Home Theater Forum › Home Theater Forum › Blu-ray, DVD, Streaming Video and Digital Downloads › Blu-ray › Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far - Page 16

post #451 of 1668
2/16/09 at 12:24pm

Re: Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack Gibbs
Excellent news all around.

Nicholas, I don't see how anyone could claim these are overpriced. For the Movie Box Sets you're looking at what, $15 max per title in actual costs? Closer to $11 with a good deal. And the TOS set is half what the HD-DVD pricing was.

I said that when the original releases of the films on DVD came out, meaning those 1998/1999 DVDs - those were overpriced, while the later 2-disc versions were a great price.
Reply

Gear mentioned in this thread:

Star Trek: Original Motion Picture Collection (The Motion Picture / The Wrath of Kahn / The Search for Spock / The Voyage Home / The Final Frontier / The ... Captains Summit Bonus Disc) [Blu-ray]
$54.91 at
See it »
Star Trek: The Next Generation Motion Picture Collection [Blu-ray]
$34.99 at
See it »
Star Trek (Three-Disc +Digital Copy) [Blu-ray]
$25.99 at
See it »
post #452 of 1668
2/16/09 at 12:27pm

Re: Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicholas Martin
I said that when the original releases of the films on DVD came out, meaning those 1998/1999 DVDs - those were overpriced, while the later 2-disc versions were a great price.


You know what, I have no idea what you're asking. LOL.

I thought you were asking what we thought of the pricing for these new Blurays. I don't even remember what I payed for the DVD's.
Reply
post #453 of 1668
2/16/09 at 12:34pm

Re: Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far

I was asking if, based on the pricing history of the DVDs, where the originals and the TV series were overpriced but the 2-disc sets were not, does anyone think these Blu-ray versions are overpriced or reasonable?

So you got it right.
Reply
post #454 of 1668
2/16/09 at 12:42pm

Re: Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far

I wish they put all the special features on disc 6 or 7. Why have them on every disc. They never get as much play as the episodes. I would rather as many episodes on one disc as possible.
Reply
post #455 of 1668
2/16/09 at 1:05pm
Thread Starter 

Re: Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicholas Martin
First Contact had a Jerry Goldsmith tribute and that wasn't too long after his death that the disc was made (I think)

as for Horner, he's done a LOT of these DVD featurettes, so it's safe to say they talked to him personally about the film. He was part of a 'making of' for the film "Testament" (another Paramount release) and his segment in that was about a minute long, so the chances of him not being a part of this specific Trek feature is about zero. It'll be the first time he's talked about the film in about 20 years!

I hope he mentions his little cameo in it as an Enterprise engineering crewman.

The SE DVD of First Contact was released on March 15th, 2005. Goldsmith passed away on July 21st, 2004. (I had to look that up.)

I was hoping we'd get a tribute to Leonard Rosenman as well. Maybe the Library Computer feature will mention him. And I thought Horner was very candid in his Aliens interview.

And speaking of the FC tribute, most of the features on the TNG movie DVDs are letterboxed (a mix of 16x9 interviews and 4x3 behind the scenes footage, or vice-versa). When these films come out on BD later on, I wonder if these features will be full 16x9.
Reply
post #456 of 1668
2/16/09 at 1:33pm

Re: Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far

Wow.

CBS & Paramount Announce First Star Trek Blu-ray sets - TOS S1 & All TOS movies coming April/May | TrekMovie.com
Reply
post #457 of 1668
2/16/09 at 1:44pm

Re: Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far

Quote:
Originally Posted by ATimson
And the movies are a very good price, if you don't mind the missing content from the DVDs.

There are no real complaints from me, and I'm appreciative that they included almost all of the extras (text commentaries?) as I don't own all of the 2-discs. I have the TMP DE, so that covers what's missing from that DVD, for the time being.

Before we see "Generations" release on BD, maybe someone could clear this up for me... wasn't the 2-disc missing one of the trailers due to some sort of music rights issue?

