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post #1111 of 1466
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Thank you very much for the compliment.

As for the TS double feature, the grosses will be added to the lifetime hauls of both films, likely putting TS1 over the double century mark domestically, and pushing TS2 past the $250 million plateau.  As of now, TS1 made $191.8 million (1995 dollars), while TS2 is currently sitting on a domestic haul of $245.9 million (1999 dollars).

After ten films from Pixar, TS2 remains the second most successful feature from the studio in terms of theater admissions, selling 48.4 million tickets.  It only trails the 56.3 million admissions sold by "Finding Nemo".
post #1112 of 1466
speaking ofthe toystory double feature, is there a site anywhere showing what theaters are playing it?
post #1113 of 1466
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Originally Posted by Shane D View Post

speaking ofthe toystory double feature, is there a site anywhere showing what theaters are playing it?
 


http://www.toystory.com has a "Get Tickets" section but it doesn't list any show times for my area yet. That being said, I'd imagine (but could be wrong) that nearly every theater that has a 3-D screen is going to be playing it.
post #1114 of 1466
I saw a trailer for "Toy Story 3D" in front of "9". There is something amusing watching a trailer for gimmicky 3D "popout" events in a 2D theater and having the knowledge that you will not be able to see the film in 3D. Somehow, for me, the trailer demonstrated how filming in 3D or converting existing films to 3D is ruining movie making. I have seen several 2D versions of 3D films and almost every one has some sort of lame duck "popout" event that exists only for "flash" and serves no actual useful purpose in moving the story forward. In the 2D versions those scenes invariably stick out like sore thumbs, signaling their lack of usefulness and their utter artifice.'
post #1115 of 1466


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Originally Posted by Edwin-S View Post

I saw a trailer for "Toy Story 3D" in front of "9". There is something amusing watching a trailer for gimmicky 3D "popout" events in a 2D theater and having the knowledge that you will not be able to see the film in 3D. Somehow, for me, the trailer demonstrated how filming in 3D or converting existing films to 3D is ruining movie making. I have seen several 2D versions of 3D films and almost every one has some sort of lame duck "popout" event that exists only for "flash" and serves no actual useful purpose in moving the story forward. In the 2D versions those scenes invariably stick out like sore thumbs, signaling their lack of usefulness and their utter artifice.'

How would existing films converted to 3D, like the Toy Stories, cause this? They won't have any "popout" moments because they weren't made with that in mind.

post #1116 of 1466
plus, Up didn't have those 3-D gimmicks, it actually improved the story (when they were having adventures it was more dimensional than when they weren't, etc.).

BTW Fandango has tix too, FYI*.
post #1117 of 1466
1950's 3D movies did the "popout" gags too, (Monsters Vs. Aliens paid homage to them) yet I can still enjoy Creature from the Black Lagoon and it's sequel in two dimensions. ;)
post #1118 of 1466
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Friday Estimates

#1 "Zombieland" $9.4 million
#2 "Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs" $3.7 million ($69.4 million) 34% Friday-to-Friday drop
#3 "Toy Story"/"Toy Story 2" 3D $3.2 million
#4 "The Invention of Lying" $2.5 million
#5 "Surrogates" $2.2 million ($21.3 million) 56% Friday-to-Friday drop
#6 "Whip It" $1.6 million
#7 "Capitalism: A Love Story" $1.5 million ($1.9 million) 2,338% Friday-to-Friday increase
#8 "Fame" $1.5 million ($13.3 million) 59% Friday-to-Friday drop
#9 "The Informant!" $1.1 million ($23.9 million) 45% Friday-to-Friday drop
#10 "Love Happens" $900K ($17.0 million) 38% Friday-to-Friday drop
post #1119 of 1466
http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/freakishly-good-gross-for-paranormal-activity/
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 This doesn't happen that often, so I don't blame Paramount for crowing about its freakishly good numbers for Paranormal Activity, which will do $500K this weekend on 33 screens playing ONLY after midnight. That's a $15K screen average for midnight business. Yikes! It did $150K Thursday and took in another $200K on Friday after selling out every theater. The pic was originally acquired by Paramount bigwig Adam Goodman back when he was at DreamWorks to remake it. (The hype is that Steven Spielberg was so freaked out when he first saw it that he returned it to DreamWorks in a garbage bag...) Then Paramount had a preview, and the movie played well, so the studio was looking for an approach to release it. What began as a heavy screening plan and college outreach to get fans to make it their own morphed last week into a release in 12 college towns doing only midnight shows. Some $80K business later, Paramount added 21 midnight screens this week, including LA's ArcLight (which sold out its 15 midnight shows for Thursday, Friday, and Saturday combined). "It's a little movie that's scaring peoples brains out," a studio exec emailed me. Plus, it's got 93% positive reviews on Rotten Tomatoes. I gotta say, that TV ad campaign is effective, too. Next week, Paranormal Activity will expand to somewhere around 100 screens playing full day schedules. It will be interesting to see how big the overall fan base is after the college Facebook Twitter folks have really embraced this film and made it their own.

