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post #31 of 57
9/24/08 at 9:48am

Re: A few words about...™ Iron Man -- in Blu-ray

according to a post over at that blu-ray forum

Defective: UPC: 097361385747

New "Fixed": UPC: 097361385709

my bbv has the "defective" upc
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post #32 of 57
9/24/08 at 5:08pm

Re: A few words about...™ Iron Man -- in Blu-ray

Thanks, Tony.
But, uhm.. it was already posted in post #27!


Cees
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post #33 of 57
9/24/08 at 6:05pm

Re: A few words about...™ Iron Man -- in Blu-ray

i know, saw it.

i was just posting the upc in case anyone wanted to see the upc codes.

btw our fixed Iron Men will come in on monday so we can prep them for tuesday.


hold on, i swear those upc codes weren't there before in post 27, just a link to them.
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post #34 of 57
10/3/08 at 1:36pm

Re: A few words about...™ Iron Man -- in Blu-ray

Best Buy sold me the DEFECTIVE one and I just returned with the "good" one, I hope. I need to test it out to make sure. It is the correct upc this time.

They gave me the run around but finally coughed one up.
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post #35 of 57
10/4/08 at 6:32am

Re: A few words about...™ Iron Man -- in Blu-ray

The "correct" UPC version won't play for me now.

Anybody else having that problem??

Could be my older Samsung Player just can't play it. But it plays every other Blu Ray I own, including newer releases like Transformers.

Any suggestions?

Thanks
Paul
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post #36 of 57
10/4/08 at 11:40am

Re: A few words about...™ Iron Man -- in Blu-ray

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Originally Posted by Paul D Snyder
The "correct" UPC version won't play for me now.

Anybody else having that problem??

Could be my older Samsung Player just can't play it. But it plays every other Blu Ray I own, including newer releases like Transformers.

Any suggestions?

Thanks
Paul
Tell me about it!

If your "older Samsung Player" is the BD-P1000, I know what your talking about.

Since I can't link to AVS from HTF anymore, I'll quote what I posted over there in the Samsung Blu-ray BDP-1000 - First End User Reports - OWNERS ONLY! thread last Wednsday.

"Iron Man" works fine on my PS3 in the theater room, just not on the Samsung in my bedroom.

Quote:
Samsung Tech Support Chat Survey
General Info
Chat start time Oct 1, 2008 9:34:48 PM EST
Chat end time Oct 1, 2008 9:42:45 PM EST
Duration (actual chatting time) 00:07:56
Operator Davin S
Chat Transcript
info: Please wait for a Samsung Agent to respond.
info: All Samsung Agents are currently assisting others. Thanks for your patience. A Samsung Agent will be with you shortly.
info: You are now chatting with 'Davin S'
Davin S: Hello, I am a Samsung Technical Support representative. How may I assist you today?
Paul H: Hi Davin S, My Samsung BD-P1000 will not play the Iron Man Blu-ray movie. The BD-P1000 firmware was last updated to Version 1.6 on 6/20/2008 and is the latest version on your website.
Davin S: Yes, actually we are having compatibility problem right now with Iron man
Davin S: Engineers already aware of this and working to release the firmware soon to fix this
Paul H: Thanks for the heads-up.
Davin S: You're welcome, Is there anything else I can assist you with?
Paul H: That's all right now.
Paul H: Regards,
Davin S: Thank you for chatting with us. If you have a minute, please press the "close" button and fill out a brief survey and have a wonderful day.

Paul
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post #37 of 57
10/4/08 at 2:32pm

Re: A few words about...™ Iron Man -- in Blu-ray

Having had a go checking out the BD-Live material, I'm sorry I bothered. In fact, checking out the internet features on the five discs I own that include it,(Iron Man, Transformers, The Fall, Forgetting Sarah Marshall and Rambo), I've come to the conclusion that I'll never bother again. Pointless rubbish.
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post #38 of 57
10/4/08 at 7:38pm

Re: A few words about...™ Iron Man -- in Blu-ray

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Originally Posted by Paul Hillenbrand
Tell me about it!

