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Originally Posted by Neil Brock:
When the press spoke to Oswald he said that he was a patsy. Now considering the entire situation, let me ask you when or where have you ever heard any murder suspect, let alone one who was presumed to have committed the crime of the century, say something like that?
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Lee Harvey Oswald's "Patsy" declaration is another thing that has been severely misrepresented and taken completely out of context by conspiracy theorists over the years.
What you need to do is listen to the entire "Patsy" comment made by Oswald in the DPD hallway, instead of just focusing on the last four words of Oswald's statement ("I'm just a patsy"). Here's the whole thing:
LEE HARVEY OSWALD DECLARES "I'M JUST A PATSY"
When listening to the whole statement linked above, it becomes very obvious that Oswald is not talking about some group like the Mob or the CIA or anti-Castro Cubans setting him up to take the fall for JFK's murder.
Instead, by way of the provable LIE that he utters just one second before he says he's a patsy -- "They've taken me in because of the fact that I lived in the Soviet Union" -- Oswald clearly is indicating that he believes it is the Dallas Police who are setting him up as the "patsy".
Now, does any reasonable person on the planet actually think that Oswald really believed that the only reason he was "taken in" was because he had lived in Russia from 1959 to 1962? That's nuts. He knew damn well why he was "taken in" by the Dallas Police.
He was arrested because he hit a policeman in the face and because he pulled a gun on some cops in the Texas Theater after the police went there on a tip that a man was acting suspiciously and "running from them [the police] for some reason" [quote from Julia Postal, who is the woman who called the police from the theater on 11/22/63].
And based on just the J.D. Tippit murder alone (which is a murder that only a total fool could think was committed by someone other than Lee Harvey Oswald), and not even counting JFK's murder, we know beyond all doubt that Oswald was lying when he played dumb and said to the press over and over again, "I don't know what I'm here for".
And we can also, therefore, know that the words that came out of Oswald's mouth just one second prior to saying "I'm just a patsy" were words that formed one of the dozens of provable lies that were uttered by LHO while he was in police custody, because Oswald, more than any other person in the whole world, certainly knew the reason why he had been arrested on November 22, 1963.
So, quite literally, Lee Oswald was claiming that the Dallas Police Department was making him a "patsy" for the President's murder and for Officer Tippit's murder too. And that, quite frankly, is just plain silly.
For one (big) thing -- Does anybody really believe that the Dallas Police would have attempted to frame an innocent man named Oswald, all the while the DPD doesn't give a damn about letting the real killer(s) of their fellow officer go free? That's just nuts.
Plus, there's also the fact that the Dallas Police certainly didn't have any knowledge whatsoever of Oswald's defection to Russia at the time he was placed under arrest at 1:50 PM (CST) on 11/22/63. The DPD didn't learn about Oswald's background until hours later, which is when the rest of America and the world began to get the full story on this kooky loner named Lee Harvey.
But the conspiracy theorists continue to enjoy propping up Oswald's "Patsy" statement as if it really meant something important....and as if Oswald was really telling the world the truth when he said he was just a patsy.
But I'm still wondering why so many conspiracists want to believe Lee Harvey's "Patsy" whitewash, even though those same conspiracists must certainly realize that Oswald was telling a whopper of a lie just one second earlier?!
If Oswald was telling a provable lie in the first part of his statement (and he definitely was), then why on Earth would anyone suddenly think he would perform a complete about-face and start telling the truth one second later? Again, that's nuts.
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I just love being called a "Warren Commission apologist". It truly makes my day, and it always provides a chuckle too. Almost as much as the oft-bandied-about term "Warrenatti". Conspiracy-happy folks love that one too.
As for Rose Cherami, I haven't done a great deal of research on her story, but another JFK researcher has--Dave Reitzes:
"Among conspiracy theorists, the story has been considered quite credible since 1979, when an account by investigator Patricia Orr was published by the HSCA. This account was based primarily on the HSCA depositions of Francis Frugé and Victor Weiss, a doctor at the Jackson hospital.
"The problem is that in accounts given by Frugé and Weiss to the New Orleans District Attorney's Office over a decade earlier, in 1967, there is no mention whatsoever of Cherami having made any statements about the assassination prior to the time it occurred.
"On the contrary, several 1967 accounts by Frugé state only that, following Cherami's November 26 release from the Jackson hospital, Cherami informed Frugé that she had worked for Ruby, that Ruby and Oswald had been in Ruby's club together, and that the two were "good friends" and "bed partners"." -- David A. Reitzes [via link provided below] Rose Cherami: Oliver Stone's JFK: The JFK 100
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