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Old myths die hard.

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considering Adam died because Dad absorbed his "primary" power, i would guess Dad absorbed Peter's primary power, which was sponging. otherwise Peter would absorb Dad's powers back? i dunno.
and it looks like Dad has to touch a person to take the power. if that's the case i wonder how Mom Petrelli ever kept her powers?

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I believe he got all of the powers. Just after he took them, you could see the blue electricity in his hands. This was the same power Peter was using moments before.

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Exactly. I thought they were about as clear as they could get about this point - they used his most recent power, AND made sure it was a flashy one, with colour!

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You guys misunderstand, I know that the father took all of the powers Peter had absorbed from others (including Elle's electricity). I'm asking if his dad also leeched his ability to absorb the powers of those around him; ie. could Peter break out, run into a new hero, and start a new collection of powers unrelated to his previous "collection"?

I'm also wondering if this period where he's been stripped of Claire's healing factor is when he'll get his iconic full-face scar.

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I think Peter lost his absorbing ability, yes, otherwise he would have absorbed all his old powers right back from dad which he clearly didn't.

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Hey, maybe Hiro will go back in time and undo it. I know how much everyone would like that.

Oh, I've been meaning to call Papa Petrelli the Big Bad. There. Done.

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I don't think the people in the cocoons are dead.

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Don't you mean the Big Dad?

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I'm finally caught up.

Up-thread, someone remarked that there was a contradiction in the way Sylar "probed" Claire's brain, vs. how he removed the brains from earlier victims. If all he had to do was "probe" them, then why weren't any brains left at the crime scenes?

I think the answer lies in the fact that when commiting mass murder, one would want to make a quick getaway, and probing apparently takes time. So it makes sense that Sylar would prefer to remove the brains, make a quick exit, and then probe the brains at his leisure at a secure location.

I'm not saying it's not a retcon, but it makes sense to me.

Also, I think Mama Petrelli's special power is being able to keep her special power.

With each episode, I'm expecting more and more that the precog will paint a picture of a Big, Red Reset Button. That's the future I see.

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That's why I'm out. It just seems as though they are spending tons of time setting us up for a reset button. They even forshadow it.. in great detail. Hiro keeps repeatedly saying things like "I can't go back to the past". In the end, Hiro will be put to the test: he will have to go back to the past to reset things, to prevent chaos. It will be his only choice.

I think they've been setting this up for a while, but it's becoming super transparent now.

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Not if Papa Petrelli has anything to do with it.

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Hey, I just thought of something. If Sylar is basically a decent fellow, but his power gives him a "hunger" that makes him evil, then why, when he didn't have any powers during Season Two, was he still a murdering bastard?

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Repeat to yourself it's just a show, I should really just relax...

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And another thing: when Sylar became President in an alternate time line in Season One, he decided to have everyone with powers executed, because he had enough powers, and he wanted to "eliminate the competition". If his "hunger" was satisfied to the extent that he didn't want more powers, then why was he still motivated to kill?

In the previous two seasons, Sylar's murderous motivation was clearly to be the most "special" person in the world, and there was no conflict within him. And now we're supposed to believe that he doesn't want to be that way?

Next thing you know, they'll be expecting us to believe that Mohinder is a monster.



Oh, right. He is.

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It's been a while since I've seen Season One, but do we know for sure that the people with powers being rounded up and executed weren't being covertly "fed" to Sylar? I'd buy that.


It takes a little, but if you go back and look at the origin of the character, it's enough for me to want to give it a try. For instance, when Sylar kills Mohinder's dad, wasn't part of the motivation revenge for being rejected? Sylar's base power either didn't manifest or didn't impress (can't remember which) the guy, who basically told Sylar off. Then, Sylar went out for his first kills, stole some abilities, awakening that hunger and setting him on his path. Initially Mohinder's dad, not knowing that Sylar killed for his new powers, is impressed by his abilities, giving Sylar that sense of validation and acceptance that he needed at the time.

Later on in the season, we see Sylar with his (adoptive) mother, and he's come home in part to show her his powers, to show that he's not a nobody... but rather than being impressed, she's frightened, and again Sylar is given a painful rejection.

In this new season, one of the first things that happens when Sylar is captured by the Company is that Angela Patrelli "feeds" him the ability of an empath. It was a calculated move on her part to be able to manipulate him... once he was stuck with the ability to be able to feel what other people feel (as opposed to simply reading minds), he had no choice but to feel a certain conflict and guilt for his actions. Afterall, if you had wronged someone and caused them a considerable amount of physical and psychological pain, and then were forced to be able to experience those feelings whether you wanted to or not... wouldn't that have an effect? That's the catalyst for the changes in Sylar.

I think it's an interesting and worthwhile plot thread to explore whether or not someone like Sylar can be redeemed, if in essence he can give up the identity he assumed and return to being Gabriel Gray, if he can find it within himself to live that life and if the people who know what he's done can ever allow him to escape those crimes.

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By the way, if they just hit a giant "reset" button at the end of this volume, and it's definitely appeared a possibility right from the first episode, I don't object to it in principle. If it's well-executed, that's all that matters. Afterall, for me at least, it's about the journey more than the destination. I've been really enjoying this season so far but would not be up in arms to have everything put back to the way it was if that's where they go with it.

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Watch it Brian. It's questions like this that will get your head cut opened or cocooned against a wall.

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Yeah, whatever. I can take care of myself. These guys can't even get it together well enough to...

Hey, look. Someone's painted a mural on my wall. Hey, that looks like me! That's not bad! And it looks like I'm standing next to... It looks like some guy with a shovel...



*BONK*

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I think it's Angela that's inspiring him to be a decent fellow. In Season Two, he didn't have the hunger, but he did have a certain comfort level with killing. His de-powered murders only came when advantageous, much more strategic than his powered killings The hunger is for power. One way of making yourself more powerful is making the rest of the world less powerful.

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i guess the short answer is that the 'hunger' is a 3rd season creation.

yup, i think i'm going to have to start watching this show with a Smallville mindset.

i guess the next mystery is: if Pop Petrelli is so powerful, why was he in a hospital bed and near death when we first see him? i wonder when the show will answer this.

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Actually, IIRC, the "hunger" was mentioned all the way back at the beginning of season 1 when Mohinder heard Sylar's taped conversation with Chandra.

My guess would be next week.

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Oh, that's not hard. All it takes is a good lawyer to draw up the right kind of will.

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If Adam's power was constant regeneration, then that probably should not have happened. But whatever, I guess the point was to emphasize that he's in the Really Dead (unless we Really Really Need Him) category.

The irony is that Hiro stupidly released Adam, after he stupidly opened the safe. So the catch-phrase should have been, "Kill Hiro, save the world!"

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His power was *stolen,* as in removed from him, leaving Adam powerless.

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I think that's why there will be a big leap into the past to reset all of this and prevent any of it from happening. Hiro will fix his own mess.

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if Pop Petrelli is indeed a bad guy, then he now has the power to time travel and that's pretty powerful.

i guess Sylar was wrong when he said Claire (and himself) could not be killed... he didn't know about his dad.

with regards to Adam turning to dust when he lost his power, does that mean the same thing would have happened if he'd gone close to the Haitian? i guess we'll never know. i think the Haitian will play a very big part in the end of the series. no matter how powerful you are, you're only human when he's around.

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Didn't momma Patreli have Hiro get Adam back? So it's not all his fault(though his screw up with the formula made mamma Patreli have him get Adam).