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post #31 of 51
12/6/08 at 1:28am

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I am in total agreement that Vicky and Hebba are really awful people. The only one still around that I would be glad to see win the whole thing is Michelle. I was sad to see her mom go home.
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post #32 of 51
12/6/08 at 1:27pm

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It doesn't hurt her case that Michelle is pretty easy on the eyes...and seems to be a generally nice person to boot. Reserved...but nice.
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post #33 of 51
12/10/08 at 4:37pm
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I really wanted Vicki to fall below the yellow line, but after hearing Heba's plea to be the third finalist, I was so glad that SHE fell below. What a self absorbed jerk. " My husband is willing to step aside to give me this" So what? You don't give a rats ass about your husband and all the hard work he has put into this? Wow! Just wow! It's one thing for him to step aside on his own choice, but her plea just pissed me off, showing her true colors.

I hope Michelle wins this whole thing. She is genuine, she is beautiful inside and out and she seems like she really cares about the people around her.
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post #34 of 51
12/10/08 at 4:56pm

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We have never voted in a single TV audience-participation vote at our household...
But as soon as we heard Heba & Ed's "pleas" my wife grabbed her cellphone and voted for Ed!

It sure would be a pisser if the rest of the country did the same thing and left Heba hanging out to dry.

The word "I" (followed by a bunch of superlatives) flows very easily out of Heba's mouth.

Also...watching the replay of the past season winners (before/after) it really is clear that this has to be the worst season ever for weight-loss among the contestants. No one has even approached 100 pounds of weight loss--right through the penultimate show! All of those past winners were really dramatic. Haven't seen that yet this year. But maybe I should wait until the live finale. I think Michele will be absolutely beautiful with a potential Ali-like (last season's winner) result.

Also, I thought it was pretty interesting that Bob revealed (during one of his conversations with Vicky) that the season 1 winner has put ALL of his weight back on. You wouldn't think that the producers would want to admit that nationally...but it IS a good lesson that prolonged weight-loss is all about lifestyle change and not just about attending boot camp.

I also got the feeling that Vicky decided to "play" Bob by having him think that she now "gets it." And Bob fell for it hook, line & sinker.
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post #35 of 51
12/10/08 at 8:51pm

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This is a great season - there is/are definately villian/s this year. I hate, despise, have a general disliking for Heba and Vicki. They almost ruin the show for me. Words could'nt be enough if Michelle won and Ed was voted in for the final three.
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post #36 of 51
12/10/08 at 9:16pm

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Based on the comments here, I just submitted my vote for Ed to stay - this is the first season that I have really hated any contestants, but Vicky is evil!!! Past seasons I was just rooting for everyone to succeed, most contestants were so sincere in their desire to change their lives, a lot less cut-throat tactics!
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post #37 of 51
12/16/08 at 9:17pm

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Thank God!!!!

First off, America slapped Heba down off her high horse. Voting against her by a landside even with her competition pleading to vote for her. That must feel really freaking bad. LOL

Then, the wicked witch of the south leaves with nothing!!!!

Congrats to Michelle. She looked amazing and really deserved to win.

The new season in January looks like it will have a lot more drama. The largest person ever to participate. I really hope he doesn't kill himself.

I hope that I can go back to pulling for everyone. This season I had people I actually hated and it sort of ruined the show a little. I want to go back to hoping the best to all participants.
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post #38 of 51
12/17/08 at 1:49am

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I was pleased with the outcome. Good thing America voted off Heba too. Otherwise Heba had a higher percentage of loss than Michelle, so she would have won the big prize if she were a finalist.
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post #39 of 51
12/17/08 at 4:34am
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This season was a bit odd for us as well. First season we actually despised a few contestants. I mean, I really hated Vicki and Heba to the point of wishing them to gain weight. america chose correctly when they put Ed in the competition. Definitely a slap in the face to Heba.

So glad Michelle won.


