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HTF Attendees Report: Twentieth Century Fox 10/23

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We would like to thank everyone at Fox Home Entertainment including
Steve Feldstein, Dorrit Ragosine and Callie Jernigan and for a memorable
day at their studio.
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Re: HTF Attendees Report: Twentieth Century Fox 10/23

The afternoon featured a visit to the Fox Studios. Fox provided us with a number of distinct discussions and presentations that dealt with not only their upcoming blur-ray offerings, but a glimpse into their long history in movie-making. Due to the size of our group, it was impractical to bring the group to the various spots on the studio lot, so they brought the stories and objects of interest to one of their screening rooms which hosted our group.

We first heard quite a bit about the troubled production of Cleopatra, and how the making-of the film might make an interesting film in and of itself. It's simply mind-boggling that a film budgeted for $3 million ended up taking over $40 million to finally finish, though its leading lady almost didn't finish the film due to illness, and the director was replaced early, and the replacement director was pushed to his limits to get the film completed.

We got to see a handful of props from past films. We were shown Wilson, the volleyball from "Cast Away". Then we saw a few items from Planet of the Apes (2003), like a Thade mask made for a stuntman that was based from Tim Roth's head, and a big menacing sword welded by Michael Duncan Clarke's character. The visor for Cyclops in X-Men 2 and 3 was brought in, as well as the conceptual art for the visor in X-Men. The Sai that was used by Jennifer Garner's Elektra character in Daredevil, and later in her own Elektra film was shown to us, and it was the collapsable model that allowed it to be used to stab people without hurting them (supposedly...).

We were shown the Oscar statuette that was awarded to Fox for their innovation of Cinemascope.

Then a discussion of the restoration effect for "The Robe" commenced by showing us some film elements and how they were integrated into the final restored product, though it was a tough assignment due to the lack of strong elements discovered for use in the restoration effort.

The bulk of the presentation dealt with the following Blu-ray titles (and a cursory glimpse into the Blu-ray-only extras):

Die Another Day - has featurettes in high-definition where possible, and ports over the extras from its previous DVD release, and included other goodies exclusive to the Blu-ray edition.

Planet of the Apes (original version with Charlton Heston) - adds a new 16-minute "documentary" created for the Blu-ray edition, and also provides other exclusive content, like games, and featurettes/commentaries.

Super Troopers - they brought in the original cast, who practically shadow the entire film with newly recorded video/audio commentary overlay. Also, games are present, as well as other features. This blu-ray edition represents a focus on providing another level of entertainment for fans of the film
that is only possible with Blu-ray.

Horton Hears a Who - There is a feature that provides an overlay of JoJo, the young male son of the mayor of Whoville, throughout the film, and his actions react to what's going on in the film at any given moment. There's a "Sid" (of Ice Age fame) animated short on the BD release too, and other extras.

Vanishing Point - has a number of factoids, and games, and dashboard overlay in order to provide more content for fans of this film's BD release.

X-Files: I Want to Believe - promises to provide some neat extras that takes advantage of BD Bonus view that allows the viewer to go through details of all the episodes of X-Files from the very beginning. Fox is also building BD-Live websites to provide more content and allow fans to do their own investigation based on the new details available from the websites. There is also new commentary that can be seen with BD, but might only be heard on the DVD counterpart. The BD release offers quite a bit for the fans of X-Files and this film.

The rest of the session in the screening room gave way to Q & A, and our group was up to the task of asking about titles from the past that still haven't made it to DVD, and more recent titles and their possible BD release date (like "Office Space" since they had mentioned its BD edition being worked on with another cast commentary overlay), but marketing wasn't represented, so nothing too specific was stated. The BD of Patton was a source for the question of how much DNR should be applied to the video transfer of older films now being prepped for BD release, and there was no easy answer, and would be dealt with on a a case-by-case manner. The last question dealt with no-frills BD titles getting released by Fox, and it comes down to budgeted resources and marketing decisions for a particular title's sell-through prospects. It almost always comes down to how much time/expense a studio is willing to earmark against projected sales of a title. That was just a small sampling of the questions hurled at the Fox representatives present for our visit with them.

Afterwards, Fox treated us a nice spread of food, as well as an open bar featuring beer, wine and soft drinks. Our group then made their way to the Fox store, and proceeded to make quite a dent in purchasing BD titles, DVDs, season sets, and other Fox-related merchandise. There were two new 3-title James Bond BD bundled sets which proved to be very popular and were scarfed up quickly. I managed to snap up a few t-shirts for my purchase from the Fox store.

All in all, a nice presentation of Fox's cinematic history and current upcoming BD releases was enjoyed by our group. Thanks to Fox for welcoming our group to their studio, providing a Q & A venue of possible upcoming titles and of current titles which have generated discussion amongst the online community, and the delicious refreshments for our members.
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Some additional tidbits from a conversation that Vern Dias and I had with the head of restorations at Fox regarding Patton. The conversation was frank and friendly:
  • "I just restore 'em; the video version is handled elsewhere."
  • There is no "un-DNR'd" Blu-ray master for comparison (which does not mean that the original uncompressed restoration doesn't exist, though this was not explicitly stated).
  • At some point, a version was made with even greater noise reduction that was rejected as looking too "plastic".
  • His personal opinion is that the existing Blu-ray is just fine, because Blu-ray doesn't have sufficient resolution to reproduce everything that is in his restoration. (After seeing the following day's demonstration of AVC encoding at Panasonic Hollywood Labs, I'm not so sure he's right about that, but it was clear that Blu-ray wasn't his area of expertise.)
We thanked him for his candor and his restoration efforts.