 


It deserves the success. The best horror film I've seen in a very long time and likely to top my end of the year list.
post #1120 of 1466
If my crowd tonight was any indication, Zombieland could top out over $30 million for this weekend. The theater was packed and everybody seemed to be loving it. One of the biggest crowd pleasers of the year.
post #1121 of 1466
I wish Whip it were doing better, the film is awesome but seems as though it'll become a cult classic rather than a box office phenom.


that's a nice number for the toy story films, though three hours was a long time to sit and watch the Toy Story movies.  the 3D was very very subtle, nice for dimensionalizing it, but I imagine people are going to be mostly disappointed that the 3D was just a gmmick to get them to buy an inflated ticket.  I also was unimpressed by how it affected the movies, they seemed darker, a hair duller, and less clear.   I remember much richer and vaster detail in the film print on toy story 2 I saw opening weekend (and I'm thinking of specific instances of details I noted at the time because the detail was so impressive at the time, stuff you couldn't see so well on home video and you can't see so well in the digitial presentation, for example cheetoh crumbs on Al's chest when Woody's trying to get his arm, or how Jessi's hair really looked like yarn, whereas it looks more cgi-ish now).
post #1122 of 1466
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Weekend Estimates

#1 "Zombieland" $25.0 million
#2 "Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs" $16.7 million ($82.4 million) -33%
#3 "Toy Story"/"Toy Story 2" 3D $12.5 million ($204.3 million/$258.4 million)
#4 "The Invention of Lying" $7.4 million
#5 "Surrogates" $7.3 million ($26.4 million) -51%
#6 "Capitalism: A Love Story" $4.9 million ($5.3 million) +1,991%
#7 "Whip It" $4.9 million
#8 "Fame" $4.8 million ($16.6 million) -53%
#9 "The Informant!" $3.8 million ($26.6 million) -43%
#10 "Love Happens" $2.8 million ($18.9 million) -36%
#11 "Tyler Perry's I Can Do Bad All By Myself" $2.7 million ($48.4 million) -44%
#12 "Pandorum" $1.9 million ($7.8 million) -57%

After enduring the least successful month of the year, the studios enjoyed a solid session at the box office this weekend.  Business was only off about 1% compared to last year, but was up an impressive 42% compared to this frame in '07.  2009's massive year-to-date domestic tally now stands at $7.952 billion, representing 7% increases over both last year ($7.424 billion) and '07 ($7.423 billion), 15% stronger than '06 ($6.941 billion), and a 20% improvement over '05 ($6.607 billion).

Sony's "Zombieland" got out of the gates with a very strong haul of $25 million.  The horror/comedy cost only about $24 million to make and gave star Woody Harrelson the biggest opening of his career.  The movie earned a solid per-theater average of $8,235 from its 3,036 locations, which was easily the best of the top 12.  Even if the movie has short legs in theaters it has proven to be instantly popular and don't be surprised if the studio decides to produce a sequel.

