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post #1261 of 1466
Princess and the Frog tickets are $25 or $35 per person (I can't remember how much, but it's obscene), so I'm electing to wait for the wide release.
post #1262 of 1466
At the two specific venues it's playing at, don't they usually have an exhibit or stage show in addition to the movie, hence the inflated ticket price?
post #1263 of 1466
Happy for The Blind Side making good money and doing well.  It's a real feel good and inspirational movie. Even more happy that New Moon dropped a whopping 70%

Woo hoo!
post #1264 of 1466
The Blind Side is surprisingly good.  Way better then I ever expected.
post #1265 of 1466
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by TravisR View Post



Out of curiosity, how much was it expected to drop? I said it a few days ago but after a $140 million weekend, how could it not have had a massive drop? If 70% is much steeper than expected, I'd assume the industry expected a drop closer to about 60%. And in order to to have a 60% drop, the movie would have had to make about $60 million. Has any movie in history made $60 million in its second week of release?

A 65% fall was the steepest the studio thought the movie would drop.  Summit felt that they had a good shot at losing "only" 55-60%.  'New Moon' now owns the highest percentage fall of any film that opened with more than $100 million.

$100 million-plus openers second-weekend percentage falls...

#1 "The Dark Knight" -52%
#2 "Spider-Man 3" -62%

#3 “The Twilight Saga: New Moon” -70%
#4 "Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest" -54%
#5 "Shrek the Third" -56%
#6 "Spider-Man" -38%
#7 "Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End" -62%
#8 "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" -61%
#9 "Star Wars: Episode III- Revenge of the Sith" -49%
#10 "Shrek 2" -33%
#11 "X-Men: The Last Stand" -67%
#12 "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire" -47%
#13 "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" -55%

 

Historically, only four films have had second-weekend hauls north of the $60 million mark.  "The Dark Knight" ($75.2 million), "Shrek 2" ($72.2 million), Spidey 1 ($71.4 million), and Pirates 2 ($62.3 million).
post #1266 of 1466
I just saw the next Twilight will be released June 20! Rofl, Summit is really making a run for it.
post #1267 of 1466
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Originally Posted by Zack Gibbs View Post

I just saw the next Twilight will be released June 20! Rofl, Summit is really making a run for it.
 

Yeah, I don't understand why they're burning thru them so fast.  You'd think they'd want to spread them out so their fiscal balance sheet looks good for a few years to come, rather than just REALLY good for a couple of years then nosedive.

Wasn't that one of the reasons WB moved one of the Harry Potter films? So it would fall under a different fiscal year?
post #1268 of 1466
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Originally Posted by Malcolm R View Post

Yeah, I don't understand why they're burning thru them so fast.  You'd think they'd want to spread them out so their fiscal balance sheet looks good for a few years to come, rather than just REALLY good for a couple of years then nosedive.
 


I'd guess it's because they know the fad won't last (especially when it's primarily driven by teenage girls) and getting them out while it's still hot is going to generate more money than trying to stretch things out over a few years.
post #1269 of 1466
Also, Summit really needs the money. It's hoping to use the Twilight franchise as a launching pad toward being a major player in Hollywood. Banking a lot of money early with the Twilight series gives it the resources to move toward a year round slate of 10 or 20 films.
post #1270 of 1466
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Originally Posted by Adam Lenhardt View Post

...Banking a lot of money early with the Twilight series gives it the resources to move toward a year round slate of 10 or 20 films.

ALL TWILIGHT SPIN-OFFS!
post #1271 of 1466
now they are trying to make the 4th Twilight into TWO films like The Hobbit or HP's last films... obviously the quality is quite diff.
post #1272 of 1466
Huzzah to "The Blind Side" for it's great upwards performance.
post #1273 of 1466
Weekend Box Office:

1. The Blind Side (Warner Bros) Week 3 [3,326] Wkd $20.4M, Cume $129.2M
2. New Moon (Summit) Week 3 [4,124] Wkd $15.7M, Cume $255.6M
3. Brothers (Relativity/Lionsgate) NEW [2,088] Wkd $9.5M, Cume $9.7M
4. A Christmas Carol (Disney) Week 5 [2,456] Wkd $7.5M, Cume $115M
5. Old Dogs (Disney) Week 2 [3,425] Wkd $6.9M, Cume $33.9M
6. Armored (Sony) NEW [1,914] Wkd $6.6M  
7. 2012 (Sony) Week 4 [3,220] Wkd $6.6M, Cume $148.7M
8. Ninja Assassin (Warner Bros) Week 2 [2,503] Wkd $5M, Cume $29.7M
9. Planet 51 (Ilion/Sony) Week 3 [2,904] Wkd $4.3M, Cume $33.9M
10. Everybody's Fine (Radar/Miramax) NEW [2,133] Wkd $4M
post #1274 of 1466
Thread Starter 
Weekend Estimates