And anyone have any idea when we might see "Enterprise"?
Reply
post #458 of 1668
2/16/09 at 1:45pm

Re: Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far

Now they have posted the specs I can see why the pricing is so good. Apart from ST2 which quite rightly gets the masterpiece treatment the rest just get 1080P + 7.1 which is pretty generic nowadays. I doubt they have properly mastered the sound into 7.1 it will just be surrounds spread in all the rear channels as it would be costly remixing 6 movies for 7.1. The best news for me is that Nick Meyer has obviously played a big part in the ST2 transfer but apart from that all the other extras look pretty poor & cheapskate as expected and most I have already seen anyway. Most of those so called celebrity commentries will be a waste of disc space for sure! Very little if anything else is new so all we are really getting is hopefully decent transfers & passable sound. Paramount really missed a golden opportunity here to get Shatner/Nimoy the other surviving TOS actors & Harve Bennett (producer of 2-5) more involved.
Reply
post #459 of 1668
2/16/09 at 1:51pm

Re: Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul_Warren
Most of those so called celebrity commentries will be a waste of disc space for sure!

With names like Ron Moore, Ira Behr, the Reeves-Stevens', the Okuda's, Manny Coto...I don't know how you discount the tracks. Sure, they're "fans" but they've all worked on the franchise in some way, shape or form. Most have been involved in some of the best Trek has to offer. The only original commentary missing is the one with Robert Wise from the DE of TMP, which, I assume, will be forthcoming on the DE edition.
Reply
post #460 of 1668
2/16/09 at 2:04pm

Re: Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far

ANY comments from Ira Steven Behr and Ron Moore about anything related to Trek are more than welcome
Reply
post #461 of 1668
2/16/09 at 2:12pm

Re: Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason_V
With names like Ron Moore, Ira Behr, the Reeves-Stevens', the Okuda's, Manny Coto...I don't know how you discount the tracks. Sure, they're "fans" but they've all worked on the franchise in some way, shape or form. Most have been involved in some of the best Trek has to offer. The only original commentary missing is the one with Robert Wise from the DE of TMP, which, I assume, will be forthcoming on the DE edition.
Yeah I'm sure most fans will want to waste 12 hours of their lives listening to them gushing about movies they were never involved in. We should have had the remaining 5 TOS actors whilst they are still around.
Reply
post #462 of 1668
2/16/09 at 2:15pm

Re: Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisCook
Before we see "Generations" release on BD, maybe someone could clear this up for me... wasn't the 2-disc missing one of the trailers due to some sort of music rights issue?
According to the case (too lazy to actually pop it in ), it's missing both trailers. I know that one of them (the teaser, I think) reused music from earlier movies, so I don't think that it would be a problem. I don't remember the other, though.
Reply
post #463 of 1668
2/16/09 at 2:17pm

Re: Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason_V
The only original commentary missing is the one with Robert Wise from the DE of TMP, which, I assume, will be forthcoming on the DE edition.
And they'll have to edit the ones for TWOK and TUC. If we're lucky, there's enough blank space that it won't be too obvious. If we're unlucky, they'll end up like the James Cameron one from Terminator 2.
Reply
post #464 of 1668
2/16/09 at 2:32pm

Re: Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul_Warren
Yeah I'm sure most fans will want to waste 12 hours of their lives listening to them gushing about movies they were never involved in. We should have had the remaining 5 TOS actors whilst they are still around.


If someone had to complain about something it might as well be this, though if it wasn't it would be something else.

Perhaps most fans would like that. Perhaps not. Who knows.

Besides, those remaining actors have probably said every conceivable thing they could about Trek for most of their careers in various venues so a commentary is probably not something they would've cared to do or they would have by now.
Reply
post #465 of 1668
2/16/09 at 2:48pm

Re: Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far

When it comes to the films I'll be waiting to see what kind of options are available for all 11 at the end of the year.

In any case, great news all around!
Reply
post #466 of 1668
2/16/09 at 2:53pm

Re: Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far

Quote:
Originally Posted by ATimson
According to the case (too lazy to actually pop it in ), it's missing both trailers. I know that one of them (the teaser, I think) reused music from earlier movies, so I don't think that it would be a problem. I don't remember the other, though.