Sony also took the second slot as "Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs" continues to pack theaters.  The move was off by only 33% this weekend and has so far tallied more than $82 million.  The studio, which has taken the top spot at the box office for three weeks in a row, is expected a final domestic haul in the neighborhood of $120-$125 million.

Pixar/Disney's relaunch of the two 'Toy Story' flicks (in 3D) brought in $12.5 million, giving the films lifetime domestic grosses of $204.3 million and $258.4 million respectively.  The limited run was used to promote next summer's "Toy Story 3", which will also be presented in 3D.

WB's "The Invention of Lying" got off to a decent start as it pulled in more than $7 million, giving it a decent $4,306 per-theater average from its 1,707 locations.  Disney's "Surrogates" lost 51% of its business from last week and has now tallied $26.4 million.  Overture's "Capitalism: A Love Story" and Fox Searchlight's "Whip It" both earned $4.9 million this weekend.  'Capitalism', the latest from documentary film-maker Michael Moore, earned a solid average of $5,042 from its modest 962 theaters, while Whip It" was D.O.A. with only a $2,820 average from 1,720 theaters. 

Next weekend will see only one wide release hitting theaters, Universal's "Couples Retreat".  With a cast headed by Vince Vaughn and Jason Bateman, this one is expected to have little difficulty in topping the box office next week. 
post #1123 of 1466
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Originally Posted by TerryRL View Post

...while Whip It" was D.O.A. with only a $2,820 average from 1,720 theaters. 


That's a shame. I thought it was a pretty good little movie.
post #1124 of 1466
I was interested in seeing "Whip It" but I couldn't find a theater near me showing it
post #1125 of 1466
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I was interested in seeing "Whip It" but I couldn't find a theater near me showing it
 


I had to go to a theater that is farther away (a little under 10 miles) than my usual theaters to catch it. I guess that's due to it being on 1,720 screens while Zombieland, for example, had 3,036 screens.
post #1126 of 1466
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Friday Estimates

#1 "Couples Retreat" $12.3 million
#2 "Zombieland" $4.8 million ($37.6 million) 50% Friday-to-Friday drop
#3 "Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs" $3.1 million ($87.4 million) 15% Friday-to-Friday drop
#4 "Paranormal Activity" $2.5 million ($3.8 million) 1,148% Friday-to-Friday increase (currently playing in only 159 theaters!)
#5 "Toy Story"/"Toy Story 2" 3D $2.0 million ($17.0 million) 39% Friday-to-Friday drop
#6 "Surrogates" $1.3 million ($29.7 million) 43% Friday-to-Friday drop
#7 "The Invention of Lying" $1.1 million ($10.0 million) 57% Friday-to-Friday drop
#8 "Whip It" $890K ($6.9 million) 44% Friday-to-Friday drop
#9 "Fame" $780K ($18.3 million) 46% Friday-to-Friday drop
#10 "Capitalism: A Love Story" $760K ($7.2 million) 49% Friday-to-Friday drop
#11 "The Informant!" $660K ($28.3 million) 42% Friday-to-Friday drop
#12 "Love Happens" $474K ($20.3 million) 48% Friday-to-Friday drop
post #1127 of 1466
I hope this gets Pixar doing more rereleases. I don't necessarily need the 3D though.  But, for example, a rerelease in late february early march of this year of Pinocchio and Snow White as a double feature would have been a great idea, imo.  hopefully next year we'll see a double feature of Monsters Inc and Nemo.  :D
post #1128 of 1466
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Weekend Estimates

#1 "Couples Retreat" $35.3 million
#2 "Zombieland" $15.0 million ($47.8 million) -39%
#3 "Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs" $12.0 million ($96.3 million) -24%
#4 "Toy Story"/"Toy Story 2" 3D $7.7 million ($22.7 million) -39%
#5 "Paranormal Activity" $7.1 million ($8.3 million) +1,228%
#6 "Surrogates" $4.1 million ($32.6 million) -43%
#7 "The Invention of Lying" $3.4 million ($12.3 million) -52%
#8 "Whip It" $2.8 million ($8.8 million) -40%
#9 "Capitalism: A Love Story" $2.7 million ($9.1 million) -39%
#10 "Fame" $2.6 million ($20.0 million) -45%
#11 "The Informant!" $2.2 million ($29.9 million) -40%
#12 "Tyler Perry's I Can Do Bad All By Myself" $1.5 million ($50.4 million) -41%

