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post #241 of 876
10/15/08 at 11:41am

Re: "TERMINATOR: The Sarah Connor Chronicles" Season 2 Thread

If you think "Doctor Who" is a better show, it's a problem of taste not a problem of quality.

Ah, but provable quality! One is a ratings behemoth with a boatload of awards, one is struggling just to survive week to week. But I'm not comparing shows versus show - I was just saying that

If you've served as officer in the military and completed your service honorably, and all of the other paperwork checks out, it makes sense that a military academy would want to hire you.

While I'm not looking for too much reality in a franchise about killer robots from the future trying to kill people, this is too much of a stretch. The only reason he got the job was because Its In The Script. Sloppy, sloppy indeed.

It's called a lame joke.

Fixed that for you.

It's called being a kid.

It's called crap writing.

Since the parents were placed into protective custody after the murder of another by the same name and the disappearance of their son, it's the obvious answer. The parents of most kidnapped children aren't automatically put into protective custody.
And of course that's going to stop a machine that's designed to blend in, sneak up to a target and exterminate them. And they weren't exactly in seclusion, since the parents were appearing on television.

So did they finally put this wounded dog down? It didn't appear on Hulu Tuesday.
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post #242 of 876
10/15/08 at 1:15pm

Re: "TERMINATOR: The Sarah Connor Chronicles" Season 2 Thread

No, they didn't. Baseball. I'm sending SWAT to your house so they can stop your TV from forcing you to watch this.
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post #243 of 876
10/16/08 at 1:24pm

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There's a handy countdown-to-next-episode widget available on fox.com/terminator. I put it on my blog but there's also a version that you can put on your desktop.
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post #244 of 876
10/17/08 at 9:52pm

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Praise the robot gods 'Conner fans, we're getting a full season;

SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES Gets Full-Season Pick-Up!! What Does This Mean For Joss Whedon’s DOLLHOUSE?? -- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news.
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post #245 of 876
10/17/08 at 10:30pm

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Sweet. That is great news.
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post #246 of 876
10/17/08 at 10:36pm

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Excellent. This, Chuck and Prison Break make Mondays into Fundays. Groan.
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post #247 of 876
10/18/08 at 2:34am

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Yeee-haw! Fantastic news, didn't believe there was a chance for that after all that doom and gloom. I am extremely happy about this....thank you, FOX!

What does this mean for Dollhouse, though? Hopefully not the Friday-timeslot-of-death?
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post #248 of 876
10/18/08 at 5:46am

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Nice. Def worthy of another season or 2.
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post #249 of 876
10/18/08 at 6:45am

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Excellent! I saw the activity in this thread and was worried the show got cancelled.
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post #250 of 876
10/18/08 at 12:22pm
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Color me extremely happy too. I was going to be extremely pissed if they sacrificed this show for the tired and lower-rated "Prison Break." As for what they should do come mid-season... I would take the show off the air and run the second half during the summer. It plays really well when there's no competition.
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post #251 of 876
10/18/08 at 12:36pm

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As for what they should do come mid-season... I would take the show off the air and run the second half during the summer. It plays really well when there's no competition.

I agree. This is an ultimate summer type show. And now that Cable has dropped sci-fi staples like Stargate (gone), 4400 (gone), BSG will finish it's run January-May... it'd be good to have some summer SciFi faire.
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post #252 of 876
10/18/08 at 1:47pm

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Stargate is starting up again in either January or February.
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post #253 of 876
10/19/08 at 11:23am

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Hopefully they will give us some better scripts to finish out the season.
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post #254 of 876
10/21/08 at 8:20am

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Now, I liked this episode, even though it there was A LOT going on. A psychologist's (Dorian Haywood) name was on that wall at the house, the Conners go to therapy to figure out why, John really wants to unload, we find out John actually killed that intruder to protect his mom.
Plot B - Robot-Red's faux-daughter sees the same psychologist after it's evident she knows something "wrong" with mommy-bot. At the same time, Turk is learning how to tell jokes like a kid, and Robot-Red asks the psychologist to help her "raise" the burgeoning AI.
Plot C - A chick soldier Derrick had a thing with in the future has come to the past. Turns out she's been doing surveillance on John and Derrick.
Plot D - Cameron becomes fascinated with the facts of teen suicide, and has a full on fight with a fembot that self terminates after Cameron turns her into a pretzel.
Plot E - Agent Ellis getting interested in the mysterious basement happenings at Robot-Red's company.

