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I suspected it might as soon as he jumped into the water. But if that's the case, why not just take John out on a boat until the war starts?

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And what a doofus that terminator is! All he had to do was hold onto the kid and take him to the bottom with him and drown him, is that so hard!

Oh, wait, that's right, i'm supposed to be on the kid's side.

The more I watch Riley (what a freakin' rack!) the more i'm becoming convinced that she's part of all this somehow, no girl would hang around a kid as wierd as John and keep doing it.

Busy's pregnancy looked all too real to me.

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I sometimes wonder if I am either watching the same show as the rest of you or I just have horribly low standards. Then again, I am more into mindless entertainment than something that makes me think harder then when I am at work. I think this show is entertaining and I thought last night's episode was good fun....exception being the loss of Penny, though...

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We kept wondering why noone recognized Cromartie at the piers, since his face had been plastered all over the TV in news stories about the DVD and the slaughter at the motel.

And I guess John and Cameron just gave up that big TV and computer equipment. They just left the stuff in the bed of the truck! No way it was gonna last more that 15 minutes unattended!

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The no-swimming thing was funny but another of those things that didn't strike true (like TNG's Data not being able to use contractions). These machines are adaptive. We really have to suspend disbelief that they can't propel themselves through the water.

But I enjoyed this episode. I like the Terminator planning. Much more interesting than when it's chasing.

And what's Garbage up to with the FBI dude? Did I get it right: she wants him to find another Terminator? She can't reverse engineer an earlier model? She can't place an ad in the paper saying "Hey, I'm John Connor, meet me at ..." and then wait to see who turns up?

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My reasoning for this is that they weigh hundreds and hundreds of pounds and don't have any natural buoyancy like an actual person would have, so they just sink right to the bottom, now matter what they do.

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Yeah, Terminators are heavy - metal frames and probably densely packed in there as well.

Eh, we don't know what she wants or has right now. She mentioned a brother that founded the company with her this week, for instance. We can assume that she's posing as some human who had a brother, but to be quite honest, she doesn't strike me as being the same sort of completely programmed drone as Cromartie or T2's T-1000; I suspect she's management at least, but I don't know if it's yet safe to assume she cares one bit about John Connor (or doesn't feel that the Connors are necessary challenges for Skynet to evolve to her level of intelligence).

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So why in the hell do terminators even bother to carry guns? He can't hit John in a classroom and he cant hit john 30 feet away on a pier? These things shoot worse than Stormtroopers!

And for being a hard boiled resistance fighter, Sarah is dumb as six sacks of hammers. Hey, lets use the most unsecure method of communication imaginable when talking to the MacGuffin from inside the enemy lair.

Or whathisface. "Hey, there's a wire going from this phone to that big package on the tower ouside! I wonder what it does?" He didnt think that perhaps he might want to - oh, I dont know, discconnect that? But then I'm not a trained, hard boiled resistance fighter born and raised in a war torn civilization, so what do I know.

Christ this thing annoys me.

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They took great pains to show that he never had John. He was too far away and only got a hold of the coat.



To each his own, but I liked this ep much more.

Anyway, I was wondering last night--maybe it's been too long since I've seen the T movies (and I've only seen the first two), but why exactly is it that big a deal if John lives or dies? It's not like his survival prevents the rise of Skynet. He just basically keeps a bunch of ragtag people fighting an impossible battle. Surely he's not the only guy who could survive a holocaust and say, "Hey, let's hide and fight back when we can." If we knew that John not only keeps some survivors alive but eventually defeats Skynet and lets humanity flourish again, it would be one thing. We don't know his fate beyond "leader of the opposition," do we?

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I thought it absurd that it took him so long to figure out it was a bomb! If your from a future where you encounter explosions and explosives on a daily basis and you see something that resembles a bomb, and your also in a location where a terminator was recently at, it probably is a bomb and you should haul ass!

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I thought perhaps once he touched down on the bottom, he'd bend his knees and then launch himself upwards at him. Makes sense that the T-800s (or T-888 I guess is his version) are too heavy to swim.

Cameron on the other hand likely could, barely -- she has some sort of digestive system, unlike the T-800s, so she's probably a little bit more buoyant. She probably weights a couple hundred pounds, maybe 300 at most. (John needs to bear this in mind when they get it on.)

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Fair to say that we do not actually know why John Connor was so important that the original Arnie was sent back to kill him.

I suppose, one might argue that John Connor not only is a good leader, but he is also able to immediately convey to everyone what they're up against, the moment after Judgement Day happens.

But it may be that John's discovery of the time portal is what made him special. We've seen in the show that John takes over the time portal facility. But we do not know if the Arnie model was sent before he took it over, or some time after when he has perhaps lost it again. (I know, Reese said it was destroyed in T1, but, how would he know).