Moviegoers spent more than $96 million on the top 12 films this weekend, marking a 14% increase from last year, as well as a 15% bump compared to this frame in '07.  2009's impressive year-to-date domestic tally now stands at $8.089 billion, marking the fastest time in history that a year has passed the $8 billion plateau.  '09 now owns every billion-dollar speed record for a single year.  The $8.089 billion haul marks 7% increases over both last year ($7.560 billion) and '07 ($7.538 billion), up 14% over '06 ($7.088 billion), and 20% stronger than '05 ($6.745 billion).

Universal's "Couples Retreat" easily topped the box office this weekend as it got out of the gates with more than $35 million.  The comedy earned the sixth biggest October opening in history, trailing "Scary Movie 3" ($48.1 million), "Shark Tale" ($47.6 million), "High School Musical 3: Senior Year" ($42.0 million), "The Grudge" ($39.1 million), and "Red Dragon" ($36.5 million).  The $35.3 million launch gave star Vince Vaughn the second biggest opening of his career in a headlining role (behind the $39.2 million debut of "The Break-Up").  The comedy wasn't expected to open as large as it did and the studio was (very) pleasantly surprised by this weekend's results.  The film earned a stellar average of $11,780 from its 3,000 theaters, which was the second best of the top 12.  The studio is optimistic that the movie can end its run north of the century mark.

Sony's "Zombieland" was second this weekend as it took a very moderate 39% dip in business.  The movie has so far tallied $47.8 million and looks headed for a final haul in the neighborhood of $90-$100 million.  Sony also took the third slot as their animated hit "Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs" continued to pack theaters, suffering only a 24% decline.  The movie has now earned more than $96 million and the studio now expects it to top out north of the $150 million mark.  Pixar/Disney's "Toy Story"/"Toy Story 2" 3D reissues have now earned just under $23 million, giving the flicks lifetime tallies of $214.5 million ("Toy Story") and $268.6 million ("Toy Story 2") respectively.

Paramount's sleeper hit "Paranormal Activity" expanded to 159 theaters (from just 33 last week) and pulled in more than $7 million, giving the movie a whopping per-theater average of $44,440.  The horror flick will expand to several hundred more theaters next weekend.

Next weekend will see the releases of WB's "Where the Wild Things Are", Sony's "The Stepfather", and Overture Films' "Law Abiding Citizen".  It'll be a major shock if "Where the Wild Things Are" doesn't take the top spot at the box office.
post #1129 of 1466
Given nothing but what I saw at my local theater, I'm guessing that Where The Wild Things Are is going to have a very good weekend.
post #1130 of 1466
Thread Starter 
Friday Estimates

#1 "Where the Wild Things Are" $11.9 million
#2 "Law Abiding Citizen" $7.7 million
#3 "Paranormal Activity" $6.7 million ($20.2 million) 150% Friday-to-Friday increase (in a very modest 760 theaters)
#4 "Couples Retreat" $5.8 million ($51.2 million) 53% Friday-to-Friday drop
#5 "The Stepfather" $4.3 million
#6 "Zombieland" $2.4 million ($55.4 million) 50% Friday-to-Friday drop
#7 "Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs" $2.1 million ($102.3 million) 32% Friday-to-Friday drop
#8 "Toy Story"/"Toy Story 2" 3D $825K ($26.4 million) 59% Friday-to-Friday drop
#9 "The Invention of Lying" $605K ($14.2 million) 44% Friday-to-Friday drop
#10 "Surrogates" $585K ($35.0 million) 54% Friday-to-Friday drop
#11 "Whip It" $475K ($10.3 million) 47% Friday-to-Friday drop
#12 "Capitalism: A Love Story" $410K ($10.6 million) 47% Friday-to-Friday drop
post #1131 of 1466
I've very happy with Where the Wild Thing's Are's Friday gross and hope that carries over for a strong weekend. I was worried people wouldn't get the movie.
post #1132 of 1466
A promising Friday for a very good film.
post #1133 of 1466
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I've very happy with Where the Wild Thing's Are's Friday gross and hope that carries over for a strong weekend. I was worried people wouldn't get the movie.
 