#1 "The Blind Side" $20.4 million ($129.3 million) -49%
#2 "The Twilight Saga: New Moon" $15.7 million ($255.6 million) -63%
#3 "Brothers" $9.7 million
#4 "A Christmas Carol" $7.5 million ($115.0 million) -52%
#5 "Old Dogs" $6.9 million ($33.9 million) -59%
#6 "2012" $6.6 million ($148.8 million) -63%
#7 "Armored" $6.6 million
#8 "Ninja Assassin" $5.0 million ($29.8 million) -62%
#9 "Planet 51" $4.3 million ($34.0 million) -58%
#10 "Everybody's Fine" $4.0 million
#11 "The Fantastic Mr. Fox" $2.9 million ($14.1 million) -59%
#12 "Precious: Based on the Novel 'Push' by Sapphire" $2.3 million ($35.3 million) -67%

Despite most of last weekend's holdovers dropping more than half of their business from the holiday frame last week (which is usual in the weekend following Thanksgiving), business was still up 20% from last year, as well as being an even more impressive 29% compared to this frame in '07.  Moviegoers spent $92 million on the top 12 films this weekend, marking the biggest first-weekend haul ever for the month of December.  This is fantastic news for the studios coming off of what was the biggest November haul ($989.2 million) that the industry has ever had.  Admissions came in the fourth best ever for the month, on top of having the best ticket sales for any November during the last six years.

For 2009, domestic ticket sales grew to an astounding $9.654 billion.  We're in the first week of December and this year's total has already nearly matched that of all of last year ($9.680 billion).  This year's $9.654 billion total represents an 8% increase from last year ($8.926 billion), up 10% from '07 ($8.751 billion), 15% stronger than '06 ($8.385 billion), and a 20% improvement over '05 ($8.033 billion).  Overall theater admission numbers are estimated to be 1.345 billion, representing the strongest numbers since 2004.

After spending the previous two weeks in the #2 slot, WB's "The Blind Side" ascended to the top position this weekend as it was the only holdover in the top 12 not to lose more than 50% of its business from last week (it was off by 49%).  The movie, which is now garnering Oscar buzz for star Sandra Bullock, has now tallied just over $129 million and the studio now believes that the film has a very good shot at ultimately topping the double-century mark domestically.  'Blind Side' is benefiting greatly from terrific word-of-mouth on top of very solid overall reviews.  With a production budget of only $29 million, this one will end up being one of the studio's most profitable movies.

Dropping to the second position this weekend is Summit's 'New Moon'.  The sequel was off a steep 63%, but has so far earned $255.6 million.  The film has been making a killing overseas as it has now earned $314.5 million, giving it a global mark of just over $570 million.  The movie cost the studio only $50 million make ($65-$70 million counting marketing costs) and will end up earning well over $600 million worldwide for the studio.  With stars Kristen Stewart, Robert Pattinson, and Taylor Lautner negotiating their deals for the final film(s) of the series ("Breaking Dawn") as a group, look for them to receive extremely lucrative contracts.

Lionsgate's "Brothers" got off to a good start as it debuted with just under $10 million, giving it a decent per-theater average of $4,646 from its 2,088 locations.  The studio is hoping the film's Oscar buzz will carry it through the holiday season.  Disney's "A Christmas Carol" has now tallied $115 million.  Disney's "Old Dogs" was off by 59% this weekend as its total now stands just shy of $34 million.  A final domestic mark in the neighborhood of $55-$60 million is now expected.  Sony's "2012" is now just days away from passing the $150 million plateau.  It has now earned $148.8 million.

Sony's "Armored" got off to a decent enough start as it pulled in $6.6 million, giving an average of $3,446 from its 1,915 theaters.  The movie isn't expected to have the strongest of legs in the coming weeks.  WB's "Ninja Assassin" continues to under-perform as it has only managed close to $30 million since its release.  The same goes for Sony's "Planet 51" which is currently sitting on a domestic mark of $34 million.  Miramax's "Everybody's Fine" crashed and burned with audiences this weekend as it managed a soft haul of $4 million, giving it a per-theater average of only $1,888 from its 2,133 theaters.

