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post #181 of 236

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Originally Posted by Nelson Au

... if this is 1973, then the Police Woman TV series wasn't on till 1974.


You're correct Nelson, the first Police Woman aired on September 13th, 1974.

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post #182 of 236

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Yeah, I thought it was pretty weak how they got shot by a gangster at point-blank range and both lived (with one of them out of the hospital and back to work seemingly within hours). Nevertheless, I enjoyed the episode (even though it was predictable who was behind it).
post #183 of 236

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Originally Posted by ScottH
Yeah, I thought it was pretty weak how they got shot by a gangster at point-blank range and both lived (with one of them out of the hospital and back to work seemingly within hours). Nevertheless, I enjoyed the episode (even though it was predictable who was behind it).
Probably small caliber handgun. (22, 25, or 32: Saturday Night Special) Not a lot of stopping power.
post #184 of 236

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Plus, one of the nurses said Ray had just been grazed.
post #185 of 236

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Originally Posted by Kevin Hewell
Plus, one of the nurses said Ray had just been grazed.

Yeah but that's the thing, do you expect a gangster like that to miss and just graze the person?
post #186 of 236

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He did that stupid TV "pull two guns out at once at shoot thing". It's quite possible he was concentrating more on one target than the other.
post #187 of 236

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I finally got around to watching this week's episode earlier today. Watching it with the realization that there is only one episode left me with mixed feelings - the visceral enjoyment of watching one of the better episodes of the season mixed with the disappointment that it all will end much too soon.

I absolutely loved the toy factory party sequence accompanied by the great "Go All the Way" by the Raspberries.

Also experienced a brief "is that who I think it is?" moment when I saw Scott Adsit from 30 Rock.

- Walter.
post #188 of 236

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The Show they are replacing it with "The Unusuals" I'm not too sure they are going to do anybetter ratings wise with this, of course it does'nt have the major star power so it must be a heck of a lot cheaper to make...
post #189 of 236

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Not sure but the gun Macmanus used looked a lot bigger then a 22, 25, or 32.

Don't know what the ABC execs want but this seemed to be one of the better shows on TV, not sure why they would cancel it. How many shows excel at the 10pm spot? I hated it beyond belief when they put Lost on at 10pm a year or two ago, I could never stay up.
post #190 of 236

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Never been so disappointed in a series ending. How ridiculous!
post #191 of 236

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They should have ended it with him hanging up the phone. I'm very disappointed. The more I think about it, I wish that this had been one of those nights that the DVR cut off too soon or for that matter I would have rather been left hanging as to what happened to Sam,Annie and the rest of the guys
post #192 of 236

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Well I believe that it had to end with it all "being in Sam's head", so a virtual reality experience isn't out of the question.

They could have ended it with Sam hanging up the phone; but wouldn't folks have complained about the unresolved questions surrounding Sam's time in 1973? Just saying that a weak answer is still better than no answer at all. (At least for me. I thought it was an okay way to conclude the series.)

- Walter.
post #193 of 236

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That was way out there. I guess given the circumstances of the series ending prematurely, I wasn't expecting much. I did think Gene being Sam's dad was a nice touch.
post #194 of 236

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So what do you think was the third thing he had to do was?

That was a Total Recall-ish ending and it was a WTH moment. I assume the UK version was different. I had read that no matter what happens to the series, cancelled or not, this was intended for the American version.

Sam's comment about David Bowie continuing to pop up, I guess was the clue. The series starts with a Bowie song and ends with Major Tom.
post #195 of 236

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I stopped watching this show early in its run, but came back for the last few. Wow! This ending was bizarre and out there: "Life on Mars", literally! While the show never grabbed me, on the basis of this gutsy finale, I respect this show, and am glad ABC let it finish properly.

When you look at the whole series... it's not like this is coming out of nowhere, with all the little bugs and robots and space references... they've obviously had this in mind from the very beginning. This was a "movie" version of the 1970s because it was virtual / programmed.