The writers of the show should really be coming up with mythology for this...

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Hammer and Tony, bear in mind that neither Sarah or Reese know much about cell phones. They haven't had an opportunity to watch tv shows where phones activate bombs. So they are pretty stupid when it comes to cell phones. That said, an editor could have made the cell phone tower situation more believable -- by having Reese only notice the phone once it started ringing, rather than a full minute earlier.

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So, John is important because he keeps the door to the past open. There's always the hope that the whole thing can be erased. That makes more sense than just "stay alive to fight."

From watching TV, it's reasonable to believe that simply disconnecting the cell would not be possible. That usually triggers the explosion.

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Yeah, that makes sense.

Skynet's war against the humans is going on too long, so they build a time machine to get an advantage, in the form of sending back Terminators to stockpile materials, etc.

The advantage is undermined when some dude named John Connor, quite surprisingly to Skynet, takes over the time machine facility and starts sending humans back.

Skynet then decides to send back an Arnie model to kill John Connor, the intention being to prevent him from taking over the time machine facility.

But all this accomplishes is that John becomes aware of the time machine facility, thus ensuring that he will try to take it over later -- if he lives. So his life then becomes very very important.

(Skynet could of course send back a smarter terminator to tell itself not to build the time machine in the first place...oh no I've gone crosseyed.)

Aside from that last bit, it makes some kind of sense.

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Yes however Reese is a soldier who must have some knowledge of explosives, either way the way I saw it cell + strange wire going to a pole outside + presance of a terminator + it's desire to kill us = KABOOOM!!!

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It was real Hammer, Busy Phillips gave birth to a daughter, Birdie Leigh Silverstein, on August 13, 2008.

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"Say, isn't that the actor that died in that shootout?"

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Has anyone stopped to ponder how strange the existance of this show is with the release of Terminator: Salvation coming next summer?

It's just strikes me as really weird that this show will still be in production when a film that tells the outcome of all this is playing in theaters at the same time.

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I have always thought, since the first film, that when Arnold was sent back he had a secondary agenda. Skynet had to know the possibility of killing Sarah Connor may not be fully successful. So something we were not aware of had to happen to keep a ripple in time. I believe it goes beyond the chip/arm thing too. It's the only thing that makes sense. Maybe the writers of the series could explore such an angle. I would love to know why, no matter how much is done to prevent it, judgement day still comes. We focus so much on John Connor I wonder at times if it's a slight of hand by Skynet. Sure he's important, but, is he all that's important?

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Don't worry, it won't be. The ratings are abysmal and the writing is pretty much on the wall that TSCC will be canceled after its second season.

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Somewhere earlier in the thread, someone said the producers have explained this show as an alternate time line, so the new movie can only explain what happened in that time line. So even if the series continues, there shouldn't be a conflict. However, I'm not sure the masses will get the distinction.

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As others have said, the show could very well be gone by next spring. In fact, it is already not on Fox's early midseason schedule, Joss Whedon's "Dollhouse" is getting it's time slot starting in January. It was only given a 13 episode order for the second season. However, I've seen some quotes several months back from Fox's Kevin Rielly about the movie, and the potential marketing aspects, if they extend the show and have it on the schedule when the film comes out. He said he had already discussed some options with McG, not for crossovers in the story, just from the marketing side of things.

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No stranger than Marvel currently publishing at least five separate and contradictory Spider-Man series, Superman Returns coming out while Smallville and Justice League were still running, etc.

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Fine. Then why didnt Reese start yelling "stop talking! It's being tapped!" or something the second he heard Sarah's voice? Oh, and what the hell was he doing using a grenade launcher to clear the house? If he had actually used it on the terminator in one of those rooms the explosion probably would have killed Reese too.

And I wonder if dude's wife's last words were "you're right, maybe I shouldn't have tried to walk. . . "

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The ratings are good as far as the demographics go. Websites like SyFy portal love to drumbeat for show cancellations by emphasizing the raw numbers at the expense of demographics. Terminator will never draw the same audience that prefers Dancing With the Stars.

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In the current issue of Entertainment Weekly they have a blurb about TSCC and how bad the ratings are. They too say the show's producers are preparing for cancellation if nothing changes drastically and only have 13 episodes to work with with no more ordered or likely to be ordered.

The show it seems is on it's way out almost for sure unless there is a BIG ratings jump.

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Well, don't forget that Baseball playoff games will be littering the Fox schedule in October, so that can't be good for audience retention for struggling shows, like this one.

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Yeah they have to move this show off of Mondays if they want it to get better ratings.