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post #421 of 461
Mike,

I've advertised other items for months (years?) on this Forum that IMO are much more valuable to my wife and I than money. :)

But since you asked, we have several guns in our home for our protection.  And there is a dog that would tear anyone apart whom he does not know if we were not there to warn an intruder. I think we're safe. :)
post #422 of 461
Okay.  I'll breathe easier now. 
post #423 of 461
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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon View Post

Okay.  I'll breathe easier now. 

 

Mike,

I just sent you a PM -- with cash. ;)
post #424 of 461
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Originally Posted by Ockeghem View Post

Mike,

I just sent you a PM -- with cash. ;)
 

Sorry, I only accept PayPal (from "verified" members)! 
post #425 of 461
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon View Post

But, Scott, is it smart to be advertising such with your name and state in plain view on a widely-read internet forum?!? 

Maybe I'm being too much of a worrywart.

Perhaps, but others before have detailed their vast media collections, their expensive computer setups, and given good indications of overall affluence.
post #426 of 461
And...I've also read horror stories from members here about burglaries in which good portions of their "stuff" (some irreplaceable) is gone when they return home.  I always wonder. 
post #427 of 461
Did someone mention home burglaries?

Don't skimp on home insurance!  
post #428 of 461
Speak of the devil!

Your ears must've been burning...
post #429 of 461
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Originally Posted by DaveF View Post



Perhaps, but others before have detailed their vast media collections, their expensive computer setups, and given good indications of overall affluence.
 

Still, I would be lying if I said I wasn't a tad concerned when I look at your avatar.

LOL. ;)  (BTW, where is that wink emoticon?)
post #430 of 461
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Originally Posted by DaveF View Post

I'll add I too buy what I can pay for, only with a credit card. I don't like using cash; I can't track it and I don't want to carry large sums in my wallet. Keeping everything on credit card enables us to track our expenses and monitor the budget.
I'm the same way. I used to be cash only, but when I lived in Boston for three years a cash-based existence was virtually impossible because so much of the daily necessities are completely automated in the city now. I don't like debit cards because of the risk of identity theft; there's no intermediary between you and the scammer like there is with credit cards. To keep things from getting out of control, I prevent myself from charging anything for the following month if I carry a balance after paying the bill. I hate interest.

However, it sound like Scott's family has had problems with credit cards and debt. If that's the case, I suppose it's like alcoholics and A.A.; once you hop on the bandwagon, you can never have another drink/credit card again.
post #431 of 461
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Originally Posted by Todd Hochard View Post

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Originally Posted by DaveF
Won't the "rules" remain the same: buy index funds, use sensible asset allocation, think long term, and don't try to actively beat the market?
Those rules applied over the last ten years have netted a 16% return in the S&P. That's 16% total in 10 years, not per annum. You would have gotten better rates from a bank CD, or an ING Direct savings account.

Ask me how I know.
Couple that with reasonable rebalance and diverse allocation and the return is MUCH better..   If all you want to consider is equity; I'm more interested in what they will do more so than what they have done - and considering we are on the backside of a global near-meltdown of historic proportion - the fact equities are up at all is quite impressive.   Not every 10 years has had positive performance, but every 20 has...  Reversion to the mean is a powerful force...

Meanwhile there are intelligent ways to hedge your retirement nest-egg so that the risk is further mitigated...  but that something best left for your financial advisor to explain...

Or you could get a 2% CD and net 16% in 8 years...   2 sooner than the worst 10 year period stocks have done in your lifetime...   :)
post #432 of 461
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Eric_L View Post

Couple that with reasonable rebalance and diverse allocation and the return is MUCH better..  
Rebalancing: a late addition to my financial knowledge. It will be an important part of all future plans.
post #433 of 461
As gas prices inch over $4/gallon, I decided it was foolish not to get into the rewards card game. After researching the various gas rewards cards, I applied for the AmEx Blue Cash Everyday card because I didn't want to get tied down to one gas brand like Hess or ExxonMobil. I thought it was a bit of a stretch considering my relatively thin credit history -- several student loans, only one existing credit card, but no car loans or home loans -- I guess that paying in full every month and have never missing a payment on anything weighs more than having a long, deep (but imperfect) credit history. When I got the formal approval letter in the mail today, I was surprised to discover that they included my FICO score, which I never wanted to pay for so never received previously. It was 815 out of 850, which was honestly a lot better than I was expecting.
post #434 of 461
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Unless you're a cash-only budgeted, having a good rewards credit card is nice. Not just for gas--which may not be the largest part of your monthly expenses--since it all adds up and getting 1% back is nice.