In terms of "dream cop-outs", if you're gonna do it, you gotta go all out. And they went WAAAAY out. Bravo.
post #196 of 236

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It makes me wonder- how would the show have continued if it wasn't cancelled with such a strange conclusion for season 1?
post #197 of 236

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I have to disagree with what seems to be the majority opinion here. I actually liked the ending a lot and was surprised, and not disappointed that it ended the way that it did. In fact, the more I think about it, the more sense that it makes given the premise and the context of the whole show.

The fact that we are supposed to accept the fact that the main character and several others along the way have suddenly time travelled back 35 years in some strange time warp or similar has us all guessing what's going on and probably expecting some weird type of explanation. The actual ending provides an answer in a way that could be a reasonable explanation given the circumstances. In fact, it brings into focus the fact that the clue was staring us in the face all the time - the title of the show! To me it was brilliant and not a cop out at all (no pun intended.)

Having now watched this whole series to its conclusion I'm glad that I didn't watch the BBC version first - especially if it ends the same way for that would have spoiled it for me. Can someone out there who is familiar with the British version tell me if it ends in similar fashion? I'll definitely be getting the original BBC version when released on DVD later this year in any event.

True, the series had to rush to judgement thanks to ABC's decision to cut it short but the conclusion was anything but a patchwork ending to me. It was logical, true to the clues throughout the series (in addition to the title there were all those mini-bots, etc. suggesting future technology, etc.) and was very satisfying to this viewer.

I seem to recall a similar outcry when The Sopranos ended in a rather "disappointing" fashion. Now that some time has passed more and more people are beginning to realize that the fade to black was probably one of the better ways to make a statement about Tony's lifestyle and where everything was going. Not that I'm trying to place Life on Mars on the same level of programming as The Sopranos. In my opinion the former was a very good series and the latter is one of the finest series in the history of television.

And in similar fashion I will note that for me, Life on Mars was the more entertaining event on ABC tonight. Lost was great (as it usually is) but Life on Mars was my favorite for the evening. There's no contradiction here as I still consider Lost to be the more memorable series and right up there in the same lofty position as The Sopranos in the hierarchy of all time greats. But in the very strong 9-11 time slot for ABC TV on this particular Wednesday Life on Mars was the highlight in a very good TV evening.

I can't think of a better way for this series to reach a conclusion now that I have the benefit of hindsight. And the fact that it totally came out of left field for me makes it even more satisfying. I loved it.


post #198 of 236

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I'm with RAF, I really enjoyed that ending. It didn't feel like a cop-out, we-didn't-know-how-else-to-end-it, "it was all a dream", Dallas-like conclusion. They were writing toward this ending from the very start. Even if the show had been renewed, Sam's escapades in 1973 could have gone on and on until cancellation.

"gene hunt", Windy the computer, Major Tom -- all great references in that end segment.

Which Obama do you suppose was president, Malia or Sasha?
post #199 of 236

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Originally Posted by MielR
It makes me wonder- how would the show have continued if it wasn't cancelled with such a strange conclusion for season 1?
I'm guessing we wouldn't have seen that ending had the series not been canceled.

To the people that thought the ending was a cop-out, how else could they have ended it without there being some degree of "copping out"? I think the ending that most people were expecting, that he was in a coma or something to that effect, could be considered a cop-out as well.
post #200 of 236

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Can someone out there who is familiar with the British version tell me if it ends in similar fashion?
Completely and utterly different. And I'll leave it at that.
post #201 of 236

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There's a post earlier in this thread (inside spoiler tags) that tells the conclusion of the British version.
post #202 of 236

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In season 2, they were going to land on Mars and it was supposed to be full of talking apes!

Seriously though, I loved the whole show, beginning to end.
And yes, the clues were there to put together what was happening...if you believe in long sleep, space travel.
post #203 of 236

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I've slept on it and this morning I am not as shocked by the ending. I agree, the clues were there all along. When the robots first started showing up, I didn't know what to make of them. Were they toys? And the Bowie songs too. And the Luke Skywalker reference worked on 2 levels.