Fox's "The Fantastic Mr. Fox" has only tallied $14.1 million since its release, while Lionsgate's Oscar hopeful, 'Precious', has now pulled in more than $36 million.  Not bad for a movie that cost only $10 million to make.  Paramount's Oscar hopeful "Up in the Air" debuted in the 13th slot this weekend as it pulled in $1.2 million from only 15 theaters.  That translates to a stellar average of $77,333.  Of star George Clooney's three films this year, "Up in the Air" will no doubt be the lone hit among them.  The film is also garnering a lot of Oscar buzz for Clooney as well.

Disney's "The Princess and the Frog" continues to earn crazy dollars from just two theaters.  The film earned $744K this weekend (off by only 5% from last week), giving it a whopping average of $372K.  The movie goes into wide release next weekend.

Other than "The Princess and the Frog", next weekend will see the release of Oscar-winning director/producer Clint Eastwood's latest Oscar touted film, "Invictus".  The movie stars Oscar winners Morgan Freeman and Matt Damon.  Both are earning Oscar buzz for their respective performances. 

While "The Blind Side" will no doubt continue to have strong legs, the top spot next weekend will very likely go to "The Princess and the Frog".  The studio is hoping for an opening mark well north of the $30 million mark.
post #1275 of 1466

Nothing against The Blind Side but if it was able to become number 1 after being out for two weeks, it sure seems like they should have opened some more movies this weekend. I would imagine that Paramount is kinda kicking themselves for not have a wide opening Up In The Air this weekend.

post #1276 of 1466
Thread Starter 
I agree with you, this was the ideal time to open "Up in the Air" wide.
post #1277 of 1466

I'm still not sure what's going on with The Road.  Is this going to be a wide release or not?

post #1278 of 1466
i was surprised to see boondock saints 2 was actually playing here this weekend. hopefully it lasts until next weekend and i'll get time to see it.
post #1279 of 1466
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Originally Posted by Steve_Tk View Post

I'm still not sure what's going on with The Road.  Is this going to be a wide release or not?


"The Road" has so far done pretty solid business in limited release, if this trend continues than Weinstein/Dimention will continue to roll it out slowly.  This past weekend saw the movie earn $760K from 128 theaters, giving it a very solid average of $5,938.  The movie has tallied $3.2 million in two weeks of limited play.  With all the Oscar buzz surrounding the performance of Viggo Mortensen, the movie should continue to earn steady numbers during the coming weeks.  The film isn't expected to go wide until after Christmas (likely sometime in January), again if it continues to have steady business.
post #1280 of 1466
I'm wondering if Weinsten/Dimension have enough cash on hand to actually push a wide release.
post #1281 of 1466
Thread Starter 
Since the Weinsteins no longer have the resources they did when they were running Miramax, they have to be extremely picky about the movies they push into wide release.  This is also why you see the Weinsteins often teaming with other studios to get their films launched to begin with.  If "The Road" continues to do well in limited play, it will give them enough juice to ultimately expand it probably no more than 1,200 locations.  Again, the determining factor will be if the movie does very well in its limited engagements. 
post #1282 of 1466
ooh i was just cruising by imdb when i noticed what's opening this Friday!!! we have so got to talk about that:
-Princess & The Frog. most of the huge Disney fans i know aren't going to watch this no matter what color they are, black, white, green, purple, etc. em, what's the box office expectation for this? seems like Disney is doing it just for the sake of doing it but not really investing in the storyline (which from the previews seem stupid). i'm both excited because w/Pixar basically running Disney these days, i am expecting great things from all the Disney business units, but disappointed in that maybe these are things already in the pipeline before the Pixar takeover? anyway, i predict $30mil to 40 at most, now i know that i shouldn't under-estimate families cause they are HUGE market too, but even they are kind of taking a backseat towards this =P. wouldn't surprise me if this was more 15-30mil picture.

-Invictus, sounds interesting but i think people are tired of Clint Eastwood winning the awards ;). so i dont think he'll grab anymore, but box office-wise, i'm thinking 10ish? maybe 20?