I was shocked with how Shellay looked. She was stick thin. Jerry actually looked older after losing so much weight. Colleen looked absolutely adorable! Amy looked fantastic and Phil just looked like a completely differnt person.
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post #40 of 51
12/17/08 at 10:30am

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I hadn't realized that Heba would have beaten Michelle. Talk about justice then!

For "America" to have given Ed 84% of the vote is an absolutely amazing occurrence. That's more than 5 votes for Ed to everyone one for Heba. Politicians would give anything to be able to figure out how to achieve that kind of plurality! We laughed very hard when Allison Sweeney read off that result.

I agree with all points that have been made about Shellay, Phil, Amy C & Amy P. I actually thought Jerry looked incredibly good--what an amazing difference. I though Michelle definitely had an Ali-like moment (last year's winner!). So happy she won!

That show really does need to pick up its production pace, though. While I'm okay with them having two-hour episodes each week (I do workouts myself when watching!), it is one poorly produced show...and I'm afraid to add that I think they could do with a better host. I was hoping Sweeney would be an upgrade from Caroline Rhea...but it's kind of eerie how similarly they handled the duties.
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post #41 of 51
12/17/08 at 9:10pm

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I agree with everything said... I am so happy that Michelle won!!!

The new season looks great! I'm very happy that it's starting in only a couple weeks, I could watch this show year round! I'm glad they are not doing the old family thing with two weeks a family or couple. Straight regular seasons suit me best.
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post #42 of 51
12/17/08 at 9:27pm

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Originally Posted by RyanAn
I agree with everything said... I am so happy that Michelle won!!!

The new season looks great! I'm very happy that it's starting in only a couple weeks, I could watch this show year round!

And, Ryan, let me agree with you! I thought we were going to be in a reality show doldrum at my house with Survivor, The Amazing Race and The Biggest Loser all ending within a couple weeks of each other. It'll be great to get another season of The Biggest Loser started right up again...especially in January since (as I stated earlier) I like to do my own workouts while watching the show!
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post #43 of 51
12/18/08 at 5:58pm
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My friend went to her her gym this morning and saw Heba and Ed. We had a good laugh when I asked her if she threatened to beat Heba down! LOL!
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post #44 of 51
12/18/08 at 7:43pm

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This is the one "reality" show I watch, and even so it's a background show for me (read the paper or surf the web while watching). I only really enjoy it towards the end, when the pack is thinned and real progress is being made.

And this season was the least interesting of the few I've watched. None of the people were highly interesting, and Vicky was wholly repulsive. I nearly quit watching when Vicky fell below the line and the swing voter chose to be "loyal" and didn't vote her off. Bah!

But I always enjoy the finale, seeing how much everyone has lost.

I have three wishes for the show. It would be fun to have "where are they now" episodes. Do the contestants keep their weight off? How do winners fare? Especially after Bob's chat with Vicky, telling her the first season winner gained all the weight back.

And with that, I wish they'd use good stats. It's bad math to weigh people to a single pound but calculate percent weight loss to 0.01%. The losses are so close that weighing to a tenth pound could change the results in some cases.

Most importantly, the show should use body fat percentage instead of weight loss. Pounds off are good, but lean mass matters and body fat % is a better metric.
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post #45 of 51
12/19/08 at 2:54am

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Originally Posted by DaveF
Most importantly, the show should use body fat percentage instead of weight loss. Pounds off are good, but lean mass matters and body fat % is a better metric.
True, also I have always heard muscle is heavier than fat. So as you convert fat to muscle, that negates some of the weight loss, yet is still healthier for you.
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post #46 of 51
12/19/08 at 7:13am

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Originally Posted by Qui-Gon John
True, also I have always heard muscle is heavier than fat. So as you convert fat to muscle, that negates some of the weight loss, yet is still healthier for you.
Yep, muscle is denser than fat, so you can slim down but not see the scale show as many pounds off as you might expect.

