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For the penultimate episode, it sure doesn't seem like they're heading to any big conclusion. On the plus side, I still continue to enjoy the stuff with Hiro & Ando and Sylar & Danko though.

Even at its best, I think the show has always been a soap opera. The only difference is that they have super powers rather than money.

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I gave up on the show after the first half of the season (after enduring every episode up to that time), mostly because 24 was returning and it posed a direct recording conflict, and I felt that that show deserved at least another chance.

Just checked back into the thread to see if I missed anything really great. Judging by the number of complaints about the show, it appears that nothing has really changed.

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I think it's gotten to the point now where people will complain about "Heroes" no matter what, because hey - that's just the way to talk about it these days. But really, the second half of the season is much better than the first half, IMO.

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And both volumes were better than S2 in my opinion. Once Bryan Fuller returned*, the show took a big upswing but the last two episodes haven't done much for me. I'm definitely still going to watch next year but I hope that they have a good, solid showrunner with a plan to make some corrections for the next season.

*And I was the guy saying "There's no way that one person can 'save' the show" when people were hanging their hopes on Fuller.

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Absolutely. That was 100 percent Psycho homage. (To those saying Gollum I can only point out that Peter Jackson was making a Psycho homage himself) The only thing that holds Sylar back from being God-like is that he's very, very unstable. The effect reminded me of the "echo" effect Matt Parkman experiences when he tries to read Peter's mind. It's possible that the Haitian (or someone with an equivilant skill set) is inside, and Hiro just tried harder to beat it than anyone we've seen before. Mikah's been very interesting in his few appearances so far. Although smarter than almost every other player in the game, he's damaged goods just like Sylar is. His need for a new parent figure has nearly done him in a few times now. This late in the season, it was never going to magically coalesce into streamlined, cohesive storytelling. They've made a lot of progress writing the ship, but when it comes right down to it the arc they have to work with has been a mess since the season began. Had Bryan Fuller been leading the "Fugitives" arc from the beginning, I think we'd be in much better shape right now. That being said, the "Fugitives" arc from its beginning was better than the "Villians" arc. And the "Villians" arc was better than the season two arc. Absolutely. This show has neither the budget nor inclination for major superhero battles every week. For that you have to look towards "Smallville" which lacks the ambition of "Heroes" but also the messiness of "Heroes". Agreed. They need to come up with a fantastic season finale and then work backward from there. Season One felt like it was leading to that finale the whole way. Subsequent seasons just haven't.

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I do think this season has been far better than S2(which isn't really a huge accomplishment), but sadly I'm just completely losing interest in the show altogether. I'm basically staying with it to see how the season finishes, but I honestly don't know if I'll watch next year. I really don't look forward to it anymore and when you find yourself at that point there's really no reason to continue watching.

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We finally watched it the other day. I am wondering why Ando is just using his "arc" power (where did that come from?) and not his "boost" power. Or maybe it is his unknowingly using it that has given Hiro a problem?

Sylar definitely had too many screws loose. The "that hurt" statement at the end was a surprise to Danko. Where will he go from there? I think they really need to take care of Sylar in the season finale. Of course, it could be that he'll just end up in a rubber room at the end of the finale.

Next season apparently NBC is ordering just 18-20 episodes, possibly starting in the new year? If so, I hope they really think the story through. I can't remember where the article was, but before Fuller returned apparently they were going to make Sylar's father the even bigger bad at the end of the season, but Fuller convinced them not to go that way.

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Well, traditionally, Heroes always ends its season by resolving the volume/storyline and spends the final minute setting up the next one. I doubt this year will be any different.

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Mica is a kid and lost both his parents. But it was nice to Sylar become human, if for a moment, to save him.

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What happened to Mica's grandmother (lt. uhura) and his cousin? his cousin had the rad muscle mimic power that I think would have been great to follow up on. Instead it's like they never existed exept for the fact that Mica's mom died in the fire.

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yo! finale? Series 5 looks good!

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Ugh. That whole Sylar/Nathan imprinting just left a bad taste to my mouth.

At least that tear from Tracy proved life-affirming after all (as I had suspected).

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Me too. If you believe in the idea that human beings are more than they bodily flesh and synapses, the idea of forging someone into a (nearly) identical approximation of someone else is really disturbing. The person Angela forced Matt Parkman to create has Sylar's brain and Sylar's (transformed) body but thinks he's Nathan Petrelli and indeed has the lifetime of Nathan Petrelli. But much like identical twins finding ways to differentiate themselves, Sylar-Nathan is not the same person Nathan would have been. Because Sylar's brain works differently than Nathan's, he will make different decisions than Nathan with the same appearance, resources, power and memories.

That being said (and even though we again were cheated out of a superpowered smackdown), Volume Four ended on the strongest note so far -- mainly because the endings of the previous three volumes were really lackluster. A pretty clean break for the show, with the most overpowered character effectively neutralized.

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But, he's not. They show 5 minutes of the next chapter and we see Sylar's personality breaking through.

As much as I like the character (And Quinto) of Sylar. He was just getting too powerful. And needed to be killed or "really" depowered.

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Why didn't they just use Claire's blood to re-incarnate Nathan like they did with HRG?

Funny they were channeling Star Wars as they burned Darth, I mean fake Sylar's body.

Nice to see Tracy back, I figured that too.

And I agree, it's obvious that Nathan/Sylar plan will fail.

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Soooooo, what happened to Washing DC going Boom?

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agreed with you..

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I'm almost done.
Shutting the door to the audience during the season finale fight is a David Chase move if I ever saw one.
I would think they were trying to be clever or cute but something tells me the reason is more budgetary.
Well, I will shut the door on them.
And why would Ali Larter bother with revenge on the soldiers that were just following orders?

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I skipped several episodes this season after the winter break because, well, I just lost interest. I did catch the the final three episodes in the hope that if the season ended well and there was a cool setup for next year, I'd give the show another another shot. I hate to say it, but neither one worked for me. The final chapter was lame and the prologue for next season was a real 'yawner.' I mean really, Nathan - Sylar, Sylar - Nathan, blah, blah, blah. This show has turned into a total one-trick pony! I can't believe there was a time way back in season one when I looked forward to each episode of Heroes with the same kind of anticipation I have for Lost. Talk about being stuck in a creative ditch... Sheesh!

I know we didn't see much of a setup for next season, but based on what little we saw, I'll be amazed if the program survives the season.

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Maybe because, "Dead is dead. There's no coming back from that." I thought the same thing while watching a snippet (during a commercial for "24"..., I haven't seen the whole episode yet), but then I also noticed that Sylar stood and watched as he bled out. BTW, HRG wasn't reincarnated. He had an injury and Claire's blood healed him. The suspension of disbelief is we're supposed to believe that despite being shot