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post #211 of 646
4/16/09 at 12:22pm

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Originally Posted by Scott Merryfield
As others have said, Versus in the former Outdoor Life Network (OLN). They won the bid for the U.S. NHL TV rights a couple of seasons ago. On our Comcast system, Versus is included with the standard cable package, and Versus-HD is included in the standard HD cable package. I believe Comcast does this because they own either part of or all of Versus.

On a slight tangent, this issue with Comcast ownership of Versus and that channel not being part of a special "sports" tier is the basis for the NFL's case against Comcast regarding the NFL Network, which looks like it will disappear from Comcast on May 1st when the league's current agreement with Comcast expires. Comcast wants to keep it on the sports tier, while the NFL is arguing that constitutes an unfair practice per FCC regulations. The FCC is hearing the case.
Scott,

Many thanks. You can bet that tonight, I will be surfing all of my cable stations (we have the Direct 150 pack).
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post #212 of 646
4/16/09 at 1:45pm

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Originally Posted by Ockeghem
Scott,

Many thanks. You can bet that tonight, I will be surfing all of my cable stations (we have the Direct 150 pack).

Versus is Direct TV channel 603.
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post #213 of 646
4/16/09 at 4:19pm

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^^^

Jeff (and Scott),

Hey thanks. I just checked, and we have it. (You probably knew that already.) Now watch the Red Wings game be blacked out in my area.

The Bruins are on Versus this Saturday, I believe. This really is great. Had I not asked here, I probably wouldn't have gone searching for the channel today.
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post #214 of 646
4/16/09 at 6:45pm

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Long way to go, but a good start for the Wings tonight. Good night from Osgood and a brilliant 1st period. After that, the rest of the defense picked up and he wasn't tested much.
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post #215 of 646
4/16/09 at 7:39pm

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Well, that was a fairly good game by the Bruins tonight. I was very pleased to see them break the tie in the third period. And it was great seeing highlights of the game on NHL on the Fly. How good was it to see two defensemen score two goals approximately forty seconds apart? Very good.

What was up with the play at the end of the game? Who instigated it? I was so caught up in the empty-net goal that I didn't even see what transpired after the score was 4-2.

I watched a lot of the Detroit - Columbus game as well. The Red Wings looked sharp, very sharp. I thought they looked 'scary good' for a while. I think they will be very tough in the postseason; I'm rooting for Boston first, and if they don't make it, then I'll be pulling for the Red Wings.

The Flames and Black Hawks are tied 2-2 at the end of the third period. I really want Chicago to win this series.
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post #216 of 646
4/17/09 at 4:54am

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Originally Posted by Ockeghem
What was up with the play at the end of the game? Who instigated it? I was so caught up in the empty-net goal that I didn't even see what transpired after the score was 4-2.

Sorry, Scott, but I turned the game off right after the empty net goal, so I have no idea what you are referring to.
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post #217 of 646
4/17/09 at 5:35am

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Both the scrum after the goal and the mess at the end were the result of hits/cheap shots after the whistle by Canadiens (Anyone surprised??). Not quite the "game already decided, time to send a message" punch off the face-off by Carcillo the other night, but in the same vein. But the Bruins were willing paticipants and scrums happen 20 times a game, so I doubt anything comes of it.
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post #218 of 646
4/17/09 at 6:14am

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Originally Posted by Jeff Gatie
Both the scrum after the goal and the mess at the end were the result of hits/cheap shots after the whistle by Canadiens (Anyone surprised??). Not quite the "game already decided, time to send a message" punch off the face-off by Carcillo the other night, but in the same vein. But the Bruins were willing paticipants and scrums happen 20 times a game, so I doubt anything comes of it.
So it was the fault of the Montreal Canadians? Yeah, that is to be expected. I'm sure Scott M. would agree with this.

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post #219 of 646
4/17/09 at 6:15am

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Here's a vid from TSN, pretty bad cheap shots.

NHL : Taking A Closer Look

Flying elbow at the head by Kostopoulos, and an eye gouge by Komisarek. Hunwick's eye was a "mess" after the game and he's now day to day. I guess it's being looked at, despite what I said above. Then again, I hadn't seen the vids and didn't realize how cheap the cheap shots were.
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post #220 of 646
4/17/09 at 8:01am
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Flyers' Carcillo suspended by NHL
By Sam Carchidi

Inquirer Staff Writer

PITTSBURGH - Flyers left winger Dan Carcillo received a one-game suspension for a hit to the head of Pittsburgh Penguins center Max Talbot in Wednesday's first-round playoff game, the NHL announced yesterday.

Carcillo will sit out Game 2 tonight in Pittsburgh and will be replaced by Luca Sbisa, a defenseman who has played a few games at forward this season.