Did I leave anything out?
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post #255 of 876
10/21/08 at 11:07am

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Dear god, when is Sarah going to cut the umbilical cord and let John Man-up? "Oh no, you got a burn from a shell casing!" Is it any wonder he's a total emo wuss?

And exactly how stupid is the resistance, anyway? If you have a bunch of Terminators working for you - and they flip out as much as they seem to do, why don't they equip them with some kind of "Oh no, it's turned! Kill it!" switch? Wtf, john . . . learn from your mistakes.

And if you're going to all the trouble of escaping to the past, why would you jump back in time only a couple of years before the atomic war? Aside from getting nookie from your ex on a regular basis. Jump back to the 70's or something. Why not jump back to a completely other time when you could completely live your life, instead of "hey now i have no more than a handful of years left"

And Sexbot fighting the Supertemp was fine, but that time-out in the middle of the fight. Funny, but completely inappropriate - better suited to a loony toons cartoon than a serious drama. The Supertemp should not have cared and would have killed the others just to get back to completing the mission (or in this case, removing the obstacle to completing the mission) while Sexbot would probably not do much to save them but wouldn't hurt them if she could help it.

Man, John really needed to go "Look, I know this is going to sound batshit crazy, but I've got issues because there are these robots . . . ." and quit dancing around. And just watch, they'll never visit that doctor again even though both John & Sarah were opening up to him so giving the impression that they need that outlet. . . but story-wise he'll never be back. They don't need to show them going to sessions on a regular basis, it would be nice if this were more than one of those "we wrote this story to be a story, not to be part of the ongoing development" episodes.

Or hell - do a whole episode with no action and John making real progress to being a Man instead of a wuss. But that would take real balls for the network to make.
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post #256 of 876
10/21/08 at 11:26am

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Tony, I really look foreward to your posts every week, it reassures me that i'm not the only one who can see how off the James Cameron rails this show is.
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post #257 of 876
10/21/08 at 11:44am

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You know, I would rather see John become an unhinged badass and have Sarah worried she has raised an out-of-control psycho killer rather than the emo "i don't know what i am" wuss that he is with her trying to figure out how to gently cut the umbilical.

It's an action sci-fi show. Are girls tuning in that they need to service the demo?

I could almost deal with all the logic/tech flubs if they just changed this aspect of the show.
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post #258 of 876
10/21/08 at 12:12pm

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Originally Posted by Inspector Hammer!
Tony, I really look foreward to your posts every week, it reassures me that i'm not the only one who can see how off the James Cameron rails this show is.

Thanks - it makes me happy that someone is getting pleasure from the show, even in a backwards way like that.
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post #259 of 876
10/21/08 at 4:21pm

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And Sexbot fighting the Supertemp was fine, but that time-out in the middle of the fight. Funny, but completely inappropriate - better suited to a loony toons cartoon than a serious drama. The Supertemp should not have cared and would have killed the others just to get back to completing the mission (or in this case, removing the obstacle to completing the mission) while Sexbot would probably not do much to save them but wouldn't hurt them if she could help it.

Not much "bothers" me about the show, but that did. It was the moment it felt like the writers didn't care (or know) about the basic premise of the show. Terminators want to wipe out humanity, but they'll stop fighting because a family with a little boy enters an elevator?
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post #260 of 876
10/21/08 at 4:26pm

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Not much "bothers" me about the show, but that did. It was the moment it felt like the writers didn't care (or know) about the basic premise of the show. Terminators want to wipe out humanity, but they'll stop fighting because a family with a little boy enters an elevator?

