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Originally Posted by
gene c 
Hey Paul, care to share some of those "tweaks" with us? I don't fool with those fake 5.1's too much either but once in a while I will.
Also, I find PLII softens the top end a bit compared to Neo:6. Neo:6 doesn't seem to send as much to the surrounds as PLII so I up the rear volume a little bit but the high end seems a bit better than it is with PLII.
And right now I'm not listening to a thing. Very rare for me.
BTW, I pulled out my copy of Rumours on DVD-A after you mentioned it a few days ago. That is a very good disc.
A while ago, a power outage happened and all my settings in my receiver went back to factory default (very annoying). I was too busy to do anything except make sure all the inputs were sending a signal to the receiver (the assignable digital coax and optical inputs were all messed up as the factory default did not correspond to my gear). A few days ago I came across a thread at another forum that was arguing about whether DPLII (and similar) things were "worth it" for music. I had tried it years ago when I first got my receiver and was not especially impressed when compared to discrete MCH mixes like that found on Rumours, so I never bothered with it (I do use it for movies and TV that are in 2.0 and prefer that to the 2.0 audio in those cases). However, in the thread, it mentioned that DPLII (Music) can be adjusted (Movie cannot). I don't remember if I played with the settings when I bought the receiver (I bought over six years ago) but everything was back to factory default so I decided to give it a go. I finally got around to resetting the levels with my SPL and then I accessed the DPLII (Music) adjustments (not all receivers allow access to those adjustments, apparently, but most newer (2007 and newer) receivers do, according to the thread I was reading). There are three things available to adjust in my receiver. Panorama, Dimension and Centre Width.
Panorama is an On/Off setting--when set to on, it directs more of the front L/R towards the rears/sides (depending on whether you have a 5.1/7.1 system). If I understand what the new Audyssey DSX Width channels are for, I suspect this is a less sophisticated attempt to do the same thing. The effect it has in my room is to expand the soundstage width.
Dimension has a 0-6 range in my receiver. Default is 3. It works something like the "fader" control in a car stereo. The closer to 0 you set it, the more forward the sound. The closer to 6, the more rearward the sound.
Centre Width has a 0-7 range in my receiver. Default is 3. In DPLII (Movie), the setting is 0 (and cannot be adjusted). The closer to 0, the more "hard centre" the signal becomes. The closer to 7, less material is in the centre (7 itself sends nothing to the centre--effectively turning it off).
I fiddled around with about 5 CDs (some classical, some 70s prog rock, some big band vocal jazz, some Hendrix, some 80s pop/rock) and tried different settings. I settled upon Panorama: On, Dimension 3, Centre Width 5. With these settings, in my room (I have room treatments and a parametric EQ for my sub), the effect is more discrete than the factory settings (Panorama: Off, Dimension 3, Centre Width 3) and while not as good as discrete MCH mixes like those on SACD and DVD-A, it is pleasant enough to warrant giving it an extended try-out (I've decided to spend September using it for all my stereo music recordings and then doing another round of A/B'ing next month). With these settings, the sound is not "gimmicky" (unlike some of the other settings my receiver offers).
I won't abandon 2 channel altogether. I plan to upgrade the living room sound system and it will remain 2 channel. But I'm willing to give DPLII, with these tweaks, an extended try-out before making a final judgement. Just as I had to get used to some of the more famous tracks in their new MCH configuration (Elton John, the Eagles, Fleetwood Mac), I think it only fair to get used to the sound of DPLII (Music) before making a final choice (it's easy enough to turn it off if it creates something seriously "off" with a particular disc/song).