I think next weekend will tell how well people responded to the movie. I could tell when I saw it that many people thought they were supposed to be seeing a feel good kids movie and they got a semi-depressing movie about a kid instead.
post #1134 of 1466
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Weekend Estimates

#1 "Where the Wild Things Are" $32.5 million
#2 "Law Abiding Citizen" $21.3 million
#3 "Paranormal Activity" $20.2 million ($33.7 million) +155%
#4 "Couples Retreat" $17.9 million ($63.3 million) -48%
#5 "The Stepfather" $12.3 million
#6 "Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs" $8.1 million ($108.3 million) -30%
#7 "Zombieland" $7.8 million ($60.8 million) -47%
#8 "Toy Story"/"Toy Story 2" 3D $3.0 million ($28.6 million) -61%
#9 "Surrogates" $1.922 million ($36.3 million) -55%
#10 "The Invention of Lying" $1.905 million ($15.5 million) -43%
#11 "Whip It" $1.5 million ($11.4 million) -46%
#12 "Capitalism: A Love Story" $1.4 million ($11.6 million) -46%

The industry enjoyed the biggest weekend haul the month of October has ever seen as nearly $130 million alone was spent on the top 12 films at the box office.  That was a 59% improvement over last year, as well as a whopping 75% stronger than this frame in '07.  2009's massive year-to-date domestic total now stands at $8.272 billion, marking a 7% bump over last year ($7.700 billion), up 8% compared to '07 ($7.669 billion), 14% stronger than '06 ($7.229 billion), and 21% stronger than '05 ($6.862 billion).

WB's "Where the Wild Things Are" earned the eighth biggest opening weekend mark ever for the month of October as the film pulled in $32.5 million.  The family flick earned a sturdy average of $8,693 from its 3,735 locations this week, which was the second best of the top 12.  With exit polls registering a solid B+ grade from moviegoers, the studio is very confident that this one will ultimately find its way on to this year's $100 million club.

Overture's "Law Abiding Citizen" got off to a much stronger start than anticipated as it pulled in more than $21 million, giving the studio the strongest debut they've ever had.  Reviews were extremely poor and this one may not end up having solid legs. 

Paramount's "Paranormal Activity" has turned into a phenom.  The movie expanded to 600 more theaters this weekend and earned just over $20 million, giving it a staggering per-theater average of $26,530 from its still modest 760 locations.  The movie's 155% increase was also the best of the top 30 films in theaters right now.  At a cost of only 15K, the studio is reaping major scratch from this one.  The movie will expand to about 2,000 theaters next weekend, with plans to go even wider on Halloween.  With nearly $34 million in the bank thus far, the movie looks headed for a final haul north of the century mark.

Universal's "Couples Retreat" was off a moderate 48% and has so far tallied just over $63 million.  Look for this one to top out with more than $100 million.  Sony's "The Stepfather" debuted with $12.3 million, earning a decent average of $4,499 from its 2,734 theaters.  This one may end up having very short legs during its theatrical run. 

