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New Nathan Fillion Series - Castle - Mystery Writer Turned Sleuth Coming To ABC!

post #1 of 87
10/8/08 at 7:22pm
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Hopefully this time the criminally under-appreciated Nathan Fillion will strike gold with this series:

YouTube - Castle Trailer
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post #2 of 87
10/8/08 at 7:39pm

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He is one of the better actors working right now. Show looks interesting. Honestly, it probably wont last,but, I'll check it out just because He's in it.
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post #3 of 87
10/8/08 at 7:40pm

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Is there any evidence that this made it past a pilot?
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post #4 of 87
10/9/08 at 10:47am

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Murder, he wrote!
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post #5 of 87
3/9/09 at 6:07am

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This show finally gets underway tonight at 10 p.m. EDT on ABC after Dancing with the Stars (so hopefully, it'll retain enough viewership to stay on the schedule).
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post #6 of 87
3/9/09 at 11:00am

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I'm all over this show.

I was reading an article and they were saying that it's going to be the opposite of Moonlightling. The article said that when they got together in Moonlightling, the show was over. So they said they are going to keep these characters apart as much as possible and that they have many situations in order to keep them fully apart.

I do hope this show makes it, but I have my doubts.
It seems that its being heavily advertised, and I'm not sure thats a good or bad thing.
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post #7 of 87
3/9/09 at 11:49am

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One problem...Its up against CSI:Miami. Which might take a lot of the same demographic.
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post #8 of 87
3/9/09 at 12:27pm

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I don't understand why the romantic tension works for the audience. It's a trend that sticks around, but you used to have the reverse that was a success.

Give me a "Hart to Hart" remake Sure, there isn't Robert Wagner / Stafanie Powers hanging around, but this could be cast and done well.

(For those that forget, full episodes: http://www.hulu.com/watch/7875/hart-...ue-chip-murder )
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post #9 of 87
3/9/09 at 12:31pm

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Originally Posted by JohnS
It seems that its being heavily advertised, and I'm not sure thats a good or bad thing.

Personally, I think it's a bad thing, the commercials have made me less interested in it than I'd have previously been.
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post #10 of 87
3/9/09 at 3:58pm

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Personally, I think it's a bad thing, the commercials have made me less interested in it than I'd have previously been.

It just seems to cry out desperation, "Please watch this show!"

I'm actually more scared off by their other heavily advertised shows
Better of Ted and The Unusuals

I can't stand when that hot dog guy is in the jail and the female detective replies with
"Who yeah gonna call the Hamburgler?"
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post #11 of 87
3/9/09 at 7:56pm

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I've had zero interesting in watching the show, even though I'm quite familiar with Nathan Fillion (even when he was a soap opera actor). I'm reading the thread to see what others eventually think about it.

As for the advertising, I don't think I've ever seen so much advertising for a show.
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post #12 of 87
3/9/09 at 8:04pm

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It seemed like a more adult, less zany version of "Psych" to me. I did like that the female detective wasn't as much of a tight-ass as the promos made her seem. I'm not sure the mother or daughter characters quite work; after watching "Dharma & Greg" for so many years, Susan Sullivan's performance as Kitty shines through a little too much here—and the smart, precocious daughter is too cute by half.

Still, I'll be back next week.
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post #13 of 87
3/9/09 at 8:47pm

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I just started watching my recording of this and remembered... the lead actress in this, looks nearly identical to the one in SVU. I really thought it was going to be the same person, they could be sisters.
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post #14 of 87
3/9/09 at 8:49pm

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Too bad I've seen the promos far too many times, totally gave away the resolution, but a decent pilot episode.
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post #15 of 87
3/9/09 at 10:12pm

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I tuned in because of those commercials. And because of Nathan Fillion.

I liked what I saw. There were some good touches -- the daughter who is more sensible than her father was well played, and the scene where he slides her across the smooth wood floor was very homey in a good way. The way that the author kept his lesser works down underneath instead of up on display on his shelf was an authentic touch.

And that Fillion's character seemingly did not care about the victims is fine, in that he will evolve into a more compassionate man over the course of the series thanks to being exposed to real people's tragedies.

I did not mind that his love interest appears to be a lesbian. She's a good character and she's played by a good actress, so I'll just accept that her character in this fantasy tv world is supposedly heterosexual. And yes, obviously the person who was killed, which led to her becoming a cop, was her former husband. That was telegraphed loud and clear.

Both of those elements -- her grief over the lost husband, and her unstated lesbianism -- will keep Fillion's character at bay as far as actual snoggy romance is concerned. They can become good friends. And go shopping together. Seriously. They'll make a good platonic couple who love each other.

Good casting all the way 'round.

