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Can someone refresh my memory? What happened to Elle? I seem to have forgotten.


Mrs. Petrelli fired her after her father was killed and all Level 5 detainees escaped.

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post #362 of 1128
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Because she couldn't stop the villains' breakout, she was fired by Angela. Nothing further is known.
post #363 of 1128

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Yep, E got canned in one of those showdowns where she forgot it was all Queen A's turf.

XOXO.
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On Ando, here is one possibility. They said Parkman can make people see what he wants. Maybe Parkman was now with Hiro and Ando and made the other 2 see Hiro stab Ando.

FINALLY !!!!
Someone on the show mentioned destroying the formula. Adam said he "told them" to destroy it. Of course, I would still like to find out why they chose not to.

This has really been bugging me. See I think Hiro would have said, "dis formula is too dangewous to safeguard, so it mus be destwoyed".

Re: Ando- that's one possibility. I'd be more inclined to think that he simply stopped time and did some sort of trickery to make it look like he stabbed Ando. The problem with that theory was that speed-girl (sorry, can't remember her name) was standing right there. But I'd argue that speed-girl needs to be in the process of using her power when Hiro stops time for her to not be affected. But, we'll see.

As, as far as the keeping the formula around, I liked the answer a previous poster gave - they kept both formulas - the one from season 2 (virus to kill powers) and this one (virus to give powers) in order to keep everything in balance. It's a matter of power and control.
post #365 of 1128

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have you guys seen the trailer to PUSH? it reminds me of a show but i say which one...

Apple - Movie Trailers - Push

post #366 of 1128

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i hope they develop someway for taking the time travelling power away. like a neo-Haitian who can permanently take away powers.

called it back in post #243 kinda.

anyways, Claire going after the puppet master, giving him a chance to act was beyond stupid. she did actually read his profile right? did anyone NOT know the scene was going to end with Claire getting shot? but even worse, she refuses to call her dad and would rather put her mom's life in danger. Rationalizers: do your best.

i guess the whole bloodline-for-powers thing is becoming clear. that Peter and Sylar both have variations of their dad's power, and Parkman having powers similar to his dad is cool.
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I'm totally out. I watched this week live rather then watch later, and all I have to say is: goodbye Heroes.

I sat through Season 2 and thought "hmm." But Season 3 seems to be badly regurgitating ideas from Season 1, enough so that even the characters have to point it out (Hiro with the next "future painter" / "Pre-Cog")

The show is now a mess of plotlines, destroyed characters and where the hell are "normal" people in all of this? The whole concept originally was a somewhat X-Men, attempt to stay hidden. Now we have nothing but tons of super powered villains and heroes running around everywhere.

Season 2 was tedious at times, but the moment Sark got his powered drained struck me as the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. If the dad is a "sponge" then too many plot twists from the last two seasons are basically impossible.

Besides which, they kill off one of the few actors who can actually play his role and keep it interesting.

So, goodbye Heroes. I'll wait to see if someone else sticks it out, I'll wipe from my DVR and maybe catchup at the end of the year.
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Matt, don't take this the wrong way but I hope others follow your lead.
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I was critical of the first two episodes of the season, but the last couple have been pretty strong. I'm glad they are bringing in honest-to-goodness villains like Doyle. That's what the show has been missing the whole time.

I couldn't stand Brea on Friday Night Lights and groaned when I saw they were adding her to Heroes, but she's won me over tonight (actually, the future episode did that). She was the linchpin of tonight's episode and she carried it off with ease. Kristen Bell was a big disappointment last season, but Brea is fitting in nicely. I still think she's got the most damaged-looking hair of any actress I've seen, though.

Hiro and Ando are pretty dumb, though. The guy can see the future. It doesn't matter if you use your powers or not. He's going to know. He should especially know if you *don't* use your powers. I mean, you could freeze time and look everywhere for the guy, and he's defeated. Hiding and waiting? That just can't work.
post #370 of 1128

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I actually made it through last night's episode without too much trouble.
I still think I am seeing x character has to have y amount of screen time.

Did we really need any of that puppet master nonsense? What happens next week, Claire sneaks another file from Daddy and hijinks ensue?

I also have learned to stop trying to ask questions like why is Hiro and Ando getting the pre-cog guy (I thought the villians were going) and why is Ali Larter and Flyboy going to see Mohinder.

Mohinder... has there ever been a character on a series that has lost its Mojo this fast? He was one of the most interesting ones on the show now he is a cartoon character.

