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Speaking of your UK spoiler (which I only read the first sentence of and, having only just begun the second series, am now slapping myself for): Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
What Hyde is the show talking about, anyway? Hyde Park in Dutchess County is the only Hyde in New York as far as I know -- and I've never heard anybody call it just "Hyde". How hard would it have been to insert that extra word? It's the birthplace of FDR and home to the Culinary Institute of America, and they couldn't have thrown in some more specific local references?

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post #92 of 236

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In last night's episode it appeared to explore the "Am I Dead" theory with Sam thinking that he is dead at places during the episode. There were a few elements from BBC Series 2 Episode 2 in which Sam met his mentor. It could be that while he was only in one BBC episode he may recur a few times in the US series if it has a healthy life. Things are a bit more confusing for Sam with "angels" helping Sam see the funeral of his mentor.
post #93 of 236

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I haven't gotten to Season Two yet, so I thought this was an original concept finally; can't say I'm all that terribly surprised that it wasn't.

I didn't buy that everything between the black detective and the all-white 125th precinct would be that rosy. And as dramatic as the girl's death was (and the subsequent pipe-bomb), I didn't really get the feeling of a city in chaos -- not even like I did in the aftermath of the Amadou Diallo shooting in the 1990's.

I did like the homeless man who appears to walk between the planes of existence. He seems sort of angelic in the same way that the BBC test pattern girl in the UK version seemed sort of demonic.

I'm not terribly excited about next week's episode, though, which is quite obviously the newspaper hostage episode from the UK show translanted with minimal changes to a New York hospital.
post #94 of 236

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Originally Posted by Adam Lenhardt
I haven't gotten to Season Two yet, so I thought this was an original concept finally; can't say I'm all that terribly surprised that it wasn't.

I didn't buy that everything between the black detective and the all-white 125th precinct would be that rosy. And as dramatic as the girl's death was (and the subsequent pipe-bomb), I didn't really get the feeling of a city in chaos -- not even like I did in the aftermath of the Amadou Diallo shooting in the 1990's.

I did like the homeless man who appears to walk between the planes of existence. He seems sort of angelic in the same way that the BBC test pattern girl in the UK version seemed sort of demonic.

I'm not terribly excited about next week's episode, though, which is quite obviously the newspaper hostage episode from the UK show translanted with minimal changes to a New York hospital.
God, I'm so glad I never watched the UK show because it seems to negatively affect those that have seen it, their enjoyment level of the American show.






Crawdaddy
post #95 of 236

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I have to say that I really liked this past episode and this is quickly becoming one of my favorite shows. I hope that when they do actually get into "original" writing territory, they can keep the quality at least on the level it's already on.
post #96 of 236

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In January (probably, since that is when Lost returns) the show will be changing days according to ABC doctors its schedule
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the slightly trippy, time-traveling new drama "Life on Mars" will get a trial behind the seriously trippy, and possibly time-traveling, drama "Lost" at 10 p.m. Wednesdays.
post #97 of 236

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I just listened to the new podcast that covers the most recent two episodes. There is some good information there such as some characters that we have just met will be returning (one of the benefits of a longer season). One thing to know is that the next episode is the last of 2008. After that it will return in January with new episodes, presumably in the timeslot after Lost on January 28? (It would seem to be strange to take a break and return to Thursday for a few weeks and then move to Wednesday.)

This past week's episode appeared to explore the "insane" theory while the one before explored the "heaven/hell/purgatory" theory. This episode was similar to the S1 Episode 6 episode of the BBC series, though the hostage situation was taking place in a different location.

From the previews of the next episode it appears that his has elements Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
from the BBC first season finale. This is a big surprise as I thought they might not have this situation come up until end of the this first season.
Anyway, this upcoming episode should be a big one.
post #98 of 236

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I just got a bad feeling from Breaking News - ABC Adds "Unusuals," "Goode Family" to Wednesdays | TheFutonCritic.com
That has this new show - the Unusuals - coming in Wednesdays after Lost, which is where ABC was moving Life on Mars. Now it could be that ABC is just going with 13 episodes this season of Life on Mars and then will go to The Unusuals, or it could be that this next episode will be all we get.
post #99 of 236

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This music choices have been excellent and this week's show included a discussion on Tom Waits!
post #100 of 236

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Originally Posted by Robert Crawford
God, I'm so glad I never watched the UK show because it seems to negatively affect those that have seen it, their enjoyment level of the American show.