We like the chase rewards visa, since we prefer cash, rather than being tied to specific services in general. Though I'm right now taking advantage of a cross promotion and cashing in our rewards in for Amazon GCs.
post #435 of 461
Yep, I also find the Chase Amazon Visa to be quite useful: 2% back on gas, drug store purchases (of whatever), restaurants and one or two other types of "everyday expenses" that elude me right now. That's beyond the 3% back for Amazon purchases, including Marketplace transactions it seems though not imports from their oversea sites (eg. Amazon UK). All other transactions get a standard 1% back.

And their customer service/support seems pretty good as far as such goes particularly for Visa/Mastercard banks.

I also sometimes use Discover Card, particular when transactions can go thru their online portal for substantial extra cashback.

But yeah, I mostly use the Chase Amazon and AMEX.

_Man_
post #436 of 461
Thread Starter 

I got the Amazon Visa last year for the $50 sign-up bonus. We use it for Amazon purchases and the Rewards for everything else. (I don't care to make the effort to segregate credit card use by purchase type. That's one reason I've not used my Discover card in five years.)

post #437 of 461

AMEX for everything. Every summer we trade in points for a pile of Home Depot $100 cards to pay for home improvement purchases. My wife wants to replace the grill this summer so at least half of that will be paid for by rewards points.

post #438 of 461
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I got the Amazon Visa last year for the $50 sign-up bonus. We use it for Amazon purchases and the Rewards for everything else. (I don't care to make the effort to segregate credit card use by purchase type. That's one reason I've not used my Discover card in five years.)

Since Costco switched from taking Discover to AMEX a few years ago (maybe 6-8 years ago), I didn't use my Discover card in years, and finally Discover canceled the Discover card for me and closed my account with them.
post #439 of 461

Yeah, like i implied, I rarely use my Discover card either, except when it occurs to me to go thru their online portal -- mainly for B&N purchases like when they run their occasional Criterion sales, but now, I notice they stopped offering the extra cashback for B&N, so...  Can't recall using it in an actual physical store, except maybe once or twice at a restaurant when they gave one of those rather limited 5% cashback deals for a couple months at a time.  I noticed that Chase has started doing the same thing as Discover for my other, ancient Chase CC account (originally from my college days), which has gone thru its share of changes over the years.

 

Anyway, I definitely prefer AMEX if I'm charging anything that involves any remote risks of problems as I trust their service much more than any of the others.  Discover does seem to have pretty nice CSR though on the couple occasions I found a need to call them, and Chase seems fine enough to be my goto CC bank when I need to use a Visa card and find the extra cashback bonuses being worthwhile when there's no notable risk involved.  For instance, I definitely prefer AMEX anytime I do an eBay transaction -- and I don't care what PayPal claims about their service protection, but I'm not about to rely only on them to settle any potential issues w/ an eBay transaction.

 

If it's easy enough and risk-free enough to bother earning the extra cashback/bonuses (or get cashback instead of mere reward points), then ok.  Otherwise, I'll stick w/ my ancient AMEX account for most transactions that don't benefit noticeably from using a different card...

 

_Man_

 

post #440 of 461
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Originally Posted by DaveF View Post

I got the Amazon Visa last year for the $50 sign-up bonus. We use it for Amazon purchases and the Rewards for everything else. (I don't care to make the effort to segregate credit card use by purchase type. That's one reason I've not used my Discover card in five years.)

I did the same thing. I purchase enough things through Amazon to make the rewards useful. I cancelled my Discover Card many years ago after my wife experienced two separate fraudulent charge issues with hers and Discover did nothing to prosecute the perpetrators. Both Chase and Citibank took fraud seriously, but Discover didn't seem like they could be bothered from our experience.
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post #442 of 461
I often wonder how much economic downturn there would be, if you took the media out of the equation.
post #443 of 461

I've been using my credit card a lot more than ever, but that's mainly to earn award points. It also means I don't have to carry a lot of cash or make constant withdrawals from the ATM.

 

I don't bother being in the whole "keeping up with the Joneses" when it comes to having the latest gadget like a Blackberry or I-Pad, or even a flat screen TV, when I still have 3 old TVs still working fine. It sucks that I can't access Facebook whenever I want to, but not really worth the money for that alone.

