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post #31 of 64

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Originally Posted by Pete-D
If anything though this "remake" would likely get kids to go back and watch the originals on DVD,

Isn't it sad that that's what it takes, though?
post #32 of 64

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Originally Posted by Joe Karlosi
Isn't it sad that that's what it takes, though?

Well yes and no. I'm sure older generations probably would look at us as kids and shake their heads at us watching "The Karate Kid" and not appreciating classics from 20-30 years prior, lol.

Though I do think the movies probably have some kind of following with younger kids, I see them on TV all the time.

The one remake I sort of dread but I sense is inevitable is "Back to the Future". I guess the fun thing they could do is set the story in modern day and have the characters time travel back to 1985.
post #33 of 64

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Originally Posted by Pete-D
If anything though this "remake" would likely get kids to go back and watch the originals on DVD, especially if they do give Ralph Macchio some kind of role.

That's actually my point, if someone has grown up with the film then he or she probably owns it on DVD and it shouldn't take a remake to twist their arm to show it to their kids, they should already be eager to do so when the child is old enough to understand the films themes.

I know that if I were a parent i'd be counting the days until I could show them my favorite films growing up, not allow some needless remake to give me the greenlight or the idea. It's actually just common sense, you love a film, you own it, your eager to share it with others, it's what every film fan does.

On another note, The Exorcist (BTW I *DARE* someone to try to remake that!) was also the butt of many jokes in films, hell entire parody films, most notably Repossessed starring Linda Blair, have been made about it but it still has the power to scare the living piss out of me lol.
post #34 of 64

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No it's called doing something new. Do you really want a scene for scene remake like PSYCHO or THE OMEN? Or would you rather it try something new like the other 99% of remakes out there? Of course they're going to tie it to another movie because of how much money these things make. Did you see how much PROM NIGHT made on its opening weekend? It was downright horrid but people lined up for it. Remaking THE KARATE KID with Will Smith's name tied to it would draw big crowds. Fans have to accept the facts that we're living in the past on these movies and the majority of moviegoers (ala teenagers) don't give a rats ass about some movie made 20+ years ago. They want some new and that's why they constantly throw down $20 to see it. You throw PROM NIGHT out there and it opens to some $30 million. You throw the original out there and it wouldn't make $30,000.

Just because you and I love this film just means that there are a few more million out there who don't care a lick about it. I don't do predictions on these things but this has blockbuster written all over it. Blockbuster is the key in Hollywood.

And before we get too off topic, THE KARATE KID was nothing more than Akira Kurosawa's SANSHIRO SUGATA made over with a touch of ROCKY. It was certainly far from being original. Since people are going to boycott this film then they could just go back and watch what influenced it so much.

Dink, dink, dink! Is anyone there? Mike has summed up thoughts on TKK perfectly as far as I am concerned. Why is everyone commenting on a movie that's not even marketed to you.
post #35 of 64

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Originally Posted by Les Samuel
Dink, dink, dink! Is anyone there? Mike has summed up thoughts on TKK perfectly as far as I am concerned. Why is everyone commenting on a movie that's not even marketed to you.

Because some of us think it's a bad idea and we're voicing our displeasure.

Let us do so.
post #36 of 64

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And because some of us are sick and tired of there being so many of these needless remakes, which continue to come and are only going to continue, the more we excuse them*

*Yes, and this is coming from the same guy who intends to see FRIDAY THE 13TH PART 11
post #37 of 64

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Originally Posted by Joe Karlosi
*Yes, and this is coming from the same guy who intends to see FRIDAY THE 13TH PART 11

Me too hehe. I mean come on, Jason looking like a mutant back-woods redneck freak again and on top of that he RUNS!

How can any self respecting 'Friday' fan resist?
post #38 of 64

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Right! With the F13 series, it's just a guy in a hockey mask offing dumb kids. I don't care what they call the movie or do to it, as long as that's what's going on.

The F13 series, much as I like it, is a great case where the first "line" of films is finished. There is nowhere else to go. I think the series ended perfectly with JASON X (I feel FREDDY VS JASON occurs netween JASON GOES TO HELL and JASON X) , and where Jason winds up. A perfect solution. I'm ready for a reboot of sorts here, but this is only one in a zillion cases where I think it's a good idea.
post #39 of 64

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I agree, Joe.

I also agree with you about where 'FvsJ' falls in the series, I have them in order that way on my shelf. As far as i'm concerned it's more a 'Friday' film than a 'Nightmare' film.

But anyway, The Karate Kid...
post #40 of 64

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Originally Posted by Joe Karlosi
A remake of THE KARATE KID. Oh, come on.

These unoriginal ideas get more dopey every day.

Well...It gets worse....

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Ridley Scott is now OFFICIALLY attached to direct a big screen movie based on Hasbro’s popular board game Monopoly.

And supposedly a movie based on Ouigi and Battleship are planned.


Worst Idea Ever: Ridley Scott is Directing Monopoly | /Film
post #41 of 64

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People, we're talking THE KARATE KID here and not CASABLANCA. I love TKK but.... In fact this thread has made me want to go back and watch all four.

As for some saying kids should already want to watch TKK, yeah right. That's like saying people in their 60s should want to listen to Master P.

As someone "young", I find it a lot easier to get my younger friends to try classic films than older ones. It's my older friends/family who are hard headed in their ways and refuse to try anything new and instead just watching stuff they've been watching the past thirty years. With my younger friends, they'll at least try something different.
post #42 of 64

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Originally Posted by Michael Elliott
People, we're talking THE KARATE KID here and not CASABLANCA.