I would not mind if the stories aim for some more complexity than seen in the pilot episode.
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post #16 of 87
3/9/09 at 10:53pm

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Where are you getting the lesbian angle from? She's a tough woman, but she definitely seemed to be enjoying his advances through the episode. I know Katic has played lesbians before, and might even be a lesbian in the real world. I fail to see how any of that has a bearing on this show, unless were shown something that points us in that direction.
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post #17 of 87
3/9/09 at 11:08pm

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This was a great pilot that felt so comfortable to watch. It didn't feel like a pilot even though it played out like one. That probably doesn't make sense. I'm okay with that.
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post #18 of 87
3/9/09 at 11:35pm

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Originally Posted by Will_B
and the scene where he slides her across the smooth wood floor was very homey in a good way. The way that the author kept his lesser works down underneath instead of up on display on his shelf was an authentic touch.

I agree, two very simple things that made it feel much more real. (Especially the first part about with the daughter).
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post #19 of 87
3/10/09 at 4:31am

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Wasn't good enought to keep me interested. I'll pass and stick with The Mentalist.
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post #20 of 87
3/10/09 at 8:58am

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Luckily for me, I've only heard one promo of the show on the radio (of all places).

I thought the first episode was enjoyable, and will stick with it for now! Probably won't last, as it seems like no show will survive, going opposite of CSI: Miami.
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post #21 of 87
3/10/09 at 10:04am

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I liked it and I'll keep watching.
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post #22 of 87
3/10/09 at 10:49am

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I fell asleep 1/3 of the way in, woke up and saw the last 15 minutes. I blame the time change. It had some promise.

But I was so surprised to see Susan Sullivan in it. Wow, she's aged!
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post #23 of 87
3/10/09 at 11:13am

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I was interested for months, but it took some effort for me to hit play on my recording when the time came. I'm glad I did, because it was a fast, enjoyable hour of tele. I'll come back for more.
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post #24 of 87
3/10/09 at 12:16pm

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I liked it. Fun, good chemistry, I hope Patterson and Cannel are recurring characters. I'll be back next week.

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I did not mind that his love interest appears to be a lesbian.

Add me to the list of people who have no idea where this came from. Were we watching the same show?

Regards,

Joe
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post #25 of 87
3/10/09 at 2:00pm

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Ratings results for the return of Dancing With the Stars Monday must have had ABC execs dancing on their desks today (Tuesday). The two hour show averaged 22.50 million viewers, up from 21.15 million a year ago. ... However, hopes that the ABC hit would help deliver a big audience for the series premiere of the drama Castle were dashed when only 11.60 million viewers stuck around at 10:00 p.m.

I forgot it was on. Will have to try and catch it next week.
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post #26 of 87
3/10/09 at 3:35pm

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Originally Posted by Joseph DeMartino
Add me to the list of people who have no idea where this came from. Were we watching the same show?

Regards,

Joe

Well I can't be the only one whose gaydar goes off when I see her, because she's been cast as a lesbian in other works -- so casting directors must agree she puts out that vibe. The actress claims that in real life she's straight, for what that's worth.
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post #27 of 87
3/10/09 at 3:47pm

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I don't have a gaydar--as far as I know, Liberace loved the ladies--but I really don't get it from Stana. I see a really pretty lady with short hair. I don't like the word "claim," because it leaves it open that she may be lying. If someone says they are 100% heterosexual (as she did) or 100% homosexual, I'll take them at the word. Even if it were not the case, it doesn't seem to matter. I think that Penn dude just won an Oscar for playing a gay guy, and no one seemed to have a problem with it.

That's as far as I want to delve into the topic, other than to say if she wants to make out with one of Castle's groupies, I won't turn off the TV.
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post #28 of 87
3/10/09 at 5:47pm

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because she's been cast as a lesbian in other works -- so casting directors must agree she puts out that vibe.

Right. It couldn't possibly be that casting directors are lazy, so when they're asked to cast a lesbian the first person they think of is the last person they saw play a lesbian. (Because if that sort of thing went on, there might be a tendency to constantly cast actors in similar roles, giving rise to something called "type-casting" - and we all know that doesn't happen in real life. ) And it couldn't be that she's been cast in more than one gay simply because she was willing to do it the first time she was asked, and not every actor is.

In any event, I don't usually project an actor's past work onto his or her current role, and there was simply nothing in the pilot that remotely suggested that the detective was gay. No little hints, no meaningful looks, no odd interactions with any of the male characters - nada, zip nothing. I say, "Gaydar, schmaydar."

Regards,

Joe
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post #29 of 87
3/10/09 at 6:10pm

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I thoroughly enjoyed it! It shows promise as long as they keep it fresh. Let's hope ABC doesn't muck it up.

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post #30 of 87
3/10/09 at 6:10pm

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It was ok for a pilot - here's hoping it can be more than just another police procedural. Nathan Fillion is always interesting, but we'll have to wait to see if the writing will approach that of Firefly. I'll check out a couple more eps to see what develops. They have pretty good chemistry.
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