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post #1 of 55
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I had the opportunity last evening to screen the upcoming release of
24: Redemption, due for broadcast on Fox November 23rd.

I found the two-hour episode to be quite good, namely for the fact
that the show has drifted away from familiar themes and locales and
successfully given us something fresh to watch (or so it seems from
this premier).

As far as locales are concerned, the action takes place in both Africa
and Washington where amidst a presidential inauguration, we find
Jonas Hodges (Jon Voight) supplying arms to an African warlord who
is scooping up children to be part of his army to overthrow the current
government.

Enter Jack Bauer (Keifer Sutherland) who has found himself keeping
a low cover at a boy's orphanage in Sangala Africa that (as you can
guess) falls victim to the warlord's efforts to meet a quota of children
for his army. Suddenly, Jack is forced back into action to defend the
orphanage and get the children safely to the U.S. Embassy.

However, as always, politics come into play as an outgoing President
(Powers Booth) plans to pull troops out of Sangala within moments of
the inauguration of President Elect Allison Taylor (Cherry Jones).

A few thoughts....

Despite new locales and new faces, the production of the show retains
its familiarity with split screen action and counting down clocks. In fact,
for the first time, we are reminded at the opening of the show that all
events occur "in real time."

It was great to see Powers Booth back onboard, though it is uncertain
whether he will continue in the background now that a new female
President is being sworn in. Also back for this round is Tom Lennox
(Peter MacNicol), who we hope will remain loyal to the President he serves.

As for Cherry Jones as President Elect Allison Taylor, I have a very
good feeling about her. She seems to be very down-to-earth and
sincere about her Presidency. I think for the moment, viewers are
going to find themselves very comfortable with her.

None of the other LA CTU characters (such as Chloe) have returned
for this episode. The entire cast was supposedly revamped (as was
the new Washington locale), though it is rumored that Chloe will
eventually be back.

As for Jack Bauer, he whispers and screams throughout, dodging
machine gun fire and knife-burning interrogation. We all know by now
that there is nothing Jack can get into that he can't get himself out of.

All in all, this is a very exciting episode and a grand start to what
we hope will be an edge-of-our-seat season.

Highly recommended watch!
post #2 of 55

Re: A few thoughts about Jack Bauer's return in 24: Redemption

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein
I had the opportunity last evening to screen the upcoming release of
24: Redemption, due for broadcast on Fox November 23rd.

I found the two-hour episode to be quite good, namely for the fact
that the show has drifted away from familiar themes and locales and
successfully given us something fresh to watch (or so it seems from
this premier).

As far as locales are concerned, the action takes place in both Africa
and Washington where amidst a presidential inauguration, we find
Jonas Hodges (Jon Voight) supplying arms to an African warlord who
is scooping up children to be part of his army to overthrow the current
government.

Enter Jack Bauer (Keifer Sutherland) who has found himself keeping
a low cover at a boy's orphanage in Sangala Africa that (as you can
guess) falls victim to the warlord's efforts to meet a quota of children
for his army. Suddenly, Jack is forced back into action to defend the
orphanage and get the children safely to the U.S. Embassy.

However, as always, politics come into play as an outgoing President
(Powers Booth) plans to pull troops out of Sangala within moments of
the inauguration of President Elect Allison Taylor (Cherry Jones).

A few thoughts....

Despite new locales and new faces, the production of the show retains
its familiarity with split screen action and counting down clocks. In fact,
for the first time, we are reminded at the opening of the show that all
events occur "in real time."

It was great to see Powers Booth back onboard, though it is uncertain
whether he will continue in the background now that a new female
President is being sworn in. Also back for this round is Tom Lennox
(Peter MacNicol of PORKY's), who we hope will remain loyal to the
President he serves.

As for Cherry Jones as President Elect Allison Taylor, I have a very
good feeling about her. She seems to be very down-to-earth and
sincere about her Presidency. I think for the moment, viewers are
going to find themselves very comfortable with her.

None of the other LA CTU characters (such as Chloe) have returned
for this episode. The entire cast was supposedly revamped (as was
the new Washington locale), though it is rumored that Chloe will
eventually be back.

As for Jack Bauer, he whispers and screams throughout, dodging
machine gun fire and knife-burning interrogation. We all know by now
that there is nothing Jack can get into that he can't get himself out of.

All in all, this is a very exciting episode and a grand start to what
we hope will be an edge-of-our-seat season.

Highly recommended watch!

