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post #91 of 270
12/12/08 at 6:40pm

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The Yankees have also picked up AJ Burnett.

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post #92 of 270
12/15/08 at 12:23pm

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The Phillies sign Raul Ibanez, with Pat Burrell gone now.
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post #93 of 270
12/15/08 at 8:57pm

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I don't get that. It must be strictly a cost-cutting thing, as Ibanez is five years older, a tick down offensively even after accounting for their respective home parks, and not enough of a defensive improvement to compensate.
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post #94 of 270
12/15/08 at 9:29pm

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he's cheaper and after watching burrell barely able to run a lick for 9 years
and go months at a time hardly being able to hit above .200
i'm very happy with this move.
I'd much rather have a guy who can hit .270 and be consistent
for nearly an entire season then a guy who will
hit .390 for april and May then .195 most of the rest of the season.

the main concern i have is he is another lefty in the the lineup and
they continue to not really have any real bat for hitting behind Howard.
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post #95 of 270
12/16/08 at 10:02am

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It's not like Ibanez is significantly faster than Burrell, though. It's a weird signing, in that this is usually the situation where a team would get younger, rather than significantly older.

Not that age seems to scare the Phillies - two more years for Jamie Moyer!
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post #96 of 270
12/16/08 at 6:13pm

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true but the other piints i mentioned are important.
although after watching burrell the for nine years i swear he actually gets slower during the game.
really, he was the slowest player i've ever seen.
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post #97 of 270
12/16/08 at 7:46pm

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Including Molinas?
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post #98 of 270
12/16/08 at 8:40pm
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Or Sean Casey?

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post #99 of 270
12/16/08 at 8:56pm

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yea those guys are slow, but the molinas are catchers and one of them is 'fast for a catcher"

and sean casey is about 63 years old.
pat the bat is, what 32?

he would be considered "slow for a catcher"
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post #100 of 270
12/17/08 at 8:11am

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Does anyone want to see Manny in pinstripes? I don't. My guess is he would kill the Bosox with his bat. Truth be told, I'd much rather see him in an Angels uniform. I've been hearing this as a possibility the past two days.

I hope Teixeira comes to Boston. I really do.
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post #101 of 270
12/17/08 at 11:04am

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Hmmm... Take back what I said about Ibanez being a defensive upgrade...



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post #102 of 270
12/17/08 at 11:12am

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Originally Posted by Ockeghem
Does anyone want to see Manny in pinstripes? I don't. My guess is he would kill the Bosox with his bat. Truth be told, I'd much rather see him in an Angels uniform. I've been hearing this as a possibility the past two days.

I hope Teixeira comes to Boston. I really do.
This Yankee fan does not want to see Manny anywhere near the Yankee clubhouse. I don't care if he hits .500, he eventually turns into a distraction and a problem child, and will kill the clubhouse. He 'tanked it' in Boston and was essentially voted off the team by his teammates, nuff said.
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post #103 of 270
12/17/08 at 11:19am
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I was a huge Manny apologist (I can deal with stupid stuff if you hit .500)...until last season.

There is no forgiving what he did last season. I'm surprised the commissioner's office didn't investigate what went down there.
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post #104 of 270
12/17/08 at 11:31am

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Originally Posted by Jason Seaver
Hmmm... Take back what I said about Ibanez being a defensive upgrade...



that was one play.

the good about pat burrell is he doesn't make many errors
and has a above average arm.
the bad is he doesn't get to balls quick enough to catch it
so he gets a lot of balls on a hop.
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post #105 of 270
12/17/08 at 12:14pm

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Actually, go to Lookout Landing... It's apparently common enough that there's an entire sidebar "Raul Ibanez takes pride in his defense".
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post #106 of 270
12/17/08 at 1:31pm

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nope don't care that much to go any more on this.

if Ibanez hits 20-25 homers and 90-100 rbi's i'm fine.
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post #107 of 270
12/17/08 at 5:51pm

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Originally Posted by LewB
This Yankee fan does not want to see Manny anywhere near the Yankee clubhouse. I don't care if he hits .500, he eventually turns into a distraction and a problem child, and will kill the clubhouse. He 'tanked it' in Boston and was essentially voted off the team by his teammates, nuff said.
Lew,

On second thought, I'd love to see Manny in pinstripes, preferably in a long-term contract, and as long as he tanks his games against Boston.

Seriously, I wonder if the distractions would bother the Yankees. During part of the time when the Yankees were managed by Billy Martin, they almost seemed to thrive, at least from my perspective, on distractions and off-the-field news. Perhaps these problems really were only confined to Martin, however, and weren't actually in the clubhouse.
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post #108 of 270
12/18/08 at 6:07pm

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The Red Sox appear to be inching closer to acquiring Mark Teixeira. His bat and defensive skills would be a welcome addition to their team. He was one tough out in the ALDS. And his switch-hitting wouldn't hurt either.

I don't particularly like seeing Mike Lowell traded, but I would rather have Teixeira. Youkilis can play third base rather well, and Ortiz can remain their DH or play first when Teixeira needs a break.

ESPN - Sources: Boston Red Sox closing in signing first baseman Mark Teixeira
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post #109 of 270
12/18/08 at 8:05pm

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Roy Halliday is a free agent after 2009... i'm still hoping beyond hope that the Yanks can afford to go all out for him like they did CC this year. forget Burnett. but the Yanks have no patience
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post #110 of 270
12/18/08 at 8:43pm
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Halladay is a great pitcher. Sabathia & Burnett? Good. Not great. I really think the Yankees have picked up two really good pitchers...but they sure have paid a lot of money for them. I don't pretend to be able to know what's good money for a professional baseball player's contract. But it sure seems like the Yanks have pinned an awful lot of their future to these two arms.

