"TERMINATOR: The Sarah Connor Chronicles" Season 2 Thread - Page 7

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Adam, you don't seem to understand my position when I say that it was nonsense. I watched it, payed attention and understood what was happening perfectly...I just didn't like what they were doing, that's all.

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Because I just don't care for how the show is handling the whole Terminator story, Cameron can't seem to make up her mind if she wants to kill John or save him and the whole story of how she got her appearance didn't appeal to me.

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I've never believed that SyFy Portal actually gets real tips from real insiders, and this latest quote from them just adds to their lack of credibility, imo.

A network would first try changing the night a show was on before they did something drastic like stop production.

I wouldn't be surprised if their "insider" is just a student doing temp work in the mailroom.

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I thought Monday's episode was the best of the season. However, I really thought / hoped that the lame intro that explains everything every single time would be cut after the first or second episode.

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I certainly hope they don't cancel this show. But it is beyond me, why they would put a show like this opposite of Monday Night Football. What were they thinking?

Give it a proper day/time and promote it and it will do well.

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I certainly don't know, but maybe they thought it was counter programming for the folks who don't watch football.

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Here's a sensible evaluation of the numbers from someone named Richard:

"Speaking of show ratings, last night's episode pulled about 5.53 million viewers, pretty much what it's been doing the last three episodes. However, they note on the front page that the DVR numbers for episode one pull the show up by another 1.5 million. Episode 2 did about the same. I think as long as the combined live view and DVR numbers are north of six million and the show does well in the 18-49 age slot, even against the new shows coming out, Fox may decide to keep it. We'll see how the numbers look for last week and this week. Fox should make a decision on the possibility of nine more episodes after the committed 13 and whether the show will be renewed after they see those numbers. Right now, it's iffy. But HBO renewed "True Blood" after just a couple episodes with only four million viewers. Hopefully Fox will give this show time to pull up the ratings. It was the number five best show on episode one, number eight on episode two. And number three of Fox's own shows."

Boy, if this was on HBO, not only would the show get a full season, but it could be more film-like!

And in related news, I am not the only person who thinks that SyFyPortal just makes up their so-called "insider" quotes:

"Before everyone hyperventilates read that bit. I say the guy wrote the article to drum up his hits. ...Though if they are canceling it why are they still casting roles for it? http://spoilertv.blogspot.com/2008/1...isode-212.html
It may just not get the back 9, but could get another 13 epi season next year. Or small chance it could be canceled, which with the rather slow pace and constantly piling on questions and not providing enough answers, I see why it may be losing ratings. I usually watch it on Hulu.com."

That said, I just exchanged an email with SyFy's Hinman and he protests that his anonymous sources are real. He pointed out that he has been a journalist for 16 years, which I certainly didn't know since the photo makes him look like he's maybe 20 years old. He says he is award-winning and well-respected in his field on the print side, in addition to his online writing. So he insists his insider was telling the truth -- even if, I would add, that the insider said absolutely nothing that wasn't present in the overnight national ratings feed. (Well, his claim that production would be halted was new, but, that sounded like a guess, the same kind of guess any fan would make).

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I'm gonna make my viewership count. I'm gonna buy the Sep 29 episode from Amazon. I may not have a Neilsen box but I want them to know I am watching!

It took some searching but here's the page at Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001GY2DPO/

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So could the patient who hallucinated it.

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I am a guy that really, REALLY wants to love this show. However, I merely like it. I hate the forced humour that creeps in from time to time. I am such a huge fan of the original Terminator. It is such a great movie. No B.S. No forced humour. Just tons of in your face action. This show needs to get back to those kinds of roots.

One question: If Summer is too damn heavy to swim, how much do you think she weighs? They had the T-800 skeleton stomping around like it was over 600 pounds of battle-hardened metal. I would think that "Cameron" would be well over 400 pounds of metal. How does she sit on a flimsy bunk-bed? How does that punk push her around so easily? I hate it when shows like this "forget" things about the characters. Sort of like when superhero shows have gross inconsistencies etc.

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I'd previously guessed 2 or 3 hundred pounds, and conjectured that she could swim with difficulty even if she doesn't like to, but if she is indeed designed to be an "Infiltrator" as opposed to a "Terminator" (not that the duties don't overlap sometimes!) it may be that she is made intentionally lighter so she'll blend in better. I guess we'll just have to suspend belief, since in the real world even if things can be made strong and light, they'd only be strong against certain forces and fragile against other forces, yet we've seen Cameron be strong even in explosions and against being punched and kicked by T-800s. She's just generally super. And strong. And light enough to sit on a bunkbed.

