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I could be totally off here but the way I remember it was that at the end of Season 1, it looked like Parkman and his wife had forgiven each other about the affair, and may be able to resolve everything and get back together, and then when Season 2 starts 4 months later in the time-line, we find out that they are divorced, because Parkman found out that the baby wasn't his.

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Did anyone think the babysitter girl looked like an older Molly with dark hair?

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The last we saw of Parkman in season one was when he got put into an ambulance after having been shot. We never saw him reunite with his wife.

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i didn't think monday's ep was any better than any of the season4 eps so far. certainly not as good as s1 episodes.

while things happened very fast in s1, it did so logically. s2 was a bit faster... but still manageable. s3 went berserk in the first half and even right now there is no signs of slowing down. i think the pace is way2fast. if only they slowed it down and gave us some clear signs of plot/character and where they intend to take us. just like many comic books, this one is it getting too crowded for its own good.

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Season two opened four months after the end of season one, with Matt having abandoned his wife because he discovered the baby wasn't his. However in a later episode in season two, she confronted him in prison and he discovered the baby in fact was his. What I'm a little foggy about is whether that prison scene took place in reality or in Papa Parkman's mindgame prison.

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The latter. But that doesn't necessarily mean that what was said was untrue.

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I too liked this episode. But I have to say that the previews for the next episode have me even more excited. I think things will get cranked up a notch or two as compared to what we've already seen this season.

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This seemed to be a big transition episode...Got rid of a few characters and changed the nature of some...Hiro like Peter getting powered down and getting "some" of his powers back. Nikki becoming some kind of full blown ice lady. Killing off speed girl (again). And putting Mama Petrelli on the run.

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Is Tracy alive? That icy eye blink was spooky.

Micah looks so much older in the face, even if he's still sort of short.

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This was the first Bryan Fuller teleplay since the first season. Plotwise, it was very utilitarian, but I love the dialogue he comes up with for this show; every line has a double meaning to it.

My favorite moment was Tracy's twin realization that the savior they'd all been counting on is a 13-year-old boy and she'd led the most evil men in the country straight to her "son" (genetically speaking, at least.)

While Micah being Rebel was the obvious choice (confirmed in the opening credits and which pretty much everyone saw coming), it helped that he was written much smarter than he was previously. I could buy that this kid evaded the feds and survived on his own thus far, as he even had an eventuality for the government trailing Tracy.

My favorite storyline was Matt and Daphne's though. It gave them some badly needed resolution without adding her to the long list of conveniently ressurrected on this show. It's fitting that in a show about such extraordinary people, at least one of them would die of something as mundane as infection. Knowing he couldn't save her, he gave her something wonderful. I think we were meant to infer that she sacrificed herself to save Micah. Even if her body is immune to her own freeze, I don't think she could have survived the Hunter's gunshot that shattered her. The deeper voice was the first thing I noticed. He's not a cute kid any more, but that helps sell that the character could have orchestrated all of this.

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I actually hated the Matt and Daphne thing after he got her to the hospital. As soon as he showed up in Paris it was pretty obvious what was happening, and the "A Whole New World"-esque flying sequence was just really dumb. I can appreciate he wanted to give her happy thoughts as she was dying, but they should've made that much shorter.

But, I agree totally about Tracy. It was my impression that she stayed alive during the freezing, and then the gunshot/ shattering killed her.

I know I've been a pretty harsh critic of Volume 4, but these last couple episodes have been a huge leap upwards in terms of quality, as has been stayed many times before.

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I'm a little lost.
Didn't the last new episode (a couple of weeks ago) end with Sylar at the cliche mercenary guy's apartment.
At the start of the show, no Sylar (or the rest of the show) and you see Puppet Master hanging around.
What is this plot line?
Sylar is helping him out?
Who caught the Puppet Master?
Oh, and Parkman's wife looks fantastic since Season 1. I would drop the speedster in 2 seconds and go back to her.

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Yes.


This episode did not pick up immediately after the last one. Time passed. Clearly Sylar did not make contact with the mercenary last time, he was just on a recon mission.



Yes and no. At least not openly.



Obviously Sylar. He wants to make a deal with the Hunters. But he can't just show up with his resume and a smile. If he does that they'll attack him and the he either kills a bunch of them and goes on the run, or one of them gets in a lucky shot to the brain-stem and he's toast. He needs to gradually work his way into the head Hunter's good graces, offer him an off-the-books deal to help round up the rest of the mutants in exchange for personal immunity. (And the added bonus of absorbing their powers, of course.) The Puppet Master is a kind of down payment (or free sample, if you will.) The first one's free, after that it's gonna cost you. Sylar is showing his value (and his ability to breach the guy's security at will) before stepping out of the shadows and offering an alliance.


Yeah. Daphne's cute, but Parkman's ex was looking especially good last night.

I'm not so sure about that Tracy eye-blink. That might have been a coincidental side-effect of her thawing out, in which case she's dead. Or she might have the power to pull off a T-1000 and piece herself back together before she thaws out completely. I wouldn't bet against that on this show.