If your "older Samsung Player" is the BD-P1000, I know what your talking about.

Since I can't link to AVS from HTF anymore, I'll quote what I posted over there in the Samsung Blu-ray BDP-1000 - First End User Reports - OWNERS ONLY! thread last Wednsday.

"Iron Man" works fine on my PS3 in the theater room, just not on the Samsung in my bedroom.


Paul

I have a BD-P1000, what a POS machine, I cannot play a handful of discs. It's pretty much nothing but a paper weight now. I highly doubt I'll ever buy another Samsung player again because of this.

I had no problems with this on my PS3, heck out of the 100's of Blu-rays I've spun with it I've not had a single issue yet, fantastic player.

I did return my set to Amazon due to the fact the #1 disc was loose in the case and was scratched. Best news is I picked up the helmet 2-disc set at Target for only $2 more then what Amazon charged me for the regular 2-disc.
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post #39 of 57
10/5/08 at 6:25am

Re: A few words about...™ Iron Man -- in Blu-ray

Thank you Paul H and Ron for your responses. I do have the BD-P1000, I guess that explains it. I guess I need to get a new player.

I also read some reviews on Amazon where people couldn't get any Samsung or Sony player to play it...Several with PS3's that couldn't as well.

Strange.

Paul
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post #40 of 57
10/5/08 at 7:28am

Re: A few words about...™ Iron Man -- in Blu-ray

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Originally Posted by Paul D Snyder
I also read some reviews on Amazon where people couldn't get any Samsung or Sony player to play it...Several with PS3's that couldn't as well.

Strange.

Paul
The PS3 issue was NOT a PS3 issue. What happened is that the first time you go to play disc 1 on a PS3 (or any other player with BD Live capability) and if your BD Live Internet setting is set to "allow," the player logs into Paramount's servers to download the BD Live content. Their servers became so overloaded that lots of PS3s could not log in and snag the content. As a result, many players "froze" for several minutes on the screen with the Iron Man chest symbol before eventually timing out and defaulting back to the main menu. Paramount has since fixed the problem by adding more server capacity and increasing bandwidth. Depending on your broadband setup, now that initial load only takes a minute or two.
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post #41 of 57
10/5/08 at 5:35pm

Re: A few words about...™ Iron Man -- in Blu-ray

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Originally Posted by pitchman
The PS3 issue was NOT a PS3 issue. What happened is that the first time you go to play disc 1 on a PS3 (or any other player with BD Live capability) and if your BD Live Internet setting is set to "allow," the player logs into Paramount's servers to download the BD Live content. Their servers became so overloaded that lots of PS3s could not log in and snag the content. As a result, many players "froze" for several minutes on the screen with the Iron Man chest symbol before eventually timing out and defaulting back to the main menu. Paramount has since fixed the problem by adding more server capacity and increasing bandwidth. Depending on your broadband setup, now that initial load only takes a minute or two.
Exactly, that is why I have my internet setting on my PS3 set to off. The disc started playing instantly as a result.
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post #42 of 57
10/5/08 at 7:21pm

Re: A few words about...™ Iron Man -- in Blu-ray

Is it only me or should this added content not download unless you specifically request that informaion on the disc. This automatic download of additional content right when you pop in the movie seems like a severe oversight when most people just want to see the movie when they first pop in a disc. I see lots of problems on Tuesday nights forthcoming.
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post #43 of 57
10/5/08 at 8:58pm

Re: A few words about...™ Iron Man -- in Blu-ray

^ Totally agree with you. Unfortunately, with the PS3, if you don't want auto-download of (the IME usually crappy) BD web content, you pretty much have to forgo BD auto-start (what I did) or disable the web interface. You can choose to have the PS3 ask you, but then that's not exactly auto-start anymore (we/I need a "never" option). I don't know how other stand-alone 2.0 players are...
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post #44 of 57
10/5/08 at 10:22pm

Re: A few words about...™ Iron Man -- in Blu-ray

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Originally Posted by Ron-P
I have a BD-P1000, what a POS machine, I cannot play a handful of discs. It's pretty much nothing but a paper weight now. I highly doubt I'll ever buy another Samsung player again because of this.