Of course the title was Life on Mars, but I wanted it to mean that Sam was out of his element. And he was, and then he did.

I also was thinking, in refection, that it sort of felt like The Wizard of Oz too. Sam wakes up from a dream.

I was a bit disappointed at first by the ending. I was expecting something more, and I wanted to be blown away. And I was blown away, just not what I would have imagined it. Maybe I wanted to see him back in 2009. But the shot of him in 2010 and an elderly Annie was a clue that wasn't going to happen. I like it now and it all makes sense.

The showed ended with the title Life on Mars 2035. So I thought President Obama was Michelle. So she'd be in her 60's by then
post #204 of 236

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Here's a good review of the final episode that I happen to agree with ...

Salon.com Arts & Entertainment | Finale wrap-up: "Life on Mars"

I thoroughly enjoyed the show, though I thought the last two episodes were actually weaker than some of the previous episodes.

The ending seemed rushed and tacked on, but what can you expect given the circumstances of the cancelling of the show.

The actors, most of the scripts, the quirky but appropriate '70s music, and the sci-fi elements were all great. And "Mona Lisas and Mad Hatters" is my favorite Elton John song of the era, so Bravo.

But what happened to the Lisa Bonet character or storyline? Did I miss it or did they just ignore it?
post #205 of 236

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Originally Posted by Michael Reuben
Completely and utterly different. And I'll leave it at that.

Thank you for the clarification, Michael. I've been looking forward to watching the British version later this year on DVD because of the good reviews and it's nice to know that they end up going in another direction because that intrigues me even more. I think I'll avoid any spoilers on that score until I view it.

On a related matter, several people here have commented that they felt that the finale was "rushed" a bit. While the writers didn't have the time to completely flesh out all the storylines because of only one month's notice of cancellation - which could give it the appearance of seeming rushed - I really think that what we saw as the finale was the intent all along. Everything from the title to the various clues throughout the season point in that direction and I think if the series had been allowed to play out for another season or so we would have seen a firmer "setup" for the final outcome. But I don't fall on the side of those who termed the finale "dumb" but extremely clever. One of those "of course!" moments. And if I'm wrong and the writers pulled that scenario out of a hat at the last moment then they are some very good magicians and should be complimented for that. But I'm going to venture a guess that this was where the story orbit was headed from the start (no pun intended).

In any event a most interesting ending to a thoroughly enjoyable series for me. I'm recommending the upcoming DVD series set to all of my friends. I'm going to miss this show but I'd rather have it end as a complete package rather than hanging on after it's worn out its welcome. That's far too common on TV nowadays and the really good series go out with a flourish rather than with a whimper.
post #206 of 236

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Originally Posted by ScottH
I'm guessing we wouldn't have seen that ending had the series not been canceled.
So, the ending was shot after the the cancellation was known about?
post #207 of 236

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Originally Posted by JimKr
Never been so disappointed in a series ending.


Me too, for a different reason.

Didn't get to see it. My DVR decided to sit that one out.
Never had any luck with watching episodes on line, won't be purchasing the DVD set, there won't be reruns...guess I'm S.O.L.

I just wanted to see Miss Gretchen one more time.
post #208 of 236

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The showed ended with the title Life on Mars 2035. So I thought President Obama was Michelle. So she'd be in her 60's by then

I believe that the President Obama referenced in 2035 was Barack's oldest daughter - Malia Ann as Sasha would be too young to hold the office.

(The ending has kind of grown on me today as I've reconsidered it in light of some of the show's earlier content.)

- Walter.
post #209 of 236

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Wow, what a cool ending, and one that I hadn't thought of (and of course, wasn't on Sam's list of possibilities).

If you didn't like the ending, at least be glad there was one, rather than just leaving it all a mystery (which is what I was afraid might happen).

Really sad to see this show end, but at least it did come to a conclusion, unlike so many other series that have wrapped a season when they learn of the cancellation.

Wanna bet the replacement show does no better in the ratings?
post #210 of 236

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Wanna bet the replacement show does no better in the ratings?

From the looks of it, I'd bet it does much worse.
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