And of course, the biggie, what exactly does Max Cherry want? Financial gain, world destruction or world domination?
post #371 of 1128

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I...Did we really need any of that puppet master nonsense? What happens next week, Claire sneaks another file from Daddy and hijinks ensue?...
Yes, because it is episodic TV, and you will never keep a casual viewer interested if there is not a part of the episode that dramatically resolves itself. I thought it was predictable but well played. It also underlined that while Claire does not trust her father and his cold-blooded methods, she needs him.
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I also have learned to stop trying to ask questions like why is Hiro and Ando getting the pre-cog guy (I thought the villians were going)
I am not sure I understand the question as you phrased it, but the Papa Petrelli group is trying to take out all precogs while the Mama Petrelli group is trying to get to them first. The real unanswerable question was asked by the earlier poster, which was: why did Hiro not just nab the guy while time was stopped?
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... and why is Ali Larter and Flyboy going to see Mohinder.
They just found out that they were lab rats, she wanted to get rid of her powers, and Nathan consulted the best geneticist on the subject he knew who was not in the back pocket of his mother's organization.
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Mohinder... has there ever been a character on a series that has lost its Mojo this fast? He was one of the most interesting ones on the show now he is a cartoon character.
No, there has not. His character should be tragic, but they rushed into it without dramatically earning our sympathy. They then proceeded to make it worse by being protractedly vague about his condition
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...And of course, the biggie, what exactly does Max Cherry want? Financial gain, world destruction or world domination?
I'm guessing one or more of those coupled with revenge for something or other, but that is just uninformed speculation. I hope his absorption of Peter's powers comes with the Sylar "hunger" as well. It would be more fun to see him wrestling with that than just being a bad ass.

Regards,
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Ken,
Thanks.
That actually helps out a lot.
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So Robert Foster doesn't only absorb powers, he can actually remove them. Damn, what a lethal combination.

And here we thought Adam was indestructible. Can this be the last we've seen of him or will his "dust" regroup later on?
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Well, I gave up on watching Heroes on Mondays. Not compelling enough for me to give up the extra hour to see it. May catch up with it online, while I'm working on other things.
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His dust will be made into a paste and packaged as Ouch be Gone.
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I laughed out loud when Hiro got konked on the head. The second wasn't as funny, but I liked his expression when he saw the painting. Quite goofy and sad that his character has become a joke. Same with Mohinder. Sorry to see Adam go, that wasn't too surprising, but still unfortunate. So is Peter's path fixed now, no future evil Peter?

The the goal of the Heroes and Villians does lack a certain clarity the first season had, or should I say they're not as black and white, more gray. I'm still interested to watch, but I can understand why some have lost interest.
post #377 of 1128

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And here we thought Adam was indestructible.

He was. Until someone took away his power of indestructability.

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Can this be the last we've seen of him or will his "dust" regroup later on?

He has not power, so I don't see how he could regroup. He's a normal 1000 year old man. Dust.
post #378 of 1128

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I'm happy to see I was wrong about Hiro's fake-stabbing of Ando was somehow going to continue to drive them apart. That was getting old.

Peter lost all his powers... Didn't see that one coming. But at least he should be rid of his "hunger" now. I guess with Mohinder going Brundlefly, they had to make someone else a "regular" human.
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Yes, because it is episodic TV, and you will never keep a casual viewer interested if there is not a part of the episode that dramatically resolves itself. I thought it was predictable but well played. It also underlined that while Claire does not trust her father and his cold-blooded methods, she needs him.

I get the concept that they have to have some episodic elements to keep the fans involved. But as far as that goes, this was basically bad episodic filler - it was very reliant on the events that led to it, and it provided the audience almost nothing in the way of any information about any of the characters or the main story. It seemed to be one of those tangents where you just went "Ok, time to make a sandwich". The moment they started the Russian roulette, all the danger in the room left, because everyone who knew anything about the show knew exactly how it would end. Very lazy, I thought.

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I am not sure I understand the question as you phrased it, but the Papa Petrelli group is trying to take out all precogs while the Mama Petrelli group is trying to get to them first. The real unanswerable question was asked by the earlier poster, which was: why did Hiro not just nab the guy while time was stopped?

The writers forgot? I'm not sure Mamma Petrelli is trying to nab the pre-cogs either. We've just seen her going about locking people up.. this was the first real mention of going after pre-cogs.

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No, there has not. His character should be tragic, but they rushed into it without dramatically earning our sympathy. They then proceeded to make it worse by being protractedly vague about his condition

Yep. You should feel sympathetic for him; he made a tragic mistake and he can't get out of it.. but instead it's so rushed you just almost feel like "well, whatever, he's a monster now, needs to be put down.. rabid and all"

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I'm guessing one or more of those coupled with revenge for something or other, but that is just uninformed speculation. I hope his absorption of Peter's powers comes with the Sylar "hunger" as well. It would be more fun to see him wrestling with that than just being a bad ass.

