10 at 10:41am
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Originally Posted by Colin Jacobson View Post

Kinda wish I HAD gone 2D, though.  Went IMAX 3D and the imagery made me a little motion-sick.  Not "Blair Witch" or Paul Greengrass motion-sick, but a bit googly - had to close my eyes occasionally to ward off nausea...
 

About 20 minutes in, I had to step out to go the bathroom.  As I was leaving the bathroom, a wave of nausea came over me.  But I was able to watch the rest of the movie without incident.  But after it was over, I started getting nauseous again.  I had to lie down and take a nap when I got home.  It was like, I was okay on the roller coaster, but as soon as I stepped off, the vertigo hit me.

I don't think I'll be heading back to the theaters, but I am eagerly awaiting home video just to watch it in 2D.  Incidentally, I've gone to a sum total of 5 films in the last 8 years, with Watchmen being the first one in a two year layoff and Avatar following behind it.  And Avatar only for the 3D, so it's a great marketing tool.

Anyone else take their Real3D glasses home only to find out that the polarized 3D system in the theaters doesn't work at home and you still need anaglyph glasses for home 3D?  Because that bummed me out.
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post #1458 of 1466
1/4/10 at 12:16pm
All the 3D screens I've been to in the past few years want the glasses back after a movie. One makes you take them off if you want to go use the bathroom!

And whatever washing system they use for the glasses seriously needs a case of Jet Dry. I've resorted to using moist towelettes to get the spots off the lenses.

Now that the holidays are over maybe I can finally see this thing. Even the late night IMAX shows have been selling out around here.
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post #1459 of 1466
1/4/10 at 1:05pm
The RealD glasses are disposable, but you can drop them into a recycling bin if you wish.  The other 3D formats require much costlier glasses, and they definitely want them back (I think some of them are $50 a pop!).
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post #1460 of 1466
1/4/10 at 2:21pm
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Originally Posted by Patrick Sun View Post




You still had a choice.  You're being obstinate for the sake of it.
 

Yeah, that's EXACTLY what I'm doing.  It's a great choice: drive three miles for a 3D version or go 20 miles for 2D - I'm just being obstinate when I say that I didn't feel like I really had a "choice"...
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post #1461 of 1466
1/4/10 at 2:23pm
This was 10 years ago, but the Imax 3D shutter glasses we used cost $350 each! Security was tight for those babies. :)

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Originally Posted by Hanson Yoo View Post

The other 3D formats require much costlier glasses, and they definitely want them back (I think some of them are $50 a pop!).
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post #1462 of 1466
1/4/10 at 2:50pm
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Originally Posted by Colin Jacobson View Post




Yeah, that's EXACTLY what I'm doing.  It's a great choice: drive three miles for a 3D version or go 20 miles for 2D - I'm just being obstinate when I say that I didn't feel like I really had a "choice"...

 


I drove 18 miles for IMAX-3D, while I could have seen in 2D at a theater 4 miles away.  Damn you, Cameron!!!!
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post #1463 of 1466
1/27/10 at 11:04am
So much for that.

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Originally Posted by JediFonger View Post

re: trajectory of avatar vs. Titanic. no way avatar is going to do Titanic biz.

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Originally Posted by TravisR View Post

But there's almost no way that any movie will do Titanic business ever again.

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Originally Posted by Adam_S View Post

I figure Titanic probably has another 2-5 years before the record falls.

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Originally Posted by LynxFX View Post

I'd guess that it will happen in the next 5 years.
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post #1464 of 1466
1/27/10 at 11:45am
I've already said that I was totally wrong about Avatar (I thought it would pull in about $200 or $250 million in the U.S. and only make money when you factor in the world gross). Having said that, I still don't think that $600 million dollar hauls are going to suddenly be the norm because Avatar is the incredibly rare exception to the rule.
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post #1465 of 1466
1/27/10 at 4:02pm
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Originally Posted by TravisR View Post

I've already said that I was totally wrong about Avatar...
Not me.  I'm holding out that the film will lose $1.1B somehow and I'll be right.  Fingers crossed!!!
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post #1466 of 1466
1/28/10 at 12:07am
Not knocking anyone, just found it funny how it was brought up just before release. What a difference a month at the boxoffice makes. :)

Hey Chuck, maybe it has just been a rounding error? You know, hollywood math. :)
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