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Bones, season 4

post #1 of 187
9/3/08 at 10:21am
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Don't forget, season 4 starts tonight with a 2-hour premier!

Bones and Booth go to the U.K. to give seminars and are asked to help with an ongoing case.

Also, Bierbaum shows up.
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post #2 of 187
9/3/08 at 10:42am

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Wow, an early start to the season. Cool.

Thanks for the heads up.
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post #3 of 187
9/3/08 at 12:05pm

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The first 4 episodes of the season (2 being tonight's premiere) will be on the season 3 DVD release when it hits shelves in November.
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post #4 of 187
9/4/08 at 6:19am

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The season premiere was ok, but it wasn't a home run for me.

It really seemed like 2 separate episodes that happened to involve the same people.

Having been a "yank" in England for nearly 3 years of my life, I did get a kick out of the jokes. I also really like the way Booth was acting while interviewing the "Duke" inside the family estate. Got to love the completely contrasting lifestyles.

I also like the way that Booth took the headbutt and didn't even flinch. It was pretty funny. Although, technically, they should have had the yob arrested for assaulting him.

The only real problem I had with the episode was the way in which they showed that Booth could not drive "on the wrong side". I can see it was supposed to be funny, but it was just way too slapstick.

All in all, I give the opener a B-.

I wonder if they are going to handle replacing Zach like the way they did it on House? A different character every few episodes?
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post #5 of 187
9/4/08 at 8:10am

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This episode reminded me of the Fox cancelled series, Keen Eddie.
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post #6 of 187
9/4/08 at 8:33am

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Originally Posted by Scott S
I also like the way that Booth took the headbutt and didn't even flinch. It was pretty funny.
Yeah, I dug that. Won't that scene get cut when the show actually airs in the UK, though? I thought headbutts got cut all the time there.

And it was two separate episodes, just without credits in between. The "Part I written by/Part II written by" is a dead giveaway.
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post #7 of 187
9/4/08 at 12:10pm

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Can't believe they hit the reset button on Angela and Hodges' relationship. Ugh.
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post #8 of 187
9/4/08 at 1:28pm

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I don't think it's a reset button as much as the inevitable TV-relationship sub-arc where the pair breaks up because the other person not being perfect is just a complete shock. Inevitably, one will be threatened this year and they will realize that they really, really do still want to be together.
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post #9 of 187
9/5/08 at 11:19am
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Originally Posted by Jason Seaver
I don't think it's a reset button as much as the inevitable TV-relationship sub-arc where the pair breaks up because the other person not being perfect is just a complete shock. Inevitably, one will be threatened this year and they will realize that they really, really do still want to be together.

I second Patrick's "Ugh". There's no real need for it - there's so much to explore contrasting Angela/Hodgins being married and Bones/Booth not. Not to mention them starting a family.

Also, double ugh on Sweets. While he, at times, last season provided some humor, it really seemed like they had to shoehorn him into the episode. There was no reason for him to be there when Grayson first showed up. I would prefer him to be a reoccurring character, but not a main - Booth is better when he's the one figuring out the human element, like Brennan is with the science.

It'll be interesting to see how they handle the assistant position. Zach's presence will be missed for awhile, in my opinion.

Overall I thought the double episode was good and hope that they somehow work the English inspector into an episode later on - perhaps attempting to climb Everest again!
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post #10 of 187
9/5/08 at 4:47pm

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The head-butt was great. I also liked seeing Michael Brandon as the American tycoon. Some of us remember him from Dempsey and Makepeace, an 80s British series about an American cop transplanted to the U.K. involved in a will-they-or-won't-they partnership with a gorgeous London detective. (Brandon's wife Glynis Barber.) It was a pity they couldn't find a role for her in the show. I haven't seen her in years, but back in the day she was a major babe.

Over-all I thought the episode was a bit uneven, and also found the Angela-Hodgens thing to be annoying and unnecessary. Ditto making Sweets a regular. As for Zach's replacement - can anyone say "Murphy Brown's secretary"?

Regards,

Joe
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post #11 of 187
9/6/08 at 5:38am

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Originally Posted by Patrick Sun
Can't believe they hit the reset button on Angela and Hodges' relationship. Ugh.
With the umpteen billionth "OMG!!! There's chinks in our armor of trust. . . Bye!" storyline.
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post #12 of 187
9/8/08 at 6:17pm

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I don't usually chime in too much on these season threads, but I just wanted to say that it's incredibly bothersome to keep seeing the name "Zach" when the proper name is "Zack", and yes I'm aware that it's a silly nitpick, but I'm very picky with the spelling of people's names, real or fictitious.
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post #13 of 187
9/9/08 at 10:07am
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I don't usually chime in too much on these season threads, but I just wanted to say that it's incredibly bothersome to keep seeing the name "Zach" when the proper name is "Zack", and yes I'm aware that it's a silly nitpick, but I'm very picky with the spelling of people's names, real or fictitious.