Ron supposedly this disk contains extra footage that will not be in the aired version can you comment on what was added? Also it contains the first 14 minutes of the premiere did you see that?
post #3 of 55

Re: A few thoughts about Jack Bauer's return in 24: Redemption

One More thing Ron, have you Heard Anything about a Blu Ray Release of this?
post #4 of 55

Re: A few thoughts about Jack Bauer's return in 24: Redemption

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein
Also back for this round is Tom Lennox
(Peter MacNicol of PORKY's), who we hope will remain loyal to the
President he serves.

Ha-ha-ha! Amused that the one movie Ron ties MacNicol to is Porky's! Like he hasn't done anything else noteworthy since! (Dragonslayer, Ally McBeal, NUMB3RS, etc...)
post #5 of 55

Re: A few thoughts about Jack Bauer's return in 24: Redemption

I think I decided to just watch the DVD via Netflix since it comes out just two days after airing.
post #6 of 55
Thread Starter 

Re: A few thoughts about Jack Bauer's return in 24: Redemption

Stephen,

I don't watch any of those shows, so it was surprising for me that the first time I had seen the actor after all these years was on 24.

Dave,

My screener does not have any of the additional material.
post #7 of 55

Re: A few thoughts about Jack Bauer's return in 24: Redemption

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen Orr
Ha-ha-ha! Amused that the one movie Ron ties MacNicol to is Porky's! Like he hasn't done anything else noteworthy since! (Dragonslayer, Ally McBeal, NUMB3RS, etc...)

I think Ron got Peter MacNicol confused with Dan Monahan.

MacNicol wasn't in PORKYS.
post #8 of 55
Thread Starter 

Re: A few thoughts about Jack Bauer's return in 24: Redemption

Jon,

You are absolutely right. All this time I thought MacNicol was
"Pee Wee" from Porkys. Just checked IMDB and I discovered
that I am indeed mistaken. I mean, they look exactly the same,
don't they?
post #9 of 55

Re: A few thoughts about Jack Bauer's return in 24: Redemption

So is this a stand alone TV movie or the first two hours of a new season?

Is it related to the new season that was supposed to air earlier this year (January) but didn't because of the 2007 writers' strike? Or was all that scrapped and this an entirely new storyline?
post #10 of 55
Thread Starter 

Re: A few thoughts about Jack Bauer's return in 24: Redemption

Sean, this is the first two hours of the new season that
resumes in January.

I think this was an idea that had been floating around for a
long time, and yes, would probably have been similar to what
they would have done in January. The Africa/Washington theme
was talked about right after the end of the last season.
post #11 of 55

Re: A few thoughts about Jack Bauer's return in 24: Redemption

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein
Sean, this is the first two hours of the new season that resumes in January.
Are you serious? So does that mean there's no ending to this "movie"? If that's really the case I'd rather they just air the entire thing starting in January, and will now probably wait to watch it.
post #12 of 55
Thread Starter 

Re: A few thoughts about Jack Bauer's return in 24: Redemption

The idea was to give fans something special early.

Instead of waiting in January for the first episode, you are
given the first two hours of the show early. Honestly, I see
it more of a "plus" than a hindrance.
post #13 of 55

Re: A few thoughts about Jack Bauer's return in 24: Redemption

Wait, I thought this was related to the upcoming season, but isn't part of the 24 hours, so it'd really be these 2 hours plus another 24. (Since at some point Jack would have to fly from Africa to the US.)

And I'd also assume there's a little closure for the immediate story but not for the main overlying theme.
post #14 of 55

Re: A few thoughts about Jack Bauer's return in 24: Redemption

It's a two hour prologue to Season Seven (which will run the usual 24 episodes) but as far as I know, S7 doesn't pick up right where the movie ends. Like Joe said, some time has to elapse for Jack to get back from Africa, etc.

EDIT: Ron, I'm jealous of you getting to see it already.
post #15 of 55

Re: A few thoughts about Jack Bauer's return in 24: Redemption

I've heard very good things about the prequel movie and season 7 from various outlets so it looks like S6 was just a "speed bump" that most good shows run into if they stay on the air long enough. I can't wait for the movie and the new season, it will be awesome to have Jack back.
post #16 of 55

Re: A few thoughts about Jack Bauer's return in 24: Redemption

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Originally Posted by Brent M
I've heard very good things about the prequel movie and season 7 from various outlets so it looks like S6 was just a "speed bump" that most good shows run into if they stay on the air long enough. I can't wait for the movie and the new season, it will be awesome to have Jack back.
Frankly, I haven't been that impressed since season 3...but I keep watching...and I'll be watching in January...
post #17 of 55

Re: A few thoughts about Jack Bauer's return in 24: Redemption

You thought S3 was better than S4 or S5? Not that you can't but I've never seen anyone say that before.
post #18 of 55

