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post #211 of 312

Re: Survivor: Gabon - Season 17

Holy shit! This was some of the most priceless television I
have ever watched....

...and you have to understand the sceptic that I am in thinking that
this went down so brilliantly that I can't help but think one of the
cameramen whispered to Sugar, "Ask Bob to give the Idol to Randy."

I mean, the chances of what went down exactly as they did are
staggering --- but okay, I'll buy it.

My insides were churning with anticipation the moment Bob offered
that Idol to Randy. I was chuckling as Crystal YELLED her vote in
front of the rest of the tribe with something along the lines of "You
have to go home!" I savored the comment that Sugar made calling
Randy an old alcoholic bigot who should grow up or face dying alone.

...and then the moment when Randy stood up and handed over the
fake idol. The hysterics in the faces of those who knew what was
going down...My God! I was in hysterics as well.

And you know what? As much as I have been rooting for Crystal to
go these last couple weeks, I can't argue the fact that Randy has been
one mean SOB this entire game and that more than anyone to date, he
deserves to go. It took me a while to get into that camp, but boy was
it fun watching him leave it.

This is a show for the books, folks!
post #212 of 312

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But, if I'm Bob, how does burning a jury vote help me win the game?

He may have burned a jury vote but he gained favor with Sugar, Crystal, and Susie (and probably Ken and Matty) so if anything he probably bought himself at least one more round, after Corinne. And the sole remaining outsider of an alliance is not always a terrible position to be in.

Re: the preview, I could be wrong but I don't think Marcus actually did that (how would he do it without anyone else seeing?), but I think Bob is telling that story to Corinne as justification as to why he gave Randy a fake idol; that he didn't know it was fake and that Marcus had created it.
post #213 of 312

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Originally Posted by AnthonyC

Re: the preview, I could be wrong but I don't think Marcus actually did that (how would he do it without anyone else seeing?), but I think Bob is telling that story to Corinne as justification as to why he gave Randy a fake idol; that he didn't know it was fake and that Marcus had created it.

Yep, he was clearly in "cover thy ass mode"!
post #214 of 312

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Originally Posted by Brent M
Can you imagine that guy doing your wedding video?

Heh......after this show is done, I think his business is gonna go down the toilet. I can't imagine anyone who would hire Randy with the kind of attitude that he has. What a major tool.

As for the episode......even though I could see the writing on the wall, It was no less satisfying watching Randy be made a complete fool of. The perfect ending for this loser.

Really impressed with Sugar's progression in this game.....she started out looking like she would be booted early, but she really has stepped up her game strategically in a big way since. I'm rooting for her.
post #215 of 312

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Really impressed with Sugar's progression in this game.....she started out looking like she would be booted early, but she really has stepped up her game strategically in a big way since. I'm rooting for her.

I don't think Sugar has so much "stepped up her game" as the editing has changed, and our perceptions of her have changed. Looking back, I think she had the "dumb blond" ploy as a major plan since day one, and before.

I think she is playing a brilliant game, and suspect that she is much, much brighter than the way she has been edited.
post #216 of 312

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Heh......after this show is done, I think his business is gonna go down the toilet. I can't imagine anyone who would hire Randy with the kind of attitude that he has. What a major tool.

As for the episode......even though I could see the writing on the wall, It was no less satisfying watching Randy be made a complete fool of. The perfect ending for this loser.

Really impressed with Sugar's progression in this game.....she started out looking like she would be booted early, but she really has stepped up her game strategically in a big way since. I'm rooting for her.
I could see Randy turning this into a completely new career - Hollyweird loves a whacko - think guys like Johnny Fairplay and Danny Bonaduce
post #217 of 312

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One thing I missed:

Sugar found the idol
Sugar gave Ace the idol
Ace left the game
Ace had his bag with him when he left the game.


Are we to assume that he gave it back to her at some point? I really would have liked to see that.
post #218 of 312

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She took it back from him the same episode she gave it to him.
post #219 of 312

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Yep. She whispered to him before TC that she took the idol back. He didn't seem suspicious of this at all. He just nodded and said "ok".
post #220 of 312

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I COMPLETELY missed that. Thank you.
post #221 of 312

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I find the Ponderosa videos on cbs.com/survivor to be a fascinating look behind the scenes. Have they ever showed the "jury house" before?
post #222 of 312

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Kenny's reaction when Crystal yelled her vote out had me laughing hard. He was so surprised, LOL.