 

In some ways, saving money would be a little more healthy for me, as I had to quit drinking soda, where the costs just added up big-time. One of the hardest things for me to do, with the summer months approaching, and I like relaxing and sipping on a Big Gulp.

post #444 of 461

I've been on a massive "budget" spree the last year or so.  I have an entire spreadsheet workbook with budget pages for every paycheck, including what bills need to be paid from which paycheck.  With the economy doing what it's doing and my intent to buy a house/condo in a few months, it seemed like a good idea at the time and I think it's still a great idea.  I created very aggressive money goals before 2012 started for my IRA's, HSA and savings.  I know for sure I won't hit the savings goal-I had some car problems last week which are gonna cost a bit.  But I have the cash for them. 

 

Some co-workers make fun of me because I get excited at the end of the month when I check my balances and import them into the workbook to see where my overall assets are compared to last month.  May 2012 isn't gonna look too good, I think, but that's expected. 

 

(I have three credit cards which are paid off in full with every paycheck.  One is a gas card, another is a backup to the emergency backup and hardly ever used and the third is strictly for travel-like October's HTF National Meet.)

 

Out are daily Starbucks trips, random movie shopping and all that other stuff I used to do.  I still get one iced coffee a week and one Slurpee a week (Friday)...  So to answer the question: yes, my behavior has changed.  It was time for me to grow up (and I'm tired of paying rent on something I don't own).

post #445 of 461

Jason:

 

All I can say about that post is "atta boy" to every single word.

 

Good for you.

 

Your co-workers are only making fun of you to cover their own inadequacies.  They are probably wondering how they are going to ever pay the minimum payment on their credit card bills this month. 

post #446 of 461
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I still get one iced coffee a week and one Slurpee a week (Friday)... 

 

Speaking of Slurpees, 7-Eleven today, gave away free Slurpees, until 7 PM. I did not know until I stopped by one and saw a sign for it. After then, stopped by a couple more, trying the different flavors. biggrin.gif

 

I need to do that myself, when it comes to getting a Friendly's ice cream, limiting to once a week or every other week, as I love to eat the Peanut Butter Cup Sundae, but oh man, it's very pricey.

post #447 of 461
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Originally Posted by Jason_V View Post

I've been on a massive "budget" spree the last year or so.  I have an entire spreadsheet workbook with budget pages for every paycheck, including what bills need to be paid from which paycheck.  With the economy doing what it's doing and my intent to buy a house/condo in a few months, it seemed like a good idea at the time and I think it's still a great idea.  I created very aggressive money goals before 2012 started for my IRA's, HSA and savings.  I know for sure I won't hit the savings goal-I had some car problems last week which are gonna cost a bit.  But I have the cash for them. 

 

Some co-workers make fun of me because I get excited at the end of the month when I check my balances and import them into the workbook to see where my overall assets are compared to last month.  May 2012 isn't gonna look too good, I think, but that's expected. 

 

(I have three credit cards which are paid off in full with every paycheck.  One is a gas card, another is a backup to the emergency backup and hardly ever used and the third is strictly for travel-like October's HTF National Meet.)

 

Out are daily Starbucks trips, random movie shopping and all that other stuff I used to do.  I still get one iced coffee a week and one Slurpee a week (Friday)...  So to answer the question: yes, my behavior has changed.  It was time for me to grow up (and I'm tired of paying rent on something I don't own).

Good for you Jason. 

 

My wife and I are starting to crack down on the budget here too, identifying where money is going and cutting out things that aren't needed.  For several years we have been charging all our expenses to a rewards CC every month and then paying it off monthly to not carry a balance. 

 

We are also trying to be a bit more prepared for unexpected things: building up savings in case of financial hardship, having some basic emergency supplies on hand in case of a natural disaster since we live in earthquake/volcano country.  Its a real eyeopener how much things shutdown here with just a few inches of snow on the ground; God help us if there is a major earthquake.  (Note: not a prepper, don't think the world will end in 2012, just taking a common sense approach as recommend by CDC).  Verifying we have adequate insurance, getting a will drawn up, and things organized.  In short like Jason said, growing up.

 

We have over the past year bought and learned how to use firearms for protection at home.  Although we are close to civilization, we are hidden off the main path and there have been too many burglaries in our area lately where people high on meth decide to pay homeowners a visit by kicking in doors.  I thought it would be a tough sell at home but it really wasn't thanks to the high number of cases where local homeowners have defended themselves with them lately.  She seems to feel a bit safer knowing she has access to it if she needs to protect herself or the kids.