My wife sees this. She's trying to lose some weight and the gym's evaluation will report saying she lost four pounds of fat and gained three pounds of muscle. This is real improvement, but the scale only shows one pound lost, which feels frustrating, as we're culturally taught to think in terms of simple weight loss.

For these people with hundreds of pounds of fat, simple pounds off is a big deal. But body fat % would be telling at the end, especially with the men, who are clearly gaining significant muscle mass.
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post #47 of 51
12/19/08 at 7:40am

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I also think that they should not have the women and men compete against each other. Everyone knows that the different sexes are not the same physiologically. Simple percentage of weight loss is not the same.

The reason women have started to take over the game is that they now know in order to win, they have to vote off all the men. This made the game swing from men winning to women winning.

I really wish they would remove the "voting" from the competition. It should be about results, not personalities. They should just make it so the scale (or some other hard data) decides who gets to stay.
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post #48 of 51
12/19/08 at 9:20am

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Originally Posted by Scott-S
I really wish they would remove the "voting" from the competition. It should be about results, not personalities. They should just make it so the scale (or some other hard data) decides who gets to stay.


I have said this from the first episode. How can they call it the biggest loser when it is not. It is the biggest loser out of those that play the "Survivor" game the best. Case in point this season, Heba was actually the biggest loser.
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post #49 of 51
12/19/08 at 9:53am

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But would it be as compelling a TV show with the personality element removed?

I totally understand your point...but two hours of workouts would clearly not be as interesting as what there is now. there'd be little need for challenges although I guess they could remain for prize value.

And while Heba may have been the biggest loser among the final four since their last weigh-in, I wonder who lost the biggest percentage of weight since the first weigh-in? She may not actually be the biggest loser, right? The weekly weigh-ins and eliminations could mean the result of a true "biggest loser" may still get skewed.
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post #50 of 51
12/19/08 at 11:07am

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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon
But would it be as compelling a TV show with the personality element removed?
I asked my wife why she watches Survivor but not the ballroom dance show. She said it's because the dance show doesn't have the personalities, the social conflict, the competitions--it has none of the things that make an interesting "reality" show for her.

So it is with Loser: if it was simply weight loss, it would be a dieting infomercial for Subway, not a "reality show" to get good ratings and viewership.

And though I'm not a "reality" fan, what bugs me about Loser is that people play the game, yet the don't play the game. That Vicky wasn't voted off was infuriating to me -- it was such a bad gameplay move. That people still play as "blue" and "black" when it's all about individual weight loss, rather than voting strategically, makes the show more tedious.

Similarly, the show's producers are recruiting for fat people, and not necessarily interesting people, whereas survivor clearly auditions for interesting personalities and conflicts.

Last season was one of my favorites because by the end, the men were such an interesting group. The Vegas trip and tatoos was an unexpected and fun sement.
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post #51 of 51
12/19/08 at 12:02pm

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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon
And while Heba may have been the biggest loser among the final four since their last weigh-in, I wonder who lost the biggest percentage of weight since the first weigh-in? She may not actually be the biggest loser, right? The weekly weigh-ins and eliminations could mean the result of a true "biggest loser" may still get skewed.

The results on the finale was the percentage lost from first weigh-in to the live weigh-in, so Heba did indeed lose the most overall.

I don't like the idea of the eliminations either. The purpose of the show is to change people's lives (well, after being an infomercial for the product of the week that is). But look through the past season and the trend is usually that the earlier they are voted off the less weight they lose overall. Some do buck that trend. I think eliminated or not they should still get to stay there and get the benefits of the trainers.

I don't know how else they could do the show. I would be perfectly fine watching it with the eliminations, but I understand that most people have a need for the drama and conflict. Maybe there could be some reward/punishment system that would help the show retain it's drama. But to me the fact that people like Vicki, Brady, Heba and Ed, who are hideous people both inside and out, can stay on the show, yet people like Phil have to leave due to the "survivor-ness" of the show is a big turn off to me.
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