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Originally Posted by Joseph DeMartino View Post

With all due respect to this fascinating ratings debate, has no one noticed that I posted the much-requested pic of Penny answering her door?  Am I the last straight male still reading this thread? 

You fail to recognize something even more powerfully attractive than a hot chick...
http://xkcd.com/386/

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Not true.  For Season One, it was ranked the #59 show among all shows on the broadcast networks, Season Two was ranked #44.  If it was in the Top 20 "every week", it's season ranking would be #20 or higher.

The show drew its largest audience ever (13.1 million) on Feb 9, 2009, when it aired at 9:30pm (airing later than usual due to a presidential address, as I recall).  This landed it at #15 for the week and likely contributed to CBS changing its timeslot for the upcoming season.
 

Ignoring the data for the late spring and summer airings (in which BBT is also in the top 20 every week), BBT was ranked 20th in week 33, 21st in week 32, 12th for the week of April 19th, and so on.  Obviously we are using two different methods for determining viewship, it seems, since there is a pretty big gap between numbers on various sites (futon critic, tv by the numbers, et cetera--I don't even bother with anything wikipedia has to say).

In my opinion, the show (though I slightly prefer How I Met Your Mother, personally) qualifies as a hit comedy.
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Obviously we are using two different methods for determining viewship, it seems

Yeah, you're only considering the 18-49 age demographic, while I'm looking at the total viewing audience.  Using that limited logic, "Lost" is still a Top 10 ranked show, rather than ranking in the lower 20's as it continues to hemorrhage viewers (the most recent season ranked #28 based on total viewers).

And I never said TBBT wasn't a hit show (CBS would have already canceled it if it wasn't), but it's not yet a huge ratings hit when you consider the overall viewership rather than a narrow demo.  Those overall viewership totals are why CBS is moving the show to 9:30. The show has achieved its largest audience numbers to date when it aired in that time slot.
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(though I slightly prefer How I Met Your Mother, personally)
I'll try not to hold that against you. 
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Does anyone even remotely attempt to target demos outside of the 18-49 bracket (excluding, of course, demos within that demo, such as wealthy graduates with 100k+ incomes).  Virtually everything I've read, such as this article, hints that the industry is attempting to move beyond such narrow "limited logic" yet finds it difficult to do so in any real sense.  Any success appears to be incidental, dare I say accidental.

It seems to be a two-faced beast, published ratings, in that on one hand networks talk up successes, citing whatever demographic or total viewership is required, while seeking to diminish dissapointing performances by claiming key demos "aren't what they used to be."  Truth be told, given the speed at which the entire television industry is changing (PVR, DVD releases, et cetera), I don't think any set of numbers can be seen as "the facts."  Executives and creative minds alike are stuggling to find that elusive magic formula that will preserve (or even, in hushed whispers and silent prayers, increase) market share.

If anything, the recent--and I do mean recent, as in this past renewal cycle--trend has seen, for lack of a better term, "risks" on behalf of many networks.  Renewing shows such as Dollhouse and Chuck, tightening budgets or placing the bulk of the monetary load on the production companies, clawing back what little residuals remain, and so on.  I'm not saying risks were never taken before (The X-Files, for example), but there has been a definite increase in my opinion.

Indeed, what is and what was a "hit" perhaps no longer holds any meaning.  Is the family who eschews Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip (tried to pick the most cerebral show I could think of from recent memory) but never misses an episode of Dancing with the Stars or Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader? truly purchasing anything from the advertisements in any meaningful quantity?

Who really knows?  It certainly is interesting, though.  Of course, it means the ground is littered with the corpses of some truly good shows along the way...
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