Casablanca bored me the 3 times I watched it. The Karate Kid had me doing crane kicks in the schoolyard. It wins.

post #43 of 64

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Originally Posted by Russell G
Casablanca bored me the 3 times I watched it. The Karate Kid had me doing crane kicks in the schoolyard. It wins.


Admit it Russell. You STILL are doing crane kicks in your backyard.

Also, you have to feel bad for William Zabka. Almost every role he played. He was a jerk. He could be the nicest guy off camera. But, everytime you see him. You think of him being an arse.
post #44 of 64

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Originally Posted by Michael Elliott
As for some saying kids should already want to watch TKK, yeah right. That's like saying people in their 60s should want to listen to Master P.

I never actually said that kids should already want to see it, I said that the parents should already want to show it to them.
post #45 of 64

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Originally Posted by todd s
Admit it Russell. You STILL are doing crane kicks in your backyard.

Also, you have to feel bad for William Zabka. Almost every role he played. He was a jerk. He could be the nicest guy off camera. But, everytime you see him. You think of him being an arse.

Bald, fat and 34, still rocking the mutha F*ckin' crane kick!

this was a funny thing on Zabka. From Patton Oswalts website.

Patton Oswalt
post #46 of 64

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Originally Posted by Inspector Hammer!
I never actually said that kids should already want to see it, I said that the parents should already want to show it to them.

Some parents don't want them to watch a rather violent and foul-mouthed film. Some of those PG rated films from 1970-84 are rather not so kid friendly these days.

Not to mention another aspect but there are very few films out there for black kids. Yes, there's plenty of white entertainment but I think Smith would try doing something bigger with this by making the hero a black child. Not too many of these films out there.

Either way $$$$$$$$$
post #47 of 64

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Originally Posted by Michael Elliott
Some parents don't want them to watch a rather violent and foul-mouthed film. Some of those PG rated films from 1970-84 are rather not so kid friendly these days.

Well that's a whole other issue and one that i'm not touching as it will provide me with a whole weeks worth of aggravation. All this sensitivity to films these days gets on my freakin' nerves.

I watched them and I turned out well, I don't swear like a trucker and i'm not a psychopath.

Anyway the violence in the film isn't as bad as it could have been...

Check out the Mortal Kombat 'Flawless Victory' ending (turn down the volume on your speakers, though, whomever created this recorded it way loud)...



post #48 of 64

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Maybe they can base the movie on the DC Comics character instead.
wikipedia.gif Karate Kid (comics).
post #49 of 64

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We need a Karate Kid remake about as much as we need a True Grit remake.
post #50 of 64

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post #51 of 64

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there is only one karate kid that man is Ralph Macchio, if they thing he should do it and it should be like about his son being the next karate kid... but i hope Ralph Macchio makes a apperance in it
post #52 of 64
Trailer:

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=61785

Garbage.  Let's see if anyone gets how they took an unplanned joke from the original and made it intentional here:

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
"Wax on.  Wax off."

to

"Jacket off."

post #53 of 64
Oh dear lord.
post #54 of 64
Ha. That joke never occurred to me.

The biggest problem I have at this point is that it's called "Karate Kid" when they're practicing kung fu (or wushu).
post #55 of 64
This is a pretty funny review of the trailer (as well as some other trailers)
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/dw/tf/15202-ep012
post #56 of 64
His observation about the flyswatter scene clicked with me and I actually felt a sting of anger right there.

They took an honest and original scene and purposefully twisted it all around until now it means nothing and serves no other purpose except to get a laugh.

To me that is this film in a nutshell.

Lastly it feels about as warm as a cold winters night and about as charming as an angry Cobra.
post #57 of 64
Personally, I'm disappointed that for all the criticism on the blogs I subscribe to, the only one to mention the kung fu vs. karate problem is a site that deals exclusively in martial arts movies. Maybe in the big scheme it's the least of the movie's problems, but it shouldn't be.
post #58 of 64
I also bet you a million dollars we'll go the whole film without hearing a single note of Zamfir's wonderful pan flute.
post #59 of 64
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Originally Posted by Inspector Hammer! View Post
They took an honest and original scene and purposefully twisted it all around until now it means nothing and serves no other purpose except to get a laugh.

To me that is this film in a nutshell.

They showcased that at least three times in the trailer:

First, when Daniel got to the apartments in Reseda, he found out they weren't going to live in the ocean paradise suggested by the apartment complex's name.  Here, the kid knows he's going to China and they still have him comment about Beverly Hills.  It was a natural thing in the original, but here it's just a conscious callback.

Second, the training in Karate Kid was a nice little surprise for the audience and Daniel.  Neither we nor he knew he was getting his lessons through his labor.  Here, instead of being smart enough to know we now know, they went for it anyway with an extremely contrived "jacket on" lesson.  A few years after the Karate Kid, there was a similar movie where Billy Blanks was a janitor training a kid to stand up for himself, and he had the kid swabbing out some toilets.  The kid was disgusted and annoyed, but then he said, "Oh, I get it.  This is like wax on, wax off!  This is my karate lesson!"  Blanks says, "No, it's called cleaning the toilet so I can finish my other work to make time for your lesson!"  Those filmmakers were aware enough to put a new spin on it.

Third, the fly thing.  It doesn't even make sense.  Why does he need to pull the fly off of the flyswatter, other than to trick us into thinking he was doing the Miyagi thing?

Other than that, the main problem is that the kid is far too young and the setting is far too alien.  Daniel was about to graduate high school, and had a high schooler's problems.  I don't care about what some eight-year-old is having to go through. 
post #60 of 64
You nailed it, Greg.

This is the first remake in awhile that I've truly despised with all my heart, the last one was that horrid, *HORRID* HORRID piece of blasphemy known as The Hitcher remake.
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