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Originally Posted by TravisR
You thought S3 was better than S4 or S5? Not that you can't but I've never seen anyone say that before.
I have always been of the opinion that every season was progressively worse than the previous one. But I watched the first 4 seasons back to back on DVD in the span of a couple months, so I've always said it's possible my opinion was influenced by that. I've always also suggested the possibility that if I watched them in a different order I would feel the same way (that they each got progressively worse, but in the order that I watched them in). The seasons to me have all been too much of the same stuff...and it's getting old. Hopefully they made an effort to try something different this time around. So far I'm encouraged by what I'm hearing.
post #19 of 55

Re: A few thoughts about Jack Bauer's return in 24: Redemption

Quote:
Originally Posted by TravisR
You thought S3 was better than S4 or S5? Not that you can't but I've never seen anyone say that before.
I've said it many times in the old 24 threads. S3 was always my favorite, with S2 being my least favorite.
post #20 of 55

Re: A few thoughts about Jack Bauer's return in 24: Redemption

I can't imagine S7 being worse than S6.

BTW - I liked S4 (my all-time fav of 24) and S5 more than S3..in any case I like all of the first five seasons. Here's hoping S7 gets things back on track...
post #21 of 55

Re: A few thoughts about Jack Bauer's return in 24: Redemption

S4 slightly nudges S2 as my favorite year. The threats in S4 are always interesting (albeit the number of them is off the wall) and I loved the new characters like Audrey, Buchanan and Edgar and the returns of Tony, Michelle and Palmer throughout the day. S2 was still really cool though.
post #22 of 55

Re: A few thoughts about Jack Bauer's return in 24: Redemption

I thought seasons 4 and 5 were as good or better than the show had ever been. While S6 is easily the worst season of the show, I always thought S3 was the next weakest. Something about that season just didn't work for me at all.
post #23 of 55
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Re: A few thoughts about Jack Bauer's return in 24: Redemption

I had to go back to my boxed sets for reference, but easily,
24 was riding its highest during Season 5 with President
Logan. The actress who played First Lady did an amazing job.
Also have a soft spot for the security guy that eventually married her.

Season 6 was a complete dud.
post #24 of 55

Re: A few thoughts about Jack Bauer's return in 24: Redemption

Season one was by far the best - fresh and intense, and much more "real" than everything that would follow it.
post #25 of 55

Re: A few thoughts about Jack Bauer's return in 24: Redemption

I am tempted to say Season 1 was the best because that's what immediately comes to mind, but even though it was fresh and new, I remember making some eyeroll comments about S1 when I watched on DVD (I didn't watch the airing) and being told the episodes above 13 were what happened when they were picked up for the full year (it could have ended at Episode 13). I'm not clear enough on each season to say which was best. Let's just say S1 is a "First Love" -- warts and all. Amnesia? Amnesia?
post #26 of 55

Re: A few thoughts about Jack Bauer's return in 24: Redemption

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein
I had to go back to my boxed sets for reference, but easily,
24 was riding its highest during Season 5 with President
Logan. The actress who played First Lady did an amazing job.
Also have a soft spot for the security guy that eventually married her.

Season 6 was a complete dud.

Agreed entirely on both counts.

What season 5 and season 1 had in common that I liked, is that they were very personal for Jack. Where the show has stumbled is in trying to come up with bigger and bigger crises to handle, in my opinion.
post #27 of 55

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The whole story arc in Season 4 with the Arraz family made it so compelling. This twisted family/terror cell operating as a separate story line, then having them tagged to the larger conspiracy by CTU later in the season - just brilliant plot management.

I loved the Logan stuff in Season 5, but I drop it a notch because it was pegging out on the improbability scale - still very entertaining and great acting, especially by "the Logans."
post #28 of 55

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Any season is better than the one that contains "Magical" Marwan
post #29 of 55

Re: A few thoughts about Jack Bauer's return in 24: Redemption

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brent M
I thought seasons 4 and 5 were as good or better than the show had ever been. While S6 is easily the worst season of the show, I always thought S3 was the next weakest. Something about that season just didn't work for me at all.

My problem with Season 3 was that I could never get over the fact that it didn't follow up Season 2. They had this big setup with Palmer getting poisoned only to cop out with that "3 Years Later" crap.

At least Season 4 got me my fix of Naked Mandy.
post #30 of 55

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I thought this was pretty good, though its much easier to impress for two hours than for a whole season of TV.

One thing that surprised me in a good way is how little action there really is. I sort of expected it to be all action the whole time. The fact that they didn't and still pulled it off raises my hopes some for the show, since obviously they can't have all action for 24 straight hours either.

It still felt like a TV show rather than a movie, which is fine with me anyway. It was good , but not amazing or anything. Hopefully they'll only improve when the show comes on.
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