Agreed, I'm finding this is great, which probably means its getting cancelled
post #101 of 236

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God, I'm so glad I never watched the UK show because it seems to negatively affect those that have seen it, their enjoyment level of the American show.

I think the thing is, many who watched the UK show found it original, done in an original way, etc. So, when you see it remade, no matter how well it is remade, it's hard to live up to the original.

The UK version is different from the US version, and it's hard for some to seperate them. The UK version is like that old blanket you've had since you were in college. You love it. You know everything about. So, when you buy a new one, even though it's the same comforter, same company.. you can nitpick it because of things that have changed.

Just the way it goes.

That said, I do find the UK version superior in almost every aspect. That is a problem because so far, the US version hasn't offered anything "new". For those who've seen both seasons of the UK version, these episodes are like watching repeats.
post #102 of 236

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Thought this hostage episode was the weakest one so far, but it ended strong. It's still driving me crazy that Tyler is making ZERO effort to prove he is from the future. Man if it were me I would be dropping "predictions" left and right, if for no other reason than to have some fun with people.
post #103 of 236

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The UK version is different from the US version, and it's hard for some to seperate them.

my reasoning for watching the UK version was that i knew it was critically well received, and already had an ending. i didn't want to risk an inferior US version that might suck and prematurely end, and at the same time ruin the UK version for me. so if the US version evolves and grows away from the UK version, even better.
post #104 of 236

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Really enjoying this show and hope it survives or is at least given a chance to end gracefully, not just have the plug pulled.

I had never heard of the UK version until reading this thread, but now would like to see it sometime in the future.

Thank you to everyone for their use of spoilers.
post #105 of 236

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Originally Posted by Henry Gale
This music choices have been excellent and this week's show included a discussion on Tom Waits!

Great music! So far we've had:

Episode 1: Life On Mars (David Bowie), Ground Zero (Chris Cornell), Signs (Five Man Electric Band), Baba O'Riley (The Who), Little Willy (The Sweet), Out Of Time (The Rolling Stones).

Episode 2: All The Way To Memphis (Mott The Hoople), Get Down (Gilbert O'Sullivan), Life On Mars (David Bowie), I Am A Rock (Simon and Garfunkel).

Episode 3: Sweet Cherry Wine (Tommy James And The Shondells), I'm Chief Kamanawanalea (The Turtles), Just A Little Lovin' (Dusty Springfield), Reflections Of My Life (Marmalade).

Episode 4: Mother and Child Reunion (Paul Simon), Rock and Roll (The Velvet Underground), Bang a Gong (T. Rex), Lucky Lady (Jones Brothers), 20th Century Man (The Kinks), Long Cool Woman In A Black Dress (The Hollies), Long Promised Road (Beach Boys).

Episode 5: Wild In The Streets (Garland Jeffreys), I'm Gonna Keep On Loving You (Kool Blues), Come On And Get It (Marion Black), He Keeps You (Boscoe), Anywhere In Glory (Mighty Indiana Travelers), Everybody Is A Star (Sly & The Family Stone), Black and White (Three Dog Night).

Episode 6: Sweet Lucy (The Propositions), We're an American Band (Grand Funk Railroad), Going To Make a Time Machine (Majestic Arrows), Tuesday's Dead (Cat Stevens).
post #106 of 236

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I just got a bad feeling from Breaking News - ABC Adds "Unusuals," "Goode Family" to Wednesdays | TheFutonCritic.com
That has this new show - the Unusuals - coming in Wednesdays after Lost, which is where ABC was moving Life on Mars. Now it could be that ABC is just going with 13 episodes this season of Life on Mars and then will go to The Unusuals, or it could be that this next episode will be all we get.

Interesting, also given that networks pull the plug on so many new shows like My Own Worst Enemy. I wouldn't be surprised if they did cancel Mars because of the ratings which never really took off. I think Heroes is on the edge with them replacing the new writers to see if they can save that show and don't expect it back for a 4th season unless things really turn around for the new staff and show direction.