I thought it was more "Can You Read My Mind?"

Regards,

Joe

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Well, if that is the case, it is a huge cheat.
They go from the head hunter seeing the rabbit, and Sylar hiding in the same room as him hiding, to the head hunter walking in and seeing Puppet Master hanging with a note.
Seems like they pressed the reset button and changed their minds.
Kind of like an alternate ending on a DVD.

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Keep in mind that the show has done a Lost-esque "36 hours earlier"-type flashback this season. I'm wondering if we will see the interceding scenes in a later episode to find out exactly what happened between Sylar and the Hunter.

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I rather enjoyed all the references to films and of course Hiro's quoting Star Trek lines and a possible transporter accident to cause Parkman's baby to be little Parkman! The Superman and Terminator references were great.

I actually hope Tracy isn't dead yet. We'll see, they may have scooped up her pieces into a bucket and we'll see later she's not dead yet. I know the entertainment rags were saying either she or the cheerleader wanted to quit.

Great to see Hiro's powers somewhat back.

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How is that a "cheat" (much less a "huge" one) and where do you see a "reset button"? The two scenes you described are different scenes that took place at different times. The Hunter finds a rabbit. He knows that someone has been in his place. We see Sylar and know that he's up to something. Presumably Sylar then leaves undetected.

At some later date the Hunter is shaving. His alarm system goes off warning him the front door is open. (Notice that last time there was no alarm and no sign of the intruder. Whoever left the "gift" this time wants the Hunter to come out and find it.) He comes out and finds the Puppetmaster, gift-wrapped, complete with bow. Now the Hunter knows that his mystery guest is a) capable of capturing a mutant and b) willing to give him one.

It isn't like the Hunter found the rabbit and saw Sylar and in the next episode he makes the same entrance only this time he finds the Puppetmaster and no Sylar.

They are two scenes building on one another. Nary a reset button in sight.

Regards,

Joe

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this season has really pummeled this series into somn that is not watchable. =P. nothing they do can really rescue this season from itself (as a standalone season). i sure won't be buying this season on BD.

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I'm not saying that the third season is some pinnacle in TV history but it's much better than S2.

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I liked this past episode, which is different than I tolerated this past episode. So things are looking up, IMO (as much as they can after 1 good episode).

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Well, if nothing else, there IS the last of the tripletes still out there.

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And her power just might be: replicating herself.

Can I wish for more wishes?

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"That girl was our last hope."

"No. There is another."

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I think this is likely. I was surprised that it didn't resume right where it left off in this scene.

I was sad to see Daphne go. I was glad to Baby Matt Parkman got Hiro going. Moments before that happened what I thought was going to happen was that Ando was going to boost the baby's power and that would get Hiro's power started. And was that the first time we saw Ando's power to send an energy blast?

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Didn't we see Ando blast Hiro with the same power in a vision of the future in one of the earliest episodes of this season?

- Walter.

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I just got around to the online commentary. (with Masi Oka and Brian Fuller) and Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show) Fuller wrote this episode but had (uncredited) input on the previous one according to his comments.

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Sorry...Just not liking the whole head hunter (Denko?) working with Sylar plot. You just gave the most powerful character a game changing power. Thumbs down.

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Well, I'm not saying the show singlehandedly rests on Bryan Fuller's shoulder or anything but the last three episodes he's been in the room for (including the episode he scripted) have been the best three episodes since he left after season one.

The thing I liked about Sylar's storyline is the inevitability of it all; at the end of Season One, the heroes averted a doomsday future where Sylar is a shapeshifter who is taking out heroes one by one with the final goal of being the only special person left. Now, Sylar is a shapeshifter who is taking out heroes one by one with the final goal of being the only special person left. If the hunter was going to condescend to following One of Us/One of Them protocall, it makes sense that his Them would the nastiest of them all: Sylar. I loved how pissed of H.R.G. was when he saw Sylar's body with the shard in the back of his head. This new asshole's on the job for less than half a season, and he manages to do what H.R.G. couldn't do in the entire series. That being said, H.R.G. is a smart cookie (again, finally) so I doubt it will take him long to figure out he'd been scammed.

Even though the Claire/Nathan storyline didn't add anything to the overall plot, I really enjoyed it as a nice character piece. Here's Nathan, bottoming out, and Claire's along for the ride to witness it. Having already been exposed to her adoptive father's flaws and failings, it's the biological father's turn to be mortal. It was also fascinating that, as much as having Nathan being an omniprescient threat against the Heroes made her hate him, Claire she still held onto the fact that he seemed all-powerful. Discovering that he's just as scared and uncertain as the rest of them was probably a bigger blow to Claire than the original betrayal.

And finally, I think Angela's story arc is fantastic. It really gives us a glimpse into the human side of her without undermining her intelligence or power. Just as Claire's scenes with Nathan captured that quintessential moment when the child surpasses the father, Peter's scenes with Angela captured that quintessential moment when mother and child first treat each other as equals.

This show has refocused on its characters in a big, big way.