Yep. I'm of a split mind. Either Future Peter was wicked, and always knew this was the likely possibility.. so feeding Papa Petrelli Sylar's power would be the best way to potentially defeat him.. or future Peter is the ultimate dumbass who now doesn't exist because the time line has been so significantly changed his reality winked long out of existance.
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My Cable DVR got bumped or something last night when I was messing around behind the AV equipment and so the last episode didn't get taped. Does NBC repeat them at all later in the week?
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It's going to be interesting to see how Peter gets his powers back.
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My Cable DVR got bumped or something last night when I was messing around behind the AV equipment and so the last episode didn't get taped. Does NBC repeat them at all later in the week?
It reruns on G4 tonight and (I think) on Mojo in HD at some point during the week.
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I'll check it out. I never even heard of Mojo though, no idea if I get it. Do get G4 though. I have Comcast in the SF Bay Area. Thanks.
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You can watch it on NBC.com in their "HiDef".
At least they advertise it during the show.
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Sorry if this has already been brought up but I was wondering about something. Peter and Nathan lived with their biological mother. But Sylar, he lived with someone else. Is it possible that their mother (Angela) purposely hid Sylar? Maybe from his real dad? Or am I way off on this? It's just to "Star Warsy" for me if I'm correct.
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Sorry if this has already been brought up but I was wondering about something. Peter and Nathan lived with their biological mother. But Sylar, he lived with someone else. Is it possible that their mother (Angela) purposely hid Sylar? Maybe from his real dad? Or am I way off on this? It's just to "Star Warsy" for me if I'm correct.

It's certainly possible...they haven't given us any information one way or another about the motivations behind Sylar being put up for adoption. We also don't know (or if we do, I missed it) if the Company could tell what someone's ability would be before it manifested. Obviously they can tell whether or not someone has an ability in the first place (she mentions Nathan was born without one, so they gave him one), but they don't say if they gave Nathan the power of flight specifically, or if it was something more general and that's how it manifested. In other words, we don't know if Mama Petrelli knew that Sylar was born with a hunger that would fuel a murderous streak, or if there were other motivations. And, while we assume she was telling the truth about their lineage, there's always a chance that Sylar isn't related to them at all and she was just telling him that to manipulate him.
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It's a little early to say "Peter's a dumbass" or asking if Peter's path is fixed. It's the same as complaining about Hiro stabbing Ando, which was answered minutes into the next episode. We don't know how "powerless Peter" is going to play out, but I'm going to seriously guess that he'll get his powers back somehow.

I liked the Russian roulette scene. As I said above, this is what I wanted from a show based on a comic book. Scenes with comic book villains! It's like saying, "Geez, did they really need to show Spider-Man fighting Kraven the Hunter? Just show what's going on with JJJ." It was basically everyone against Sylar in the first two seasons. You need someone besides Norman Osborn and Lex Luthor every once in a while.

Speaking of Sylar, I know his future self reforms, if that aspect of the future holds true. I know he is trying to do better in the present, though he ate the brains of that bank robber. But, the opening VO calling him a "hero" was a bit much.

No mention of Daphne from anyone but me? Am I the only one digging her right now? Pretty damning since she was all up in this mofo.
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But, the opening VO calling him a "hero" was a bit much.


I wouldn't place too much stock in those voice-overs - they are clearly there to help those who may be confused with the plot threads (notice they popped up just as people were complaining about the plot being tough to follow). I wouldn't be surprised if they show runners have nothing to do with them.
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It's going to be interesting to see how Peter gets his powers back.
If he gets them back. Hey, people have been complaining that too many characters have powers lately...
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No mention of Daphne from anyone but me? Am I the only one digging her right now? Pretty damning since she was all up in this mofo.
She's my favorite of the new characters from season three, and I like all of the Season Three characters better than the Season Two characters. She somehow manages to be both mischevious and sweetly naive at the same time. When we meet her, she's in a position of power over Hiro. Every instance since then has robbed her of a little more control.
In contrast to Daphne, I was really happy when they actually let Maya die cocooned up on Mohinder's wall. I was less thrilled with losing Adam Monroe -- by far the most interesting of the Season Two characters, played by the best actor -- but it was worth it to a) finally close the book on the season two cast and b) show just how powerful Peter's father is.

Having Peter's father be a Leech made perfect sense in light of Peter and Sylar's abilities. That's why Nathan's power being synthetic is so important: if he's been born with the gene, he would have fit into the theme. The Patrelli patriarch robbing Peter of his powers is a blessing in disguise, really: he freed Peter of Sylar's hunger.
I also wonder how Peter's power interacts with his father's: normally his father would rob a Hero of their power. But did he rob Peter of his underlying power, or just all of the powers he'd banked up until this point? Likewise, would Sylar lose all of the powers he's stolen so far, or just his ability to decipher new abilities?

Really enjoying this show again.
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