Will be interesting to see what happens to Mars.
post #107 of 236

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Originally Posted by Joe_H
Agreed, I'm finding this is great, which probably means its getting cancelled
You're probably right. It's the only television show I watch so if it gets cancelled it's back to zero network television for me except news and sports.
post #108 of 236

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Originally Posted by mattCR
That said, I do find the UK version superior in almost every aspect. That is a problem because so far, the US version hasn't offered anything "new". For those who've seen both seasons of the UK version, these episodes are like watching repeats.
Which is my point, by never seeing the original it's like seeing stuff brand new without any prior knowledge.





Crawdaddy
post #109 of 236

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Was that ending tonight similar to the UK version?

Also, now we have a long break before this comes back or something, don't we?

I hate cliffhangers sometimes.
post #110 of 236

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Originally Posted by Joe_H
Was that ending tonight similar to the UK version?

Also, now we have a long break before this comes back or something, don't we?

I hate cliffhangers sometimes.
The ending was quite different. In the UK version, Sam decided to let his father run away so he wouldn't traumatize his family by arresting him. I don't think he was shot. The business at the very end is a completely new idea. The business of it being Annie in the red dress and Sam remembering the repressed memory of her chasing his father and his father turning on her was similar to the UK version.

It comes back with new episodes on January 28 - on Wednesday's following Lost.
post #111 of 236

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ABC Greenlit four more episodes.

Breaking News - "Mars" Gets Four More Episodes, New Home | TheFutonCritic.com
post #112 of 236

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I think this is the first time I've liked the U.S. version of a re-made U.K. episode better. This was a pretty good re-telling. It gives me hope for the U.S. version.

And Music from this episode was: Everything I Own (Bread), Reeling In The Years (Steely Dan), Spaceman (Harry Nilsson), and once again Life On Mars (David Bowie).
post #113 of 236

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Finally got to see the unaired pilot on this the other day. I like elements of both the Aired and Unaired, For example the Unaired Takes Place in Los Angeles not NY, and While I can see why they switch (especially showing the Towers in the Pilot) it almost feels in the Aired show that he has come back to the TV/Movie Idea of the 1970's. Like he's beamed into an episode of Kojak. The LA Setting was undoubtely 1970 but more low Key.

Also lower key and less over the Top, and therefore more Believable was the performances for Colm Meaney and Lenny Clark. I've always enjoyed both, Colm from DS9 and Lenny From the Job and Rescue Me. Now Scoring Keitel and Impierioli were big, but there performances really are out there. While Meany and Clark give good understated performaces. Gretchen Mol is the one bit of casting that I found better in the new version, however the performance of her character in the original was less subserviant, she was a detective, things were not quite as backward, there were female detectives just not a whole lot of them and they were'nt treated very well.

I like the fact that the new version keeps you a bit more in the dark on his situation. Both versions are decent and I hope the show sticks around a bit.
post #114 of 236

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Any guesses on what's in the basement? I wasn't happy to see that I would have to wait until January to find out but I guess that's a good indication of how much I like the show.
post #115 of 236

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...however the performance of her character in the original was less subserviant, she was a detective, things were not quite as backward, there were female detectives just not a whole lot of them and they were'nt treated very well.

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Annie wasn't a detective in the UK version until the second season.


I like how Sam's mother's name is Rose Tyler. I read that the daughter of the creator of the UK version is a big Doctor Who fan and that's where the name came from.
post #116 of 236

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OK, it's January, where's my show?
post #117 of 236

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Originally Posted by Henry Gale
OK, it's January, where's my show?

It comes back Wednesday, the 28th with new episodes after "Lost".
post #118 of 236

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The first seven episodes have return to the ABC.com full-episode player.

http://abc.go.com/player/index?pn=in...&season=143824

If you missed out on "Life on Mars", here's your chance.
post #119 of 236

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It seemed to me that they sort of toned down the music in this episode, I wonder if they were trying to cut costs or something?

Also, was it just me or did they totally ignore that phonecall cliffhanger from the last episode?
post #120 of 236

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Also, was it just me or did they totally ignore that phonecall cliffhanger from the last episode?

That's what I was thinking. It was like this ep was aired out of order or something.
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