This didn't bother me as much. I figured that both were concious of the time line. Making a big spectacle in the past would call attention to robots, which would be a big negative for SkyNet; and it would draw a giant red "X" on where John Conner likely is, a major problem for Sexbot. So, they both try o keep their cover.
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post #261 of 876
10/21/08 at 6:44pm
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If you come into each episode looking for things to complain about, Tony, why watch it at all? I mean, almost all of the things you nitpick about are accounted for within a given episode. Instead of cheerleading the show's demise, why not just change the channel?

I really don't get what people need from this show; I thought this week's episode was tremendous. Tony and John were sure that the the T-1001's daughter would be a mini-terminator because having a terminator care for a human child would be too subtle for Hollywood. She turned out to be Catherine Weaver's real daughter. And it was heartbreaking. Not only did the little girl know that the terminator wasn't her real mother, but the methods that T-1001 used to win her trust were sheer imitation. This was paralleled by the A.I. in the basement telling its first joke, a joke that the T-1001 for all its advancement and sophstication could not get.
After weeks of ambiguity, we finally discover that traumatic experience that took place in that upstairs bedroom: John Connor finally became a killer. That he needs to unload all he's bottled up since then makes him human and decent. The scene in the waiting room at the pyschologist's office said it all: the T-1001 after months and months with the little girl was unable to connect in the slightest. John Connor walks in the room and develops a rapport with this really troubled girl instantly, teaching her how to tie her shoe. The hypothesis being laid out by this show is, I think, beautiful: John Connor doesn't become the savior of mankind because he's the toughest, most bad-ass organic still standing. He becomes the savior of mankind because he's the least like the machines that one can possibly get. He understands instantly and intuitively all of the things that the terminators will never be able to completely understand.
The chick coming from the future to seek out Derrick didn't thrill me, except to drive home the weight that John Connor bears. Lots of people under those circumstances can't make it, including her and (if she hadn't interrupted things) Derrick Reese. Living as a soldier under seige 24/7 eats away at you. We won't ever know for sure whether the misfire in John's bedroom was a true accident or an aborted suicide attempt. But what we know is that holding the fate of the world in your hands takes a heavy toll. I really liked the psychologist, who was smarter than the room but genuinely cares about his patients. I hope he's back in the future.
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post #262 of 876
10/21/08 at 7:17pm

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My problem with the show is that, purely and simply, I dislike this version of the story, that's all it boils down to.

I find it clumsy, cheesy and needlessly complex (I can follow what's happening fine, I just don't agree with it) with far too many individuals and machines coming in from the future.

John's progress into the saviour of manking doesn't need to be this complex, I prefer his journey to maturity in T3 more because it was logical and happened when he thought it wouldn't and that made it dramatically satisfying for me.

One minute he was just trying to survive and before he knew it fate plopped him smack dab where he didn't want to be, he was for the most part ill-prepared and had to learn to rise to the occasion and fight and inspire others to fight beside him.

Here it's prepare, prepare, brooding, brooding, burden, burden, Terminators all over the place and it's all just too much. I get what the show is trying to do but IMO it's going about it in a very sloppy manner.

I keep watching because I am a Terminator fan and my morbid curiosity keeps me coming back, it's become a very guilty pleasure for me. I stated to my best friend that i'm still "rubbernecking" the show...it's a messy car crash but I must look as I drive past lol.

Glad it got picked up BTW.
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post #263 of 876
10/21/08 at 8:03pm
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Originally Posted by Inspector Hammer!
Glad it got picked up BTW.
I don't know if you noticed, but I waited to ask Tony why he didn't just stop watching until after the full-season pick-up.
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post #264 of 876
10/21/08 at 9:55pm

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I appreciate your comments each week, Adam.
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post #265 of 876
10/21/08 at 10:01pm

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post #266 of 876
10/21/08 at 11:13pm

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post #267 of 876
10/21/08 at 11:26pm

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I just feel like dancin'.
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post #268 of 876
10/21/08 at 11:30pm

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Don't know what's going on with all the double posts! The HTF must be having problems!
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post #269 of 876
10/21/08 at 11:33pm

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Deal.
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post #270 of 876
10/21/08 at 11:35pm

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I'm having the same issue.
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