In the closing seconds of the 4-1 loss to the Penguins, Carcillo's stick appeared to hit Talbot in the head, although the Flyers winger said the replay was misleading. No penalty was called and Talbot was not hurt.

"I didn't hit him with my stick at all. I know I hit him with my hand," Carcillo said. ". . . My hand was over the stick."

In addition to Carcillo's suspension, Flyers coach John Stevens was fined $10,000 for the incident.

Carcillo said the league's hearing (in a conference call with NHL officials) was held because of "my reputation, maybe."

He led the league with 254 penalty minutes this season.

Before he took a face-off against Talbot, Carcillo said he was given a warning.

"The ref came up to me and said not to do anything, so it'd be pretty dumb for me to go out and butt-end someone in the back of the head, which I didn't do," he said. "I knew the refs were looking, and I just clipped him and he went down."

In 21 games with the Flyers, including the playoff opener, Carcillo has no goals.
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post #221 of 646
4/17/09 at 9:56am

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Originally Posted by Ockeghem
So it was the fault of the Montreal Canadians? Yeah, that is to be expected. I'm sure Scott M. would agree with this.

Right, 'cause the Bruins have never taken any cheap shots in the past.
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post #222 of 646
4/17/09 at 10:16am

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Originally Posted by Scott Merryfield
Right, 'cause the Bruins have never taken any cheap shots in the past.

Well at least you admit they were cheap shots. I guess Habs fans have come a long way; they used to deny irrefutable video evidence.

Seriously, I'm just glad the Bruins turned the other cheek last night. They have historically gotten goaded into retaliation penalties, no so last night. Lucic was a monster all game, really set the tone. Massive hits all night and by the end the Habs basically conceded him the puck. 2 of the 4 goals were all Lucic. So much for playing Big Georges, huh?
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post #223 of 646
4/17/09 at 10:26am

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Originally Posted by Jeff Gatie
Well at least you admit they were cheap shots. I guess Habs fans have come a long way; they used to deny irrefutable video evidence.

Seriously, I'm just glad the Bruins turned the other cheek last night. They have historically gotten goaded into retaliation penalties, no so last night. Lucic was a monster all game, really set the tone. Massive hits all night and by the end the Habs basically conceded him the puck. 2 of the 4 goals were all Lucic. So much for playing Big Georges, huh?

Actually, I still have not seen the incident. As I said above, I turned the game off immediately after the empty net goal.

This Habs fan is resigned to getting knocked out in the first round by the hated Bruins. They had a chance to steal Game 1 last night, but that penalty and subsequent power play goal in the third was a killer. I didn't see the actual penalty, and unfortunately CBC never showed a replay of it -- they just came back from commercial right into the start of the power play. I assume, though, it was a good call, since refs are very reluctant to call penalties in the third period of close playoff games.

It will be tough for me to see the rest of the series. We'll be in South Carolina, and our condo's cable system does not carry Versus. Last year I dragged the wife to a local sports bar to watch two of the Habs-Bruins playoff games, but that will be tougher to do this year (we have friends visiting).
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post #224 of 646
4/17/09 at 10:49am

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Originally Posted by Scott Merryfield
Actually, I still have not seen the incident. As I said above, I turned the game off immediately after the empty net goal.

This Habs fan is resigned to getting knocked out in the first round by the hated Bruins. They had a chance to steal Game 1 last night, but that penalty and subsequent power play goal in the third was a killer. I didn't see the actual penalty, and unfortunately CBC never showed a replay of it -- they just came back from commercial right into the start of the power play. I assume, though, it was a good call, since refs are very reluctant to call penalties in the third period of close playoff games.

It will be tough for me to see the rest of the series. We'll be in South Carolina, and our condo's cable system does not carry Versus. Last year I dragged the wife to a local sports bar to watch two of the Habs-Bruins playoff games, but that will be tougher to do this year (we have friends visiting).

I put a link up above. But there are reports coming in that besides the finger poke shown, Komisarek also dropped the left glove and thumb gouged Hunwick, causing the blood and swelling. Nothing on video yet, but this pic certainly looks pretty bad for that:



The penalty that led to the Chara goal was a crosscheck on Axelsson, and it was blatant. No iffy call there. Matter of fact, outside of the silly Hamrlik and Bergeron calls, the refs had it pretty much right last night.