I had no problems with this on my PS3, heck out of the 100's of Blu-rays I've spun with it I've not had a single issue yet, fantastic player.

I did return my set to Amazon due to the fact the #1 disc was loose in the case and was scratched. Best news is I picked up the helmet 2-disc set at Target for only $2 more then what Amazon charged me for the regular 2-disc.

I'm not sure its completely Samsung's fault. It was after all the first BD player on the market for a format that was, at the time, not finished.

Doug
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post #45 of 57
10/6/08 at 7:15pm

Re: A few words about...™ Iron Man -- in Blu-ray

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Originally Posted by Douglas Monce
I'm not sure its completely Samsung's fault. It was after all the first BD player on the market for a format that was, at the time, not finished.

Doug

Then Samsung should have waited, so I blame them, 100%. Don't sell players that cannot play the format they were designed to play. If it's an unfinished format then work with the studios to provide better, faster updates which Samsung has not done, at all.
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post #46 of 57
10/6/08 at 7:32pm

Re: A few words about...™ Iron Man -- in Blu-ray

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Originally Posted by Ron-P
Then Samsung should have waited, so I blame them, 100%. Don't sell players that cannot play the format they were designed to play. If it's an unfinished format then work with the studios to provide better, faster updates which Samsung has not done, at all.
The way I see it is that the Samsung should be able to play the Blu-ray movie (main feature) on every disc, even if the added upgrades and the specification change is not compatible with the progression of the rest of the technology. i.e. Backwards compatibility should always be factored in for existing functions. Otherwise, with the initial $1,000.00+ price tag, a class-action lawsuit could be on the horizon for some aggressive attorney.

What consequences would stop future incompatibility problems on future models?


Paul
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post #47 of 57
10/7/08 at 8:35am

Re: A few words about...™ Iron Man -- in Blu-ray

hey guys , i watched iron man last night and the dolby true HD track sounded awful. i have the onkyo 605 and have never had a problem with any true hd tracks before as far as the quality of the sound that is. Is this a fault in the disc or do i have to adjust my receiver ?or like someone had said earlier in this post or should i exchange it for another one ? thank you.
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post #48 of 57
10/7/08 at 10:42am

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Originally Posted by carpenterfan
hey guys , i watched iron man last night and the dolby true HD track sounded awful. i have the onkyo 605 and have never had a problem with any true hd tracks before as far as the quality of the sound that is. Is this a fault in the disc or do i have to adjust my receiver ?or like someone had said earlier in this post or should i exchange it for another one ? thank you.

Best check all your settings. I have the 805 and this is one of the best sounding TrueHD tracks I've heard. What player are you using? Also, be sure to turn off the DRC setting, or as Onkyo calls it, night mode, I believe.
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post #49 of 57
10/7/08 at 11:01am

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Originally Posted by carpenterfan
hey guys , i watched iron man last night and the dolby true HD track sounded awful. i have the onkyo 605 and have never had a problem with any true hd tracks before as far as the quality of the sound that is. Is this a fault in the disc or do i have to adjust my receiver ?or like someone had said earlier in this post or should i exchange it for another one ? thank you.
Some blu-ray movies trigger the "dynamic range compression"feature on the Onkyo when playing DD TrueHD. When playing the movie in TrueHD make sure the DRC is not active. All you have to do is, while playing the movie press the button on the receivers remote that says "L Night". It's at the very bottom, second from the right. It has "dvd' written under it. Hit the button till it says "off" on screen. The difference should be apparent after that. You may have to try this with other DD TrueHD titles as well.
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post #50 of 57
10/7/08 at 11:08am

