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Written and directed by Charlie Kaufman.
Starring:
Philip Seymour Hoffman
Catherine Keener
Michelle Williams
Samantha Morton
Hope Davis
Jennifer Jason Leigh
Amy Wright
Emily Watson
Dianne Wiest


With those names attached, would I really have to know more about this film to want to see it?

Not me, I went today.

Take it Michael.

[Of course, it would have been nice to get this in the correct forum. I'm soooooo old. ]
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re: *** Official SYNECDOCHE, NEW YORK (2008) Discussion Thread

I moved the thread from After Hours to the Movies forum.

Anything else?
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*** Official SYNECDOCHE, NEW YORK (2008) Discussion Thread!

How cool is that?

Next: "Choose the Right One".
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Saw V
Never heard of it.

Seriously, I don't know how to discuss Synecdoche. I have yet to read a review, positive or negative, that capture the film's bizarre vibe. I had a sense of what I was getting into from the title, from the trailer and from that wild sequence in Adaptation where the Charlie Kaufmann character is trying to decide where to begin and ends up starting at the very beginning of the world. But even then I wasn't fully prepared for how far the film takes its central premise of a writer so devoted to being "truthful" that he can never finish.

Watching it isn't a comfortable experience. I suspect most people won't like it, if for no other reason than that the end is about as clear as The Sopranos's cut to black.
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Seriously, I don't know how to discuss Synecdoche.

Every time I think about this movie, my head gets jumbled and rambles in different directions. Before seeing it, it was hard to imagine a much more ambitious and sprawling train of thought movie than the previous Kaufman offerings, but that seems like the case with Synecdoche. Descriptions don't help much with this movie, it must be experienced. A few isolated thoughts is all I can do.

-- Caden stages Death of a Salesman with young actors, believing the power of the casting would come from the audiences knowing that the young actors would get beat down by life too. That world view of Caden's turns out to be true of his life. At this point, I think it's safe to say it is Kaufman's view as well.

-- The Chinese-box like map, with three different levels, could have been expanded into infinity. With Sammy and Emily playing Caden and Hazel, they could have been portrayed by another pair of actors as well. Imagine the smaller dome theater having additional dome theaters inside. That would have made the movie really messy.

-- Time passes without any special emphasis. One scene ends, and the next could be 8 years later. It's as if we were meeting an old acquaintance every once in a while, and while we're startled, it's just another day in this long suffering, but gone-in-the-blink-of-an-eye life. I found this feeling to be both true and frightening.

-- The end: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
My view is that Dianne Wiest's character directions to Caden were, in a subconscious way, Caden's own thoughts on how Wiest would have directed him. Caden no longer has the energy to direct the play, and thus no longer has the power to live.
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I am pretty positive the "theme" of this movie is about self-reflection and reflection on the world you live and the existence you happen to inhabit. Kaufman uses many devices -- both played out emotionally and (to my delight) literally.

God I love Charlie Kaufman.

I believe the gist of the movie might be summed up with this quote, to whom I am unsure it is credited:

"It seems that I know that I know. What I would like to see is the eye that knows me when I know that I know that I know."
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any word on when this is wide.
Not showing anywhere that want to travel to right now.
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Originally Posted by TonyD
any word on when this is wide.
Not showing anywhere that want to travel to right now.

This reminds me that I have a friend in South Austin who hates the idea of travelling to North Austin to see a film.
A bit frustrating for me since I drive (or ride the Guzzi) 80 or so miles to go to that theater and don't mind a bit, actually enjoy it on the bike, traffic and all.

Synecdoche, New York is not the sort of movie that "goes wide".
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here in philly it's only on 1 screen.
Even these movies show on at least one other screen out in the suburbs.
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I guess we'll have to wait until this hits DVD to have much of a discussion on one of the best movies of the year. Seems like no one has seen this one. I'm hoping that's because of the limited distribution and not lack of interest.
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cooke
Seems like no one has seen this one. I'm hoping that's because of the limited distribution and not lack of interest.

Everyone who's seen "Synecdoche, New York" recognizes it as the feel good movie of the year.
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Going to see it today!
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Just watched this the other day on BD -- bought used at a bargain price.

 

Guess there hasn't been much discussion here since it got released on BD/DVD either.  Either that or I just did *NOT* get "lucky" w/ the search function (as usual).

 

_Man_

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I think I might've posted in the DVD or BD review thread after I watched it.  I could swear I posted *something* but I don't remember where.

 

Interesting flick.  I think I need to watch it again to really appreciate it, but I'm not sure I'm ready to put in the effort again.  :)
 

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