By the way, I don't envy you trying to watch a hockey game in South Carolina. I lived in North Carolina for a time and even with the 'Canes being local, they'd rather watch tapes of old NCAA basketball games than turn on Stanley Cup hockey.
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post #225 of 646
4/17/09 at 12:35pm

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Originally Posted by Jeff Gatie
I put a link up above. But there are reports coming in that besides the finger poke shown, Komisarek also dropped the left glove and thumb gouged Hunwick, causing the blood and swelling. Nothing on video yet, but this pic certainly looks pretty bad for that:



The penalty that led to the Chara goal was a crosscheck on Axelsson, and it was blatant. No iffy call there. Matter of fact, outside of the silly Hamrlik and Bergeron calls, the refs had it pretty much right last night.

By the way, I don't envy you trying to watch a hockey game in South Carolina. I lived in North Carolina for a time and even with the 'Canes being local, they'd rather watch tapes of old NCAA basketball games than turn on Stanley Cup hockey.

That doesn't look pretty. Well, no one ever accused Komisarek of being a bright guy, even though he did play at the University of Michigan (he must have some Sparty or Buckeye blood in him ).

Yes, trying to watch an NHL game in the South is not easy. Last year we finally discovered this great sports bar a couple miles from our place that has literally hundreds of TV's. They showed just about every game could you imagine, and had the CBC broadcasts, too. With our current plans, though, it's going to be tough to get there to watch any games. Thanks, Bettman, for dumping ESPN!
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post #226 of 646
4/17/09 at 6:52pm

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Originally Posted by Scott Merryfield
Right, 'cause the Bruins have never taken any cheap shots in the past.
Scott,

I'm pleased you agree. I don't believe I've ever seen the Bruins take a cheap shot, at least not in the past forty years.












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post #227 of 646
4/17/09 at 7:53pm

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tough one for the flyers tonight, one stupid penalty then that
mandatory slash penalty when a stick gets broken, result - the ot loss.
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post #228 of 646
4/18/09 at 6:15am
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I thought for sure that was going to be a Flyers win last night. You've got to give them their props, they withstood everything the Pens threw at them for most of the game and stayed in the game. The first 7 minutes of that game was some of the most exciting hockey I have seen without a goal being scored. It's gonna be tough for Philly to dig themselves out of this.
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post #229 of 646
4/18/09 at 7:33pm

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Washington now finds self down two after losing both at home to start the series with the Rangers. Last I checked, the Bruins were kicking the tar out of the Canadians. Now on to more important matters.

The Red Wings are up 2-0 on the Blue Jackets after a 4-0 shutout. Osgood is now tied for 4th on the list of NHL playoff shutouts and continues to build on his record of most playoff wins for a Red Wing goalie. It is only two games, but Osgood has been sharp and the Wings defense seems to be taking it up a notch as well. While the offense has been outstanding all season, the defense and goal tending struggled in the regular season, so this is a good sign.
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post #230 of 646
4/18/09 at 8:58pm

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I'm thrilled that the Bruins are up 2-0 on Montreal at this point. A split in Montreal would be very, very nice.

Savard played a great game (four points); but how about Thomas? I hope he continues to get better and better as the playoffs unfold.

I'm really happy that we get Versus, and that the Bruins game was televised tonight. Incidentally, the blackout rule was in effect for us, as we live a few hours from Detroit. As such, I could not see the Red Wings game on NHL on the Fly.
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post #231 of 646
4/20/09 at 5:33pm

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So is anyone not surprised that the Sharks are down 0-2 to Anaheim? I know I am.

The Caps are up 3-0 against the Rangers with about 5:00 to go in the second period. And the Bruins are leading the Canadiens (3-2) at the end of two periods in Montreal.

Go Bruins!
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post #232 of 646
4/20/09 at 6:48pm

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The Bruins win, 4-2! With a 3-0 series lead against the Canadiens, much of history shows that Montreal has Boston right where they want them.
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post #233 of 646
4/21/09 at 6:03am

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Boston is just the better team this year. Period. Plus, they are simply more willing to do what it takes to get a win. How many times have you seen a Bruin take a hit to make a play which results in a score? Contrast that with the fact that the Habs defense basically stopped going in the corners against Lucic in games 1 and 2, effectively ceding him the puck, leading to two goals.

In addition, outside of Lucic snapping out on Yappy Lappy, the B's are by far more disciplined than the Habs. Shawn Thornton has walked away from more crap than anyone should have to take, I'm glad he could reap the rewards on a nice goal. 20 seconds of face washing after the whistle and Patrice Bergeron just skates away last night. That's the kind of discipline it takes to win in the off-season.
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post #234 of 646
4/21/09 at 6:52am

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Originally Posted by Jeff Gatie
Boston is just the better team this year. Period. Plus, they are simply more willing to do what it takes to get a win. How many times have you seen a Bruin take a hit to make a play which results in a score? Contrast that with the fact that the Habs defense basically stopped going in the corners against Lucic in games 1 and 2, effectively ceding him the puck, leading to two goals.

