"TERMINATOR: The Sarah Connor Chronicles" Season 2 Thread - Page 11

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Oh yeah, it got my adrenalin going suddenly too! It was as if someone at Fox suddenly allowed the show to be more for grown-ups. That was dramatic. Cameron is being tough again, and it is great. When was the last time she did more than lip-service to the fact that she'll kill to protect their secrecy? Since she killed the counterfeit-documents maker in the initial season? So it came as a shock after all this time.

And did I almost call it or what when I said a few weeks ago that Cromartie would get a job at a supermarket to find the Connors? Hee hee. So close! My opinion of the actor playing Cromartie has improved, too. He's better at it now.

That was a good episode. I didn't understand what the AWOL future trooper had to do with the diamond trader, but, I'll watch it again to figure out. And it was a little silly that the T-800 that was a perfect fascimile of the FBI Agent had to ask the FBI Agent if he was indeed him. But, I suppose the Terminators are simply thorough-minded! So, that was ok.

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No. I think she used to look good about ten years ago, but not so much now.



The other "damn!" moment was when he knocked that girl out the car door. That was funny.

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The good news is that the writers have moved beyond "bad". The bad news is that now they've settled into "boring". God, I wish they would start moving the plot foward instead of these episodes where they just kill time.

I think I'll finish watching the remainder of the season and the season opener* to see how they resolve the inevitable cliffhanger, and then I wash my hands of this mess. And then I shed a tear for the squandered potential.

*Assuming it survives, of course

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I thought last night's episode was great.


That was definitely a "woah" moment for me too. I also like how Sarah was bitching at John for jeapordizing their safety, but in the end she put them in danger by not killing the fourth kid in the bowling alley. Great stuff.


I don't find her attractive at all either. Hmmm, speaking of Kristanna Lokan, that's about enough to make me want to watch T3 again.


For some reason I don't believe you.

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I didn't see this as a treading water episode at all - instead, things began to pay off. Connor's girlfriend didn't just vanish, she caused something to happen. The mean girl that Cameron befriended became a liability in a big way. Cromartie reappeared. Things are starting to have cause and effect now. Unlike, say, that weird school plot that went nowhere in season one.**

About Catherine Weaver, I don't think she is meant to be attractive, she's meant to be kinda creepy. Nonetheless she is ok, in a prematurely aged kind of way. But this sort of talk is what started the first war against Redheads - which decimated their population to the point of near-extinction. Can't let that happen again!


** On the other hand, I could see where people feel they are killing time. By all rights, John and his mom and Cameron should be leading terrorist attacks against American targets that they know will later turn into Skynet. I think there's no chance they'll ever be allowed to seriously portray that, so I no longer look for it. The network would freak if they had heroes who regularly did what Sarah and John did at the end of T2.

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They are definitely succeeding on the creepy front.

I was fearing that Sarah's moment of mercy was going to burn her. Cromartie is telling the truth that he won't let Sarah kill they guy. As soon as he tells Cromartie where they got the goods he is going to kill him.

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Was that a guy? I thought it was a girl in the bathroom stall scene but I couldn't tell in the Cromartie scene.

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Close call, but I think it was a guy.

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FOX's plans for the show have just been made. Fox launches Friday sci-fi block - washingtonpost.com

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Joss has got to be beating his head against a wall saying "Argh! FOX!"

Actually, though, as someone who stays home with kids, Friday is the night I actually have to watch TV. So good by me.

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Good thing there isn't a cable network that airs several popular sci-fi series on Fridays, including one that will be in its last season come spring and conflict with Dollhouse in some time zones.

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I like that it is a conceptually sensible pairing -- a Whedon show followed by a show with a Whedon alum. I also like that this means that DVR recordings and downloads will be available to watch any time during the weekend.

The article does not mention WHEN this change starts, does it?

EDIT: Update: A different news source says "Friday, February 13" is when Dollhouse starts, so presumably this is when this new schedule starts.

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From Breaking News - FOX ANNOUNCES 2008-2009 MIDSEASON SCHEDULE | TheFutonCritic.com

So I would guess that once the SCC stops sometime in December there won't be any new episodes on any night until February 13.

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Other way around, actually - Terminator before Dollhouse.

I'm kind of surprised we haven't seen the usual Whedon enthusiasts up in arms about this, but I don't know where else you put these shows once American Idol and 24 come off the bench.

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There's about 300 comments on Whedonesque.com about it so far:
http://whedonesque.com/comments/18042

2 of those comments say that Friday might not be so bad now that DVRs and downloads exist. You can imagine what the other 298 comments say!

There's an excellent commentary article about it at
http://www.newsarama.com/tv/110807-Friday-Sci-Fi.html
which points out that Friday will actually be a terrific lineup, with Battlestar Galactica at 10pm making the third hour (as Sean alluded to earlier). The article calls Friday a "nerd sanctuary" and says it might actually be a safe place for these shows:

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If Friday's good for the show, great. But, my Friday is already filled with potential DVR conflicts as it is. I have no interest in Dollhouse, but I currently record Ghost Whisperer, Crusoe, Don't Forget/Lyrics, Fifth Grader, and Star Wars. I already have to record a later version of Star Wars to fit it all in. I don't know what I'll do when Sarah is added to the mix. I need one of those four tuner DVRs.

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These are Fox shows, so wouldn't Terminator and Dollhouse be filling their time slots come February?

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Ahh, great point! Conflict averted! I wonder if the game shows will be on hiatus at that point, or if they'll go back to their Thursday slots. That would work for me.

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Mondays is the jam packed day for me, so the move to Friday is fine as long as it can survive there. I guess we'll see.

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Eh, if he doesn't want to be concerned with what the network wants, he can use someone else's money to produce his show. Like it or not, the folks who supply $2M+/week get a say in the matter.

Hiatus, I believe - Bones and the Gordon Ramsey shows will take Thursday. Of course, I suspect the game shows will either have episodes banked or go back into production quickly in case Dollhouse or Lie To Me tanks, or (to get kind of back on topic) Terminator free-falls far enough that Fox pushes what's left to summer.

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X-Files was Hugely succesful on Friday nights for quite Sometime.

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But it was almost canned in its first season. That was the old FOX, they took risks, and had to hold on for a lack of anything else to air. The ratings didnt go up until the summer reruns. What show is given that kind of chance now?! I am sure someone had faith in the show too.

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Well, you implied that "good" was something different than what the network wanted. I tend to think that they want good, but they are more concerned with what is salable than the writers, so they're looking at what Whedon's doing and saying yeah, okay, this is good and we believe you when you say it pays off big time in episode 12, but if it doesn't hit the ground running, we won't make it to episode 4. I also tend to think that Whedon doesn't do himself a lot of favors hanging out on his own fansites, although the Us Vs. Them rhetoric does seem to be rather toned down this time around.

Actually, they were going up during the first season, especially relative to its lead-in, Brisco County Junior. If it hadn't shown signs of life until the summer, there would have been no second season.

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Joss only has the one fansite he writes to, whedonesque.com, and compared to other famous authors like Neil Gaiman who write one or two blog entries to their site every day, Joss' once-every-once-and-awhile approach is quite reserved, imo!

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Ok...tonight's ep started out kinda good. Even the start of Mexico was good, despite that same freaking church being used every time a tv show has an episode in Mexico (Carnivale, Arrested Development, etc).

Somewhere in the last act is got kinda silly, and the "Mexican Godfather music" made it purely campy. People in my house laughed when the music started up. The direction (or cinematography I guess you'd call it) was just too trite to pull off that kind of music, imo.

But I'll forgive the occasional lackluster showdown since they're on a tv budget and have a tv schedule.