-The Lovely Bones, i don't watch TV but are they running a ton of ads for this? while LOTR was great and the Hobbit is highly touted, King Kong didn't have great reviews. dunno if fans are ready for a 'serious' Peter Jackson yet (so to speak). pegging this @around 30mil. if family shows up, then Princess&Frog wins, if not, then Lovely Bones will win. by how much is the X factor.

ok also, next Friday is AVATAR!!! =D i'm so excited!!!! =D what's the box office expectations? 40mil? 70 mil? 100mil for 3 day weekend?
post #1283 of 1466
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Originally Posted by JediFonger View Post

ooh i was just cruising by imdb when i noticed what's opening this Friday!!! we have so got to talk about that:
-Princess & The Frog. most of the huge Disney fans i know aren't going to watch this no matter what color they are, black, white, green, purple, etc. em, what's the box office expectation for this? seems like Disney is doing it just for the sake of doing it but not really investing in the storyline (which from the previews seem stupid). i'm both excited because w/Pixar basically running Disney these days, i am expecting great things from all the Disney business units, but disappointed in that maybe these are things already in the pipeline before the Pixar takeover? anyway, i predict $30mil to 40 at most, now i know that i shouldn't under-estimate families cause they are HUGE market too, but even they are kind of taking a backseat towards this =P. wouldn't surprise me if this was more 15-30mil picture.

-Invictus, sounds interesting but i think people are tired of Clint Eastwood winning the awards ;). so i dont think he'll grab anymore, but box office-wise, i'm thinking 10ish? maybe 20?

-The Lovely Bones, i don't watch TV but are they running a ton of ads for this? while LOTR was great and the Hobbit is highly touted, King Kong didn't have great reviews. dunno if fans are ready for a 'serious' Peter Jackson yet (so to speak). pegging this @around 30mil. if family shows up, then Princess&Frog wins, if not, then Lovely Bones will win. by how much is the X factor.

ok also, next Friday is AVATAR!!! =D i'm so excited!!!! =D what's the box office expectations? 40mil? 70 mil? 100mil for 3 day weekend?

I thought most of the Disney fans will see The Princess and the Frog, if only for the fact that it's a new hand drawn animated movie. Since Lasseter is behind it, I'm sure it will be good too. Not to forget Ron Clements and John Musker, the minds behind The Little Mermaid and Hercules. If it's really good, it might spark a new era, so to speak. Hopefully Disney can put out other things than fairy tales too. We've seen those enough, I think.

 

Peter Jackson already showed he can be serious with Heavenly Creatures. The Lovely Bones seems like a return to a similar kind of movie, and I hope it will be at least as good as that one.

post #1284 of 1466
I expect The Princess and the Frog to do quite well.  It looks pretty good, the times I've seen the trailer in a theater it has been well received, it is getting good reviews and it is a G rated kids film during the holiday season when kids are out of school.  And as Brian pointed out it does have a pretty strong pedigree.
post #1285 of 1466
^ Also in The Princess And The Frog's favor is that there's almost no kids movie competition right now.
post #1286 of 1466
I'm beginning to think that "The Princess and The Frog" might be better than I thought it would be after seeing a few more clips from the movie. It's too bad they revealed the story's twist in the trailer, but that is par for the course in trailers today. The people making them have zero sense of mystery. I think the film will do better than average since there are no other general audience films competing against it.

I disagree with Jedifonger's assertion that Disney fans will stay away from this film. I think Disney fans have been waiting a long time for Disney to return to the "2D" arena. There are going to be a lot of fans going to this film just in order to see some good old fashioned character animation. In fact, my one complaint about the animation is that they haven't gone far enough in returning to hand drawn animation. There is still too much CG animation in the film. I would like to see them go back and do everything by hand. The backgrounds, the minor characters.....all of it.
post #1287 of 1466
i dont think Disney fans think like that >P. it'll do well box office-wise because of family! if there are no family market, it will pretty much fail =P. but i bet tehre's pent-up family film need... unless they are ALL shopping... so much more shoppers@retail i've seen than usual in Dec.
post #1288 of 1466
^^^^^

What kind of "Disney fan" would not anticipate a new Disney animated feature? Especially a feature that returns to the "Disney look" of traditional cel animated art. "Disney fans" stating their intention to avoid this picture aren't fans in my book. I've seen every theatrically released Disney animated feature in the theater at least once and sometimes more: even the one that was the nadir of Disney
feature animation: The Black Cauldron.  
post #1289 of 1466
Jedi Fonger said:

King Kong didn't have great reviews.

Actually, it did have great reviews. 83% Positive at www.rottentomatoes.com
post #1290 of 1466
lol@rottentomatoes... or imdb ;).

ok seriously... +P what is the estimated $ for this weekend?
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