Next weekend will see Lionsgate's "Saw VI", Summit Entertainment's "Astro Boy", Universal's "Cirque du Freak: The Vampire's Assistant", and Fox Searchlight's Oscar hopeful "Amelia" all hit theaters.  "Saw VI" is the heavy favorite to take the top spot next weekend as it could mark the first time ever the month of October has enjoyed three consecutive weeks where the #1 film topped the $30 million mark.  Also expect "Paranormal Activity" to continue playing to packed theaters as it enters more theaters.
post #1135 of 1466
hi terry,

THANK YOU for continuing to write it up! =). luv it! your analysis is so pro =P. u really should get paid for it somehow... somewhere =P. aren't those sites like variety or holly reporter looking for people like you?

aaanywho, 2 questions (any1 can answer this too):
1. are IMAX screenings added to the reported number of 32.5million for Where The Wild Things Are? just wondering if there are detailed breakdowns somewhere?
2. i just got stumped on another forums somewhere telling me that Boston(the city i live in) is not one of the "top 10" US Markets to release a major hollywood film in, is that true? what is the top 10 US City Markets that indie branches of Hollywood studios release their films? i've always assumed Boston is one of them because it has always been included on the list whenever indies are released or when special "free" screenings are available, Boston is typically on the list, even if there are 5 or 10 cities. is there a link somewhere i can use as proof? i tried googling, but this is one topic that google didn't seem to have an answer for.

thanks =).
post #1136 of 1466
I'm not Terry, but I'll take a crack at your questions:
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1. are IMAX screenings added to the reported number of 32.5million for Where The Wild Things Are? just wondering if there are detailed breakdowns somewhere?

Yes. I can't tell you where to find detailed breakdowns, but IMAX screenings contribute to the total in an oversized way thanks to the premium ticket prices. One of the things that hurt Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince was that there was a sizable delay between when it debuted in conventional theaters and when it finally took over Transformers: ROTF's IMAX screens.
 

2. i just got stumped on another forums somewhere telling me that Boston(the city i live in) is not one of the "top 10" US Markets to release a major hollywood film in, is that true? what is the top 10 US City Markets that indie branches of Hollywood studios release their films? i've always assumed Boston is one of them because it has always been included on the list whenever indies are released or when special "free" screenings are available, Boston is typically on the list, even if there are 5 or 10 cities. is there a link somewhere i can use as proof? i tried googling, but this is one topic that google didn't seem to have an answer for.

The top two markets are, of course, New York and Los Angeles. After that, there is some variation as to where films expand from there. The top ten by population are: 

1. New York
2. Los Angeles
3. Chicago
4. Dallas/Fort Worth
5. Philadelphia
6. Houston
7. Miami
8. Atlanta
9. Washington, DC
10. Boston

 

post #1137 of 1466
Thread Starter 
Jedi, thanks for the compliments.  I really appreciate it.

As for your questions, Adam pretty much summed up everything.  The only thing I would add is that detailed breakdowns of IMAX box office totals of first-run films are held rarely released by studios.  For the most part the box office grosses are counted toward the whole of the eventual gross, which is why studios (for the most part) only release estimates instead of actual dollar totals.  The same goes for films released in 3D.
post #1138 of 1466
I'm sure this has been answered somewhere.  Terry, do you work in this industry or is it just a hobby?  I feel like I've read the answer but forgot, sorry!
post #1139 of 1466
Thread Starter 
Just a hobby.
post #1140 of 1466
thank you Adam!!!

according to the census:
http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/pdf/city_growth_2008a.pdf

1. New York 8,363,710
2. Los Angeles 3,833,995
3. Chicago 2,853,114
4. Houston 2,242,193
5. Phoenix 1,567,924
6. Philadelphia 1,447,395
7. San Antonio 1,351,305
8. Dallas 1,279,910
9. San Diego 1,279,329
10. San Jose 948,279

Boston isn't on that list. it's a bit further down. can som1 link me some sort of figures of why Hollywood would choose a city like Boston to be released vs. San Jose for example.

or maybe they ARE shifting their market/focus? i mean one of the interesting thing is even if Boston isn't on that list of population#, it's still desired because of the # of tickets sold, marketing isn't always # of population by city, it's the # of actual ticket buyer potential too. was looking for documentation online somewhere that specifically speaks to that. speaks to why top10 city is chosen to be opened by Hollywood films. any1? Bueller?

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I'm not Terry, but I'll take a crack at your questions:



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