Re: A few words about...™ Iron Man -- in Blu-ray

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Originally Posted by Ron-P
Then Samsung should have waited, so I blame them, 100%. Don't sell players that cannot play the format they were designed to play. If it's an unfinished format then work with the studios to provide better, faster updates which Samsung has not done, at all.
I agree. Samsung should have waited and put a better player on the market. Like the Samsung BDP1500 I own. Iron Man plays beautifully. Easily a reference title here.
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post #51 of 57
10/8/08 at 12:32pm

Re: A few words about...™ Iron Man -- in Blu-ray

Have to pass a technique I just learned from another site that got my "Iron Man" (Blu-ray) to play on the Samsung BD-P1000!

Links don't work so here is the quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDad
What I did was just hold the FF button (the one on the player, not the remote) for maybe 5 seconds. Your TV screen will then go black - on mine, for some reason, it also changed my resolution to 720p, so you'll have to change that back. Plus it reset all the settings (like after you do a firmware update). But it did allow Cloverfield to play. I don't have ID4 - so I can't vouch for that title.

Ron-P, try this with your other discs.

Paul Snyder, hope it works for you too.

And as I said on the other site, It's amazing to me that Samsung tech support is telling people "we are having compatibility problem right now with Iron man", rather than giving them "clear the cache" instructions that may solve the problem.

Paul
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post #52 of 57
10/8/08 at 5:14pm

Re: A few words about...™ Iron Man -- in Blu-ray

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Originally Posted by Paul Hillenbrand
Have to pass a technique I just learned from another site that got my "Iron Man" (Blu-ray) to play on the Samsung BD-P1000!

Links don't work so here is the quote:

Ron-P, try this with your other discs.

Paul Snyder, hope it works for you too.

And as I said on the other site, It's amazing to me that Samsung tech support is telling people "we are having compatibility problem right now with Iron man", rather than giving them "clear the cache" instructions that may solve the problem.

Paul

No need, I replaced my BD-P1000 with a PS3 about 6 months ago or so. I retired the BD-P1000 to the livingroom TV which now almost never gets used. I plan to sell it as soon as a worthy stand alone BD player hits the market that can rival the PS3 with both price and performance.
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post #53 of 57
10/9/08 at 11:48am

Re: A few words about...™ Iron Man -- in Blu-ray

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Originally Posted by troy evans
I agree. Samsung should have waited and put a better player on the market. Like the Samsung BDP1500 I own. Iron Man plays beautifully. Easily a reference title here.

I bought that same model Blu-Ray player just this week and Iron Man as well. I watched Iron Man on it three times, no problem, then I did the firmware update last night, Iron Man will no longer play.

Slightly frustrating to say the least.
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post #54 of 57
10/9/08 at 12:06pm

Re: A few words about...™ Iron Man -- in Blu-ray

Thanks for the tip, Paul. I tried it but it didn't work for me. It did switch to 720p like you said but mine just goes black then blue and back again without actually starting the movie.

Is there another step I need to do?

Thanks!
Paul
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post #55 of 57
10/9/08 at 12:09pm

Re: A few words about...™ Iron Man -- in Blu-ray

Hmm. My disk has the first UPC, so it's defective?

What's wrong with it? It seemed fine when I played it last night.
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post #56 of 57
10/9/08 at 12:49pm

Re: A few words about...™ Iron Man -- in Blu-ray

I tried over and over but no IRONMAN for me.

I guess I have to cough up $300+ to watch this Blu Ray.
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post #57 of 57
10/9/08 at 1:19pm

Re: A few words about...™ Iron Man -- in Blu-ray

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Originally Posted by Paul D Snyder
Thanks for the tip, Paul. I tried it but it didn't work for me. It did switch to 720p like you said but mine just goes black then blue and back again without actually starting the movie.

Is there another step I need to do?

Thanks!
Paul
Sorry to hear that. It was a shock that it worked for me.
One last long shot would be to exchange "Iron Man" for a new copy to make sure it's not defective and try clearing the cache one more time.

Paul
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