It's short for Zachary. Zach would seem to be the correct spelling. Now, if his name was Zackary.......
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post #14 of 187
9/9/08 at 1:24pm

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i read that they shot this last year, so hopefully the next episode will be the new batch =D.

PS has season3 DVD come out? did that set include the unaired schooling shooting episodie?
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post #15 of 187
9/9/08 at 1:59pm

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i read that they shot this last year, so hopefully the next episode will be the new batch =D.

PS has season3 DVD come out? did that set include the unaired schooling shooting episodie?

Season 3 comes out in November I think.

The "school shooting" epside (which was really about the murder of a basketball player) was aired after the strike this year.
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post #16 of 187
9/11/08 at 10:27am
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So far it looks like Joseph was right - revolving assistants. While that might provide a few, cheap, laughs, I don't think it adds to the show.

Also, they continue to shoehorn in Sweets. It made sense for him to be around later in the episode, but why have him, in a Hasmat suit, during the discovery phase?

The Brennan-juggling two men subplot, however, was great!
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post #17 of 187
9/11/08 at 12:36pm

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Not only will the season 3 DVD set have the altered-for-continuity version of "Player Under Pressure", it will include the original version of the episode as well.
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post #18 of 187
9/12/08 at 6:36am

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So far it looks like Joseph was right - revolving assistants. While that might provide a few, cheap, laughs, I don't think it adds to the show.

Also, they continue to shoehorn in Sweets. It made sense for him to be around later in the episode, but why have him, in a Hazmat suit, during the discovery phase?
I did like that Sweets connected with this episode's assistant. So, maybe she will reappear at some point. Sweets appearing in a Hazmat suit was entirely unnecessary and distracting. I thought he had a real job in addition to counseling Booth and Brennan.

Neil
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post #19 of 187
9/12/08 at 8:33am

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Originally Posted by KevinGress
Also, they continue to shoehorn in Sweets. It made sense for him to be around later in the episode, but why have him, in a Hasmat suit, during the discovery phase?
I was thinking the very same thing when I saw him in that scene. Is anyone else having problems with thinking of him as anything but the geeky teen in Freaks and Geeks?
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post #20 of 187
9/12/08 at 2:52pm

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I think of him more from his rather spineless role on "Kitchen Confidential".
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post #21 of 187
9/12/08 at 3:32pm

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Nitpick: It's "hazmat", as in "hazardous materials", not "hasmat".

Joe
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post #22 of 187
9/13/08 at 5:12pm

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The whole bit about her juggling two guys was classic material. Actually, the scene at the end where they were with Sweets was also very good.

This is a show that I think has some of the best chemistry out there, which is why the rotating assistant bit is really annoying. I would be OK if they picked someone and stuck with it, and let it go.

Really, the chemistry between Zach & the staff was so damn good, it's hard to come up with a replacement that fits that role nearly as well. That is a problem, but they shouldn't avoid it through fill ins but just make something stick and have the dynamic not between "Zach's replacement" and Hodges... maybe a better way is someone who becomes full time who works to develop a relationship with Angela... or something.

But, as always, the show has been fun, which is all I can ask
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post #23 of 187
9/15/08 at 10:15am
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Originally Posted by Joseph DeMartino
Nitpick: It's "hazmat", as in "hazardous materials", not "hasmat".

Joe

My bad; I'm sorry!
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post #24 of 187
9/15/08 at 4:47pm

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I think of him more from his rather spineless role on "Kitchen Confidential".

I still remember when he was hung out a window upside down in his underwear on "Boston Public".

At least I think he was in his underwear.

Either way, I'm glad he's on this show. I like him and find him to be a nice addition, regardless of his usefulness.
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post #25 of 187
9/15/08 at 7:56pm

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The Shoehorning of the Sweets is the least of this series realism issues. I like him a lot.

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post #26 of 187
9/17/08 at 6:09pm

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Sigh, I had a REAL tough time getting through tonights episode. Those responsible for dog fighting are why things like The Rack were invented.

They are scum and the only thing that kept me going in this ep was to see Bones and Booth bust these son of a bitches!
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post #27 of 187
9/17/08 at 7:51pm

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This was a real hard episode to watch.

I did actually like the temp guy this episode. Too bad he is just another prop.
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post #28 of 187
9/17/08 at 9:44pm

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I found the ending coda cringeworthy in their attempts to humanize Bones.
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post #29 of 187
9/18/08 at 5:49am

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I found the ending coda cringeworthy in their attempts to humanize Bones.

You didn't like that, Pat? I thought it was nice that we saw this new facet of her personality, who knew she was such a dog lover?

BTW, Angela and Hodgins are being ridiculous with this whole thing.
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post #30 of 187
9/18/08 at 9:06am

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They did a dog fighting episode of CSI just last season. The writers of that episode won some sort of animal/humane society/something-or-other award for it.
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