In addition, outside of Lucic snapping out on Yappy Lappy, the B's are by far more disciplined than the Habs. Shawn Thornton has walked away from more crap than anyone should have to take, I'm glad he could reap the rewards on a nice goal. 20 seconds of face washing after the whistle and Patrice Bergeron just skates away last night. That's the kind of discipline it takes to win in the off-season.
Jeff,

Those are excellent points. But let me ask you this: Does Boston have what it takes to win the Cup this year? Because for me personally, anything less than that is yet another disappointment.
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post #235 of 646
4/21/09 at 7:16am

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Originally Posted by Ockeghem
Jeff,

Those are excellent points. But let me ask you this: Does Boston have what it takes to win the Cup this year? Because for me personally, anything less than that is yet another disappointment.

I never predict sporting events, but I will say they have the grit, they have the personel, and after this series, I believe they have shown they have the attitude, i.e. the sacrifice to make the play listed above - which is probably the most important component. Given that, I think they have what it takes to get to the final, but then all bets are off - I'll have to see their opponent first. I will say this though . . . no one want to play them. If they say they do, they are lying (just like I'd be lying if I said I don't like the fact the Caps are down in their series).
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post #236 of 646
4/21/09 at 7:31am

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Originally Posted by Jeff Gatie
I never predict sporting events, but I will say they have the grit, they have the personel, and after this series, I believe they have shown they have the attitude, i.e. the sacrifice to make the play listed above - which is probably the most important component. Given that, I think they have what it takes to get to the final, but then all bets are off - I'll have to see their opponent first. I will say this though . . . no one want to play them. If they say they do, they are lying (just like I'd be lying if I said I don't like the fact the Caps are down in their series).
Jeff,

Thanks for your 100% guaranteed prediction.

Seriously, I have this gut feeling that the Bruins are going to end up playing the Red Wings....

Not a Caps fan, eh? Well, I like the Maple Leafs and Wings, and I also like the Black Hawks -- unless any of them plays Boston. Then for me, all bets are off.

I had a friend -- he was from P.E.I. -- who despised Montreal, but loved Chicago. I never understood why as a child, but grew to understand why as I became older. Those were the days of Hull, Pappen, Magnuson, Mikita, Nesterenko, and T. Esposito. I never understood why that team wasn't better than it was in the late 1960s and early 1970s.
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post #237 of 646
4/21/09 at 11:01am

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Originally Posted by Ockeghem
Jeff,

Thanks for your 100% guaranteed prediction.

Seriously, I have this gut feeling that the Bruins are going to end up playing the Red Wings....

Not a Caps fan, eh? Well, I like the Maple Leafs and Wings, and I also like the Black Hawks -- unless any of them plays Boston. Then for me, all bets are off.

I had a friend -- he was from P.E.I. -- who despised Montreal, but loved Chicago. I never understood why as a child, but grew to understand why as I became older. Those were the days of Hull, Pappen, Magnuson, Mikita, Nesterenko, and T. Esposito. I never understood why that team wasn't better than it was in the late 1960s and early 1970s.

I actually love the Caps, because of Ovechkin. I just don't think Boston matches up too well with the Caps, so I don't want to play them. Just like I'm happy San Jose is in the dumper. If they had what it takes to go to the final, then they'd be diffcult for the B's. I'd rather face Detroit, personally.
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post #238 of 646
4/21/09 at 12:48pm

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Puck drops at the Wachovia Center in t-minus 3 hours 15 minutes...got the DVR set...

Pens need to step it up tonight and take a 3-1 lead back to PGH. While I didn't see the whole game 3 - finishing swingset project for 3 year old son - caught some of it and fast forwarded through most of it.

Flyers took advantage of Pens miscues and managed to get the Pens to play more of a Flyers game - lots of scrums after whistles, etc.

Need to not do that and actually generate some PP offense. Gonchar needs to get going...so does Sykora.

Look for a rebound tonight by the Pens.

Randy
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post #239 of 646
4/21/09 at 1:44pm

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Originally Posted by Ockeghem
The Bruins win, 4-2! With a 3-0 series lead against the Canadiens, much of history shows that Montreal has Boston right where they want them.

I am not saying a FREAKING WORD until this series is OFFICIALLY OVER.

And, being approximately 13.5 years younger than you, let me say that I am REALLY, REALLY, REALLY anxious to see the Bruins go all the way!
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post #240 of 646
4/21/09 at 1:48pm
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I'm thinking/hoping that Fleury has a more typical game tonight, not to pin the loss on him. But the odds of a team scoring 5 on him in back-to-back games are pretty long.
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