 

I think the economy has changed our parenting a bit.  We are fortunate that we can give our kids pretty much whatever they need or want (its easy when they are six).  They aren't spoiled, but we are cutting back on "stuff", staring to try to teach them the value of a buck, and working hard to be able to earn something.  Making them get their hands dirty to help out around the house and yard, and giving them small chores.  Explaining how things they take for granted around the house cost money: water, electricity, garbage service, etc and learning the importance of non material things.

post #448 of 461
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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon View Post

Jason:

 

All I can say about that post is "atta boy" to every single word.

 

Good for you.

 

Your co-workers are only making fun of you to cover their own inadequacies.  They are probably wondering how they are going to ever pay the minimum payment on their credit card bills this month. 

 

I mentioned to one-someone younger than me-two Christmas's ago I was cash flowing the entire holiday for the first time ever.  He looked at me like I was a nutcase and said he puts it all on a card and pays it off.  Fast forward to a few days ago and I find out his one bedroom, one bathroom apartment rent is getting raised to $1,300.  I almost had a coronary hearing that.  I can assure you he makes less than me and hasn't been saavy with his money.

 

I went through a time a few years ago where, after rent and utilities and bills, I had about $50 leftover per paycheck for things like, oh, I don't know...gasoline and food.  I like to think that (and Suze Orman and Dave Ramsey) made me a whole lot smarter and more blessed for what I have.

 

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Speaking of Slurpees, 7-Eleven today, gave away free Slurpees, until 7 PM. I did not know until I stopped by one and saw a sign for it. After then, stopped by a couple more, trying the different flavors. biggrin.gif

 

I need to do that myself, when it comes to getting a Friendly's ice cream, limiting to once a week or every other week, as I love to eat the Peanut Butter Cup Sundae, but oh man, it's very pricey.

 

My boss actually told me that before I left work today.  As much as I want a Slurpee right now, I don't need it after a too big lunch with my CEO's.  Besides, I've gained a few pounds in the last few weeks and I don't like it.  frown.gif  I got on the Wii Fit the minute I got home tonight.  Prolly worked off one Tater Tot from Lunchbox Laboratory...

 

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Originally Posted by Adam Gregorich View Post

Good for you Jason. 

 

My wife and I are starting to crack down on the budget here too, identifying where money is going and cutting out things that aren't needed.  For several years we have been charging all our expenses to a rewards CC every month and then paying it off monthly to not carry a balance. 

 

We are also trying to be a bit more prepared for unexpected things: building up savings in case of financial hardship, having some basic emergency supplies on hand in case of a natural disaster since we live in earthquake/volcano country.  Its a real eyeopener how much things shutdown here with just a few inches of snow on the ground; God help us if there is a major earthquake.  (Note: not a prepper, don't think the world will end in 2012, just taking a common sense approach as recommend by CDC).  Verifying we have adequate insurance, getting a will drawn up, and things organized.  In short like Jason said, growing up.

 

Yay Adam!  It is a TOTAL eyeopener to see where the money goes every month/paycheck.  My mother raised me to be a smart shopper, but even shopping with coupons and sales adds up very quickly for essentials.  I've paid my share of stupid tax-as have we all-and I refuse to do it anymore. 

 

(A few inches of snow closed our office in Bellevue for two days and made the third a half staff day back in January.  I'm right there with ya, Adam.)

post #449 of 461
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Originally Posted by Lars Larsen View Post

I often wonder how much economic downturn there would be, if you took the media out of the equation.

You don't even need to take the media out of the equation, you'd just need to separate media from entertainment. With them mixed together the truth is a casualty.
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Originally Posted by DaveF
Won't the "rules" remain the same: buy index funds, use sensible asset allocation, think long term, and don't try to actively beat the market?
Those rules applied over the last ten years have netted a 16% return in the S&P. That's 16% total in 10 years, not per annum. You would have gotten better rates from a bank CD, or an ING Direct savings account.

Ask me how I know.
Couple that with reasonable rebalance and diverse allocation and the return is MUCH better..   If all you want to consider is equity; I'm more interested in what they will do more so than what they have done - and considering we are on the backside of a global near-meltdown of historic proportion - the fact equities are up at all is quite impressive.   Not every 10 years has had positive performance, but every 20 has...  Reversion to the mean is a powerful force...

Meanwhile there are intelligent ways to hedge your retirement nest-egg so that the risk is further mitigated...  but that something best left for your financial advisor to explain...

Or you could get a 2% CD and net 16% in 8 years...   2 sooner than the worst 10 year period stocks have done in your lifetime...   :)
 

Only thing I worry about with a CD is will that 2% keep up with inflation?  Most 5 year CDs are returing 1.75% if you are lucky.

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