Now, Halladay. He's cut from different cloth. I could definitely see spending a boatload and committing a team's future to that arm.
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post #111 of 270
12/18/08 at 8:48pm

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And now it looks like Teixeira won't be coming to Boston. Hmmm. As one of the ESPN announcers said, it may be "posturing" on the part of Boston (or agents), but I'm not so sure.
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post #112 of 270
12/21/08 at 5:41am

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Hello all,

Here is a very interesting article dealing with several baseball deals that are currently in the works. It's written by Peter Gammons, whom I like as much for baseball writing as I do Bob Ryan for basketball.

The first paragraph got my attention right off the bat:

"It has been suggested that the best way to decipher the Red Sox-Mark Teixeira negotiations is to pull out your old turntable, put on "Revolution 9" from the Beatles' "White Album" and play it backward. Then you will know what's been offered and what's been requested."

The article discusses Mark Teixeira, C. C. Sabathia, Manny Ramirez, Jason Varitek, Jermaine Dye, Joey Votto, Chone Figgins, Pat Burrell, Orlando Hudson, Adam Dunn, Bobby Abreu, Milton Bradley, Derek Lowe, Rocco Baldelli, et al. Even though it doesn't reach a lot of conclusions regarding who is going where, I find it informative for telling us what we (and agents) don't really know at this point.

The peripheral to the article is also interesting, as it discusses the size of American baseballs as opposed to Japanese. I'd like to research this topic for my own personal interest one day, as I had no idea that the discrepancy in baseballs has actually forced some Japanese pitchers to forfeit some of their pitches when they make the transition to American baseball.

ESPN - Peter Gammons Blog
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post #113 of 270
12/21/08 at 11:57am
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Thanks for the post, Scott.

Gammons is one of the best. And he proves it here.

If you like interesting baseball writing...if you ever get the chance, seek out "Baseball As I Have Known It" by Fred Leib. Leib is one of the real old school baseball writers from the early days of baseball. Not only does he shed insidght into the long-ago players...but he writes in that interesting prose that was so fashionable 100 years ago. He covered baseball for more than 70 years!

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I never knew Japanese baseballs were smaller than American baseballs.
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post #114 of 270
12/21/08 at 7:15pm

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Angels have reportedly pulled their eight-year offer to Teixiera and are no longer pursuing him.

Manny expects to get a three-year offer from the Blank Checks Yankees.
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post #115 of 270
12/22/08 at 8:11am

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Yankees may make pitch for Manny | yankees.com: News

All I have to say about this is: Let's Go Mets !
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post #116 of 270
12/22/08 at 10:18am

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10-21-08:
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Originally Posted by MarkHastings
Nah, I've said from day one that Manny's stay in LA will be temporary. He'll (i.e. Manny) probably end up in NY.
Hmmm??
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post #117 of 270
12/22/08 at 10:29am

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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon
Thanks for the post, Scott.

Gammons is one of the best. And he proves it here.

If you like interesting baseball writing...if you ever get the chance, seek out "Baseball As I Have Known It" by Fred Leib. Leib is one of the real old school baseball writers from the early days of baseball. Not only does he shed insidght into the long-ago players...but he writes in that interesting prose that was so fashionable 100 years ago. He covered baseball for more than 70 years!
Mike,

Thanks. I will check that out some time.

Another author I like, and one who writes about sports, among other subjects, is David Halberstam. His books on the Portland Trailblazers (The Breaks of the Game); The Teammates (a book on four members of the 1940s Red Sox--Ted Williams, Bobby Doerr, Dom DiMaggio, and Johnny Pesky, and the friendships that ensued over the years); and the general literary sports collection (The Best American Sports Writing of the Century), the latter edited by Halberstam, are quite good.
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post #118 of 270
12/22/08 at 11:39am

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The baseball book I've always regarded as a true treasure is 'The Glory of Their Times' by Lawrence Ritter.
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post #119 of 270
12/22/08 at 11:50am

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Originally Posted by Dave B Ferris
The baseball book I've always regarded as a true treasure is 'The Glory of Their Times' by Lawrence Ritter.
I just checked, and our library owns this. Another one I should probably check out.

Ritter, L. S. The Glory of Their Times: the Story of the Early Days of Baseball Told By the Men Who Played It. By Lawrence S. Ritter ; with a foreword by John K. Hutchens. New York: Macmillan, 1966.
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post #120 of 270
12/22/08 at 7:26pm
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Originally Posted by Ockeghem
Mike,

Thanks. I will check that out some time.

Another author I like, and one who writes about sports, among other subjects, is David Halberstam. His books on the Portland Trailblazers (The Breaks of the Game); The Teammates (a book on four members of the 1940s Red Sox--Ted Williams, Bobby Doerr, Dom DiMaggio, and Johnny Pesky, and the friendships that ensued over the years); and the general literary sports collection (The Best American Sports Writing of the Century), the latter edited by Halberstam, are quite good.

Other Halberstam books I have on my shelf (alongsides The Teammates) is Summr of '49 and October 1964. Both excellent!

I would also heartily recommend Doris Kearns Goodwin's Wait Till Next Year.

What sets the Leib book apart is how far back his knowledge of the game goes. And since he was a beat writer (and official scorer!) he takes a very practical view of the game.
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