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Well that was WTF episode. Here's hoping that there is some payoff down the road for this, otherwise it was a wasted effort.

And what's with the Sarah/baby story angle? Is this baby going to be one of the future resistance fighters or something? Otherwise its a major waste of time.

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This idea is so intruiging that I have to copy & paste it here:

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Yeah, I had the same thoughts and reaction as the first paragraph, but the second is interesting. Sounds like shades of Joss Whedon's Dollhouse.

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It wasn't the girl that was sinking quickly, it was the net that was quickly being pulled up all around her. It just gives the illusion of her moving when she isn't.

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My friend Rene was in tonight's episode. He played Pyle, the cadet that got smacked-down verbally by Reese.

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This episode was so good. Man, I hope this show can beat the odds and stick around. It's becoming a favorite. When they are on, they are really on. Oddly, it seems like they are really on when they focus on Derek. Who would have thought a year ago that BAG could be so good?

What was that game the kid was playing before he was hustled out of the house? I must know. That looked awesome.

To answer an earlier question about the point of Sarah and the baby, I think it's twofold. The cop boyfriend is going to be a complication, and it's one step towards reconnecting Sarah with her humanity. Her bonding with little Marty was a big leap in that.

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I'm not saying I miss it, but did we ever get any info on what was going on at the school with the painted doors? Or the blonde girl from season 1?

It seems to me those are two storylines they decided weren't working, so they dropped them.

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A shame this show might disappear.

Since I feel no need to over analyze it, I just sit back and pretty much enjoy it each week.
Some fine acting by BAG.

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Last night's episode:

5 Stars out of 5 Stars

That was just about the best single episode of SCI-FI TV I've seen on a major network since Firefly's "Objects in Space".

I am now officially in awe of this show!!

(So I guess the series will be canceled next week, right? )

Seriously, that episode was "Too good for TV"!

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You need to watch some Battlestar Galactica

Though seriously, this was a very good episode - tops for the series, no doubt.

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I watch -- and enjoy -- Galactica; but that show's on a cable channel; *not* a major broadcast network. I stand by my statement that last night's "Terminator" ep was the best episodic SC-FI TV that I've witnessed on a major broadcast network (as opposed to a cable channel) since the "Firefly" cancellation. I really doubt that they can maintain this level of excellence; but at this moment in time I have to give this show its due.

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I understand now - in Canada we don't make the distinction between network and cable TV

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Must agree, this show is extremely well written and acted, overall. Last night, I gave my wife the opportunity to watch Chuck, and record this, and she wanted to watch Terminator instead! It will be a shame if and when this show goes off the air, much like Firefly (which I rewatch repeatedly on DVD and Hulu...)

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Cool. First name of the character Gomer by any chance?

I thought last night's episode was sure-footed. Not as groundbreaking as the Allison from Palmdale episode, but sure-footed. I also liked the way the commercials were only as long as web-commercials.*

*I thought about entering the contest to win the truck, but I imagine the taxes ("responsibility of the winner") on a $45,000 truck would be pretty steep.

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I figured that I would enter just to show the sponsors that people are watching.

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Clearly you need to watch Doctor Who. The Empty Child, Blink, Midnight and the Girl in the Fireplace all p0wnz this show so badly it's not even funny.


As for yesterdays epsisode proper,, it didnt offend me, but what a "Meh" episode. Probably the best they've done so far - which isnt saying much, mind you. . . .

So why didnt they do any sort of oh, you know - background check on Reese? "Hey, we don't know you - but you said you fought in The War. Want a job?"

What the heck were they doing naming one of the military goons Pyle? I was expecting Reese to get all Gunnery Sergeant Hartman on him. "Private Pyle I'm gonna give you three seconds; exactly three-fucking-seconds to wipe that stupid looking grin off your face or I will gouge out your eyeballs and skull-fuck you!"

And the kid was WAY too clingy. "Hi, you saved me. I'm too young to think that it all might have been part of an elaborate plan to kidnap me. Can i put my arm aroudn you while you read to me?" In fact that whole Wizard of Oz thing was way too schmaltzy.

Oh, and if they were going to do this story and have Garbagenator with the terminator eyeball, shouldn't they have shown that there was one that wasn't left behind (do that little reveal ala Time Bandits with the piece of evil that tumbles under the desk).

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I was watching last nights episode and during the "Wizard of OZ" reading, I thought to myself, "wow, this show has turned a corner". It was really good. I was truly involved in all of the flashbacks. Makes me hopeful for T4.

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Stockholm Syndrome.