Here are the trailers for reference:



Reply
post #467 of 1668
2/16/09 at 3:13pm

Re: Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul_Warren
Yeah I'm sure most fans will want to waste 12 hours of their lives listening to them gushing about movies they were never involved in. We should have had the remaining 5 TOS actors whilst they are still around.

Simple solution: don't listen to them.

I'll enjoy getting a new perspective on the flicks from people who-believe it or not-know more about the franchise than any of us.
Reply
post #468 of 1668
2/16/09 at 3:25pm

Re: Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisCook
Here are the trailers for reference:
Thanks for the links.

The teaser uses music from TMP and TNG's main titles.

The actual trailer... it's mostly Trek reuses (TNG's main titles and TUC), but I don't recognize parts (the first 30 seconds or so, and from 0:50-1:00--though it wouldn't surprise me if the latter is also TUC).

If it's clearance issues, it's either the TNG main titles (which would be odd) or those bits I don't recognize. Everything else is also used in the First Contact trailers.
Reply
post #469 of 1668
2/16/09 at 6:46pm

Re: Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far

The only non-Trek music in that trailer is the music used in the beginning. It's "Neptune" from The Planets, by Gustav Holst.
Reply
post #470 of 1668
2/16/09 at 7:00pm

Re: Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far

http://www.movie-list.net/classics12...enerations.mov

Direct download of a Quicktime file for one of the trailers.
Reply
post #471 of 1668
2/17/09 at 5:35am

Re: Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far

Sorry, posted in wrong thread.
Reply
post #472 of 1668
2/17/09 at 10:06am

Re: Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far

just in case of what?
Reply
post #473 of 1668
2/17/09 at 10:07am
Thread Starter 

Re: Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far

Star Trek V info from the BBFC. It looks like everything from disc 2 is accounted for.

00:01:40:01 (PRODUCTION - HARVE BENNET'S PITCH TO SALES TEAM)
00:28:53:11 (PRODUCTION - THE JOURNEY - A BEHIND-THE-SCENES DOCUMENTARY)
00:09:48:02 MAKE-UP TESTS
00:01:39:04 (PRODUCTION - PRE-VISUALISATION MODELS)
00:05:35:09 ROCKMAN IN THE RAW (SFX FEATURETTE)
00:13:37:01 (PRODUCTION - STAR TREK V PRESS CONFERENCE)
00:19:07:01 HERMAN ZIMMERMAN: A TRIBUTE ('THE STAR TREK UNIVERSE' FEATURETTE)
00:14:35:14 (THE STAR TREK UNIVERSE - ORIGINAL INTERVIEW: WILLIAM SHATNER) ('THE STAR TREK UNIVERSE' FEATURETTE)
00:13:03:17 (THE STAR TREK UNIVERSE - COSMIC THOUGHTS) ('THE STAR TREK UNIVERSE' FEATURETTE)
00:13:03:13 (THE STAR TREK UNIVERSE - THAT KLINGON COUPLE) ('THE STAR TREK UNIVERSE' FEATURETTE)
00:09:22:14 A GREEN FUTURE? ('THE STAR TREK UNIVERSE' FEATURETTE)
00:09:28:21 STAR TREK HONORS NASA ('THE STAR TREK UNIVERSE' FEATURETTE)
00:02:51:14 (THE STAR TREK UNIVERSE - STARFLEET ACADEMY SCISEC BRIEF 005: NIMBUS III) ('THE STAR TREK UNIVERSE' FEATURETTE)
00:00:16:16 (DELETED SCENES - MOUNT RUSHMORE)
00:02:01:17 (DELETED SCENES - INSULTS)
00:00:50:00 (DELETED SCENES - BEHOLD PARADISE)
00:01:00:21 (DELETED SCENES - SPOCK'S PAIN)
00:02:26:12 STAR TREK V - THE FINAL FRONTIER (TRAILER)
00:01:22:08 STAR TREK V - THE FINAL FRONTIER (TRAILER)
00:00:29:24 (TV SPOTS - VACATION IS OVER)
00:00:29:22 (TV SPOTS - RENEGADE)
00:00:29:21 (TV SPOTS - CHALLENGE OF REBELLION)
00:00:29:21 (TV SPOTS - BROTHERS)
00:00:29:22 (TV SPOTS - BEYOND)
00:00:14:21 (TV SPOTS - ADVENTURE)
00:00:14:23 (TV SPOTS - WARP SPEED NOW)
00:01:06:10 (EASTER EGG: THE GAG REEL)
Reply
post #474 of 1668
2/17/09 at 1:36pm

Re: Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far

No more deleted scenes though which I think is a bit stupid as you could see clips from them in the docs.
Reply
post #475 of 1668
2/17/09 at 4:33pm
Thread Starter 

Re: Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far

From the Bits:

"The Star Trek VI Blu-ray and DVD from the Star Trek: Original Motion Picture Collection and Star Trek: Motion Picture Trilogy sets (due 5/12) will be presented at the original theatrical 2.35:1 aspect ratio, as newly approved by director Nicholas Meyer. The previous DVDs versions featured a 2.0:1 aspect ratio.

In addition, all of the Okuda text commentaries from the previous 2-disc DVDs of the feature films have been dropped from the Blu-rays. The reason is that the Okudas used the same material in the new Library Computer interactive options on the Blu-rays, so the text commentaries were redundant."

The Library Computer stuff sounds pretty cool. But I have to say, I've NEVER seen Star Trek VI in its original aspect ratio! I wonder what convinced Meyer to do that this time around. (Which also begs the question, if we get the extended version later on, what will that aspect ratio be?)
Reply
post #476 of 1668
2/17/09 at 5:21pm

Re: Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott D S
From the Bits:

The Library Computer stuff sounds pretty cool. But I have to say, I've NEVER seen Star Trek VI in its original aspect ratio! I wonder what convinced Meyer to do that this time around. (Which also begs the question, if we get the extended version later on, what will that aspect ratio be?)

It's probably just because so many people asked for it when the DVDs were released. Fans didn't really complain until the special edition.
Reply
post #477 of 1668
2/17/09 at 6:04pm

Re: Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far

I think I'm gonna really dig this release.

While I'm disappointed that TMP doesn't also have the Director's edition, I'm still looking forward to having the theatrical cut in a definitive format.

And having Star Trek VI not only in its original theatrical cut, which has never been available on home video, but also OAR will be a real treat.
Reply
post #478 of 1668
2/17/09 at 6:20pm

Re: Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Hawley

And having Star Trek VI not only in its original theatrical cut, which has never been available on home video, but also OAR will be a real treat.
Excuse my ignorance. Which version was available on vhs?
Reply
post #479 of 1668
2/17/09 at 7:17pm

Re: Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far

I never had the VHS version, but it's presumably the same as on the laserdisc which had the added Scooby Doo ending. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
(Colonel West reveal)
Reply
post #480 of 1668
2/17/09 at 7:32pm

Re: Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nelson Au
I never had the VHS version, but it's presumably the same as on the laserdisc which had the added Scooby Doo ending. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
(Colonel West reveal)

It was the same. Just like the laserdisc, it was the "Special Home Video Version". And, it was all that was available.
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Blu-ray

Gear mentioned in this thread:

Star Trek: Original Motion Picture Collection (The Motion Picture / The Wrath of Kahn / The Search for Spock / The Voyage Home / The Final Frontier / The ... Captains Summit Bonus Disc) [Blu-ray]
$54.91 at
See it »
Star Trek: The Next Generation Motion Picture Collection [Blu-ray]
$34.99 at
See it »
Star Trek (Three-Disc +Digital Copy) [Blu-ray]
$25.99 at
See it »
Home Theater Forum › Home Theater Forum › Blu-ray, DVD, Streaming Video and Digital Downloads › Blu-ray › Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far