Also, during the general discussion, mention was made of focus groups in which the majority of participants expressed a preference for the removal of film grain and a minority wanted it retained. So, at the conclusion, I raised my hand and pointed out that, the next time the issue arose, the Fox people in attendance could report that they'd sat in a room full of people all of whom wanted the grain left intact. This was met (as I knew it would be) by an enthusiastic chorus of "yes!"
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Well done, Michael. I wish I could have been there to yell "Yes" with the rest of you.
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I also need to mention Fox generously handed out some horror titles on Blu-ray: Carrie, Amityville, Omen collection and Young Frankenstein.
Great view of the Nakatomi building from the Fox lot, too!!
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Yep, the Fox visit was a ton of fun and VERY informative, and the goodie bag at the end is trulky appreciated! We even got a few spare bags to use in an upcoming HTF giveaway, so for those of you who couldnt make it, keep an eye out for that!
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Thank you Fox!
I applaud the restoration effort on The Robe and the presentation on Cleopatra was really enjoyable.
Thanks for the demos on some of the extras and features found on your BD disks - these will be appreciated and truly extend the viewing experience.
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Not much more I can add to what others have already said, other than my thanks for their generous hospitality and the opportunity to visit the Fox employee store.
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I applaud the restoration effort on The Robe and the presentation on Cleopatra was really enjoyable.

Does this mean Cleopatra will be released on Blu-Ray in the near future? Any information on this (such as the two hours worth of deleted scenes) would be most appreciated. This title, along with Raintree County from WB, will make me break down and buy a Blu-Ray player.
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My favorite aspect of the Blu-ray presentation was the demonstration of the special features on the latest X-Files film, "I Want To Believe." The series explorer included on the disc is spectacular, and will be a fantastic resource for fans and consumers alike. Nothing is comparable, as far as I know.

I was also very pleased to "Vanishing Point" getting a release. I can only hope that it will look as good as some of the other films from its era.

Overall, the presentation/Q&A/reception was very nice, and while I can't say I agree with the application of DNR, the thoughtful and well-intentioned restorationist helped me to better understand their reasons using it.

Oh, I almost forgot for the second time. PLEASE BRING "TRUE LIES" TO BLU-RAY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE! I can't believe I forgot to ask when I was there, but this is one of my favorite FOX titles, and without it, my Blu-ray collection will be incomplete.

Thanks for everything!
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Re: HTF Attendees Report: Twentieth Century Fox 10/23

Oh, and for a few of those that emailed me in advance to ask this
question....

Spoke to Fox Restorationist Sean Belston about a BD of All That Jazz.

There is nothing currently in the planning stages, but we are
fortunate that this is one of his favorite films (which he acknowledged).
I would not be surprised if this title gets fast-tracked for release.
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Re: HTF Attendees Report: Twentieth Century Fox 10/23

FOX.....what can I say about this visit that hasn't already been said. I rate this studio my 3rd favorite. It was a great visit. We got to experience some new and upcoming BD releases. And as to what James was saying, the new X-Files release has some very neat and out of the box features with BD-Live.

With our Q&A session I was able to ask them one question. I thanked them first for bringing out such great James Bond releases that week. But was very quick to ask them when we can expect the next wave of Bond title's. They told me that we will see the next wave of 007 titles with the release of "Quantum Of Solace" on DVD/BD. Which will be sometime next year. They did not tell me which ones, or how many. I hope they are going to bring out more then just 6. Because 6 Bond releases per year means another 3 years of waiting before my entire 007 BD collection is complete.

After our demo and Q&A session FOX treaded us to some nice snacks and an open bar. Very nice! The "goodie" bag was definitely the best one of the week. I mean, "The Omen Collection" alone is worth about $90 at Amazon. I was so happy to receive that one. As I was about to order it a week prior to our meetings. Thanks FOX!

Now imaging this.....a store were all of the FOX BD titles are between $11.99 and $15.99. Or what about the entire "MASH" DVD collection for $79.99! It was a total frenzy in their employee store. My CC got hit hard at that studio. You should have seen the shelves after all of us were done at that store. A lot of empty spots on the shelf.

All in all a very positive experience at the FOX studios. A very big "thank you" to all the people at FOX who made this happen.
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I want to add my thanks to Fox Studio for a wonderful afternoon. Its representatives were marvelous hosts. They treated us very well. I came away with a greater appreciation for what Fox does in regards to its restoration of films. The Robe presentation illustrates their commitment to preserving film.

When someone asked the inevitable question about the use of DNR on Patton, what impressed me was not so much the response, but rather a comment that one rep made. She said that they knew that question was coming. To me, that means that Fox pays attention to what goes on at our forum. And I think that’s excellent. So, even though we may not agree totally with all their views, we can be assured that they are, as I said, paying attention. This subject has been beaten to death all over the net, but I have to believe that Fox does monitor what goes on here at HTF. After all we were invited as guests to their studio! I am very appreciative of Fox and their efforts in the Home Video market.

Once again, thank you Fox for the excellent welcome you gave us, for providing us access to your representatives, and for the gifts. It was an exciting and informative afternoon. Keep up the good work!
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