Brilliant episode. Hilarious.
post #223 of 312

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Best tribal council yet. I keep rewatching it from the moment Randy learns it is a fake till the end of it. So freakin hilarious! Crystals little speech is priceless as are the reactions of those who hear her.
post #224 of 312

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I'll miss Randy, but the way he left was priceless.

Too bad Jeff threw the fake idol in the fire- they should have saved that for the charity auction.
post #225 of 312

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Jeff has always thrown the fake HII into the fire since it was first done in China. When they threw it into the fire in FvsF, Ozzy giggled, "Hey, I worked hard on that!" -- I think he wanted it back. So, even though Bob's was meticulously crafted, its fate was to end up engulfed in flames.
post #226 of 312

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Recap episode. Man, is Corinne a bitch. Her snobbish comments re the reward feast ("It's pate! Don't you know what pate is?!") puts her on the same social level as Randy. And her utter contempt of Sugar simply for being a model and free spirit was clearly spelled out. How will she react when she discovers Sugar completely pwns her?

BTW - they showed a close up shot of the Immunity Bottle floating in the water. It did not look like it'd been opened, but I wasn't able to pause the image to get a closer look.
post #227 of 312
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Originally Posted by Paul D G
Man, is Corinne a bitch. Her snobbish comments re the reward feast ("It's pate! Don't you know what pate is?!") puts her on the same social level as Randy.

Yeah. Between the two, I think I'd rather spend time with Randy. Even though she is much easier on the eyes than Randy, you know, there are certain cases when that just doesn't count for squat.

But, as always, you've got to take everything with a grain of salt because we only see what the editors let us see. Randy, however, certainly seems to have some social skill issues, doesn't he?!?
post #228 of 312

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I knew Kenny was going to get "blindsided" in some respect since the producers kept on playing up him having a big head in the game (if I make it to the final 3, I'll win, that type of stuff), so with Kenny left holding the bag with the 3rd vote against Matty, he is in a pickle, and he'll have to throw Crystal under the bus if he wants to try to advance one more week if he doesn't win immunity. Kenny should have just voted off Corinne as well (to show that the final 5 are strong, not splintered), but he does have a better shot at getting Bob's and Corinne's jury votes, but he might not get to the final tribal council as a non-juror.

Corinne's final words were definitely all corinne-worthy.
post #229 of 312

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Kenny's in a pickle no doubt!
The gamer got gamed!! ha
Outwitted!
He could have voted Corinne too and it wouldn't have mattered HAD Corinne had an idol.

And no doubt about those final words Patrick! She's a bitch

My girl Sugar has no chance of getting the vote at the end it seems.
And her whole alliance KNOWS she has an idol yet they haven't even tried to flush it.
Guess they want her in the final thinking no way she can win..

I'm starting to think Matty may sneak by and win this.
Don't think Bob can worm his way through 3 more tribal councils...if he could he'd have all the votes there now and the $$$.
post #230 of 312
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Bob rocks. Like Kenny, I wasn't sure Bob had much game, but he's certainly doing what he needs to get done in order to continue to scrape by week by week.

I thought Bob's win of the reward challenge and the reunion with his wife was one of the coolest Survivor moments in a long while. They sure had a lot of prime footage to show in this episode (hence, I guess, the abbreviated opening theme)...but they sure didn't show much of the visit from the loved ones. That's usually quite an important moment each season.
post #231 of 312

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Bob's pretty much the token "gets the boot right before the finals" player for this season. I'd be shocked if he ends up anywhere besides 4th place, even if he doesn't get immunity the next two rounds.

This episode would've been way better if Matty had actually gotten the boot, since that would be the second time this season my winner prediction was voted out. And plus, as much as the game had been shaken up the past few weeks, it is slipping up into Pagonging territory at this point, even if the five in power weren't all from the same tribe. It was way more exciting to see that in Marquesas (second most underrated season after Africa).
post #232 of 312

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What an emotional ass I am!

I was choked up for pretty much the first half of this week's
show. Count on Survivor to be able to tug on the viewer's emotional
strings by bringing in family members.

Little surprised that the moments with Corrine and Crystal's family
member were omitted.

I was so surprised that Corrinne went home. I thought it would
be a landslide choice that Matty would leave....or at least I thought
that was the plan.

Also surprised so many people going after Bob. Nice guy, and I
don't see the threat other than the fact he isn't aligned with any of
the other players.

What was Corrinne's final line that everyone is talking about?

Clearly, this is my favorite show -- certainly the one I look forward
to the most week after week. Gotta again thank RAF for
pushing me to watch this show.
post #233 of 312

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Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein

What was Corrinne's final line that everyone is talking about?


It was something like " I am pulling for Bob and (hesitates) Kenny but I hope the rest have miserable lives".
A major bitch to the end. Doesn't she realize she is going to have to face these people at the reunion show? Her attitude cannot be good for anyone watching back home either: her employer, potential mates, friends, etc. talk about true colors coming through!
post #234 of 312

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Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein
Also surprised so many people going after Bob. Nice guy, and I
don't see the threat other than the fact he isn't aligned with any of
the other players.

Bob is a nice guy.....that is his other strength (besides being extremely resourceful in a pinch). If he makes it to the final vote by the jury, he will be virtually unbeatable....the only one that I could see voting against him is Randy, who he completely suckered with one of his 'idols'. That's pretty much why they want him out soon.

At this point, my hope is for Bob to take it.....if not him, Sugar or Matty will do. Kenny and Crystal could get eaten by a Lion for all I care (Kenny would have to serve as the appetizer since there's virtually no meat on them bones).
post #235 of 312

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Bob is McGuyver and The Professor from Gilligans Island personified... very resourceful man... Funny that Corrine said only her Brother "Got Her"... I hope Kenny and Crystal go next, although that would put Susan in good shape to win.
post #236 of 312

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Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein
Clearly, this is my favorite show -- certainly the one I look forward
to the most week after week. Gotta again thank RAF for
pushing me to watch this show.

Ronald, you have to check out some of the earlier ones. This is a great season for sure, but there are a few past ones that blow it out of the water.

Unfortunately, the majority are unable on DVD (legally).
post #237 of 312

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I keep watching just to see how it turns out. Normally this show is really enjoyable, but this is easily the worst season for me.

Other than Bob, I can't stand any of the remaining survivors. I think the many team shuffles have really screwed up the enjoyment factor of this season.

It's probably pretty hard to do the interviews and figure out what kind of contestant you'll really get, but I don't ever recall a more unlikeable group of people.
post #238 of 312
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Originally Posted by Stan
I think the many team shuffles have really screwed up the enjoyment factor of this season.



Amen.
post #239 of 312

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I'm trying to figure out who was the bigger moron of the show - Corinne or Kenny.

- Corinne (and Bob) come up with this 'brilliant' plan of the fake idol. My first impression was they would show this around camp so everyone would mentally take Corinne of the candidate roster.
- Then it becomes clear she only wanted to use it to convert a couple of people to her side so she gets the upper hand - and only shows Kenny?
- Kenny then goes to Crystal and tells her to vote for CORINNE so she could play the idol and Matty would get blindsided (again ???). Which was apparently the plan; to blindside Matty.

I assume Kenny came up with the playing-the-idol on his own without telling Corinne (because she didn't have an idol to play she wouldn't have suggested this). If so, even if she had a real idol, she wouldn't have known to play it and STILL would have been voted out.

So Corinne's plan completely backfired on her. And it wasn't a good plan to begin with. Yet there she is patting herself on the back, congratulating herself for duping "a bunch of idiots", yet the only person she told the plan to was Kenny. So there's only one idiot. The one she calls a friend.

And at her final words does she express regret that the plan failed? No, she bitches about Sugar. I wonder if the complete Final Words is online somewhere I have to see that.

And it wasn't just that she wished everyone miserable lives, it was the look-at-how-cute-i-am smile she gave afterwards.

So. At the reunion show. Will Corinne be all full of love like people usually are, or will she sit there fuming at having to be with these people again (in the second row)?
post #240 of 312

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While I'm enjoying the show, I've been also frustrated by the endless tribal reshuffles this season. Kenny and Fang didn't dismantle Kota, the producers did. By all appearances Kota was set to obliterate Fang, but was twice broken apart so the individuals could be picked off. It means that there really isn't much reason to build tribe unity and teamwork in the beginning of the show because becoming a strong tribe confers no advantage. It just becomes self interest. Part of the fun of the show was the conflict of tribe loyalty early vs. self-preservation later.
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