Star Trek films on Blu-Ray... what we know so far - Page 56

I agree that there isn't much of a sense of what this Kirk did at the Academy other than goof off and do things like what he did to the simulator.  That's the reason why I believe he would have been in much more serious trouble than the original Kirk was.  The original timeline Kirk was a serious student and was known as a difficult instructor while at the Academy when he moved up to TA.  The new Kirk doesn't show any aptitude like this, but instead comes up with the same solution the original Kirk did for the simulator problem.  You're right that it's a minor violation for the original Kirk.  But the one in the revised timeline doesn't have the exemplary history of the original, so for him this wouldn't be such a minor problem.   But I'm really beating this dead horse into the ground at this point. 

I think we'll all agree that the next movie will be interesting - we just need to see what they're thinking of doing with it.

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Originally Posted by Kevin EK 

I agree that there isn't much of a sense of what this Kirk did at the Academy other than goof off and do things like what he did to the simulator. 

I don't get the sense of goof off that you did.  He may have been a bit unconventional but not always flippant or lazy.  I expect the intention of the filmmakers was for us to believe he went in whole hog with the serious intention of finishing in 3 years by working hard but had to bypass conventional thinking at times to get the job done and was not above using personal charm to get what he wanted.  Unfortunately without another scene or two early to establish the whole "rebel without a cause" is just an act, Kirk could be thought of as you believe.  We are shown only two scenes at the academy, the sleeping around as TOS always had him doing, and the Kobayashi Maru test that was mentioned in Star Trek II.  Neither was really any different than TOS Kirk.  I choose to believe his genes, which are the same in both universes, gave him the natural ability and drive but his upbringing led to his unfocused effort until Captain Pike straightened him out and took a more hands-on approach.  Again these are surmises that are missing from the movie that really needed to be shown.

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Originally Posted by Chuck Anstey 

I don't quite understand why in prime universe he gets an accommodation for original thinking and in the other he is about to be tossed out of the academy for what is really a minor violation.

I always took that line in Star Trek II about original thinking as being a euphemism for "detention" :)

"I changed the conditions of the test; got a commendation for
original thinking!"
 

The dialogue for Wrath of Khan certainly had great written dialogue. And Shatner and Kelley and Nimoy really delivered it well.

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Originally Posted by Josh Steinberg 

I always took that line in Star Trek II about original thinking as being a euphemism for "detention" :)

I have always taken it a face value.  Interesting take on it.

Dialogue was cut from the 2009 film about the medal being presented to Kirk as a commendation for original thinking.  I seem to recall Tyler Perry even having a line about Kirk's "unique solution" to the Kobayashi Maru, but that was also cut.

Any further Star Trek blu ray news? 

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Originally Posted by Tim Haxton 

Any further Star Trek blu ray news? 

No, except that the vibe seems to suggest that the sequel to the 2009 film will be delayed from its June 2012 release, probably until holiday 2012 or summer 2013. That means any corresponding DVD or blu-ray tie-in releases will be delayed as well, most likely.

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Got it. Yes, the film will certainly be delayed until late 2012 or 2013 I'm guessing.

I wonder what this means for the Cloverfield sequel or prequel, will that come before the Trek sequel or after it, much delaying go on but hopefully the computer writing the scripts will do a good job of them.

I don't believe Abrams will be directing the Cloverfield sequel/prequel/sidequel.  Given that, it shouldn't hold up the timeline of what he does in the Star Trek world...

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Originally Posted by Kevin EK 

I don't believe Abrams will be directing the Cloverfield sequel/prequel/sidequel.  Given that, it shouldn't hold up the timeline of what he does in the Star Trek world...

I was thinking he might be involved in writing the script and produce the film.

Hmmm IMDB now lists Cloverfield sequel as 2014, thats a long wait, last year it was listed as coming out 2011/2012, he is a busy man obviously and some of his projects are getting delayed.

Abrams tends to run with a lot of projects simultaneously.  There's also the 4th season of Fringe and the 1st seasons of Person of Interest and Alcatraz.   The one he's either directing or actively writing usually overwhelms the others.  Another good question will be the impact of Fringe on the writers, since they're involved with both projects.  Of course, if they were to hire David Gerrold and DC Fontana, there wouldn't be that issue...

I was thinking of them for the Star Trek movie.  That way the other guys could stay on Fringe.

I'd love to see a credit line for the new movie reading:

Produced by:  JJ Abrams and Damon Lindelof

Executive Producer:   Leonard Nimoy

Consulting Producers:  David Gerrold, DC Fontana, John DF Black

Writer/Director:  Nicholas Meyer

But the chances are that I'll win the lottery with the Lost numbers before I ever see that happen...

Some nice work here on trailers for TMP in high def:

http://trekmovie.com/2012/02/22/watch-original-star-trek-the-motion-picture-commercials-now-in-hd/

According to the article, Daren Dochterman, who worked on the visual effects for the director's cut of TMP, "just felt like" doing the trailers in HD. The article also says:

I still think next year (2013) with the release of the new film we'll see the director's cuts on blu, but that's just a guess. Anyway, nice work on these trailers.

The fact that they're doing the TNG work makes it clear that we'll see a TMP DE Blu-ray.  And it should correspond with the release of the next JJ Abrams movie.

Paramount has issued many excellent Blu-rays, including the great Ten Commandments set.   

Their Star Trek movie Blus include a lot of new content, in addition to the HD picture and sound.   The last time they visited the property was as part of the marketing for the 2009 JJ Abrams movie.  When the next Abrams movie is released in 2013, they will want to find some way to help market it.   Part of this will likely be a re-release of the box sets and the content from them.  One way of doing something relatively new will be to issue a Blu of the Robert Wise DE, an option that will not be that costly or time consuming to generate. 

Daren Dochterman has not been asked to do anything yet because such a release wouldn't happen for at least another year.  If by this time next year, the situation hasn't changed, then I'd agree that Paramount doesn't intend to do it.  But they're always looking for new ways to market the product and sell it again to Trek fans.

Finally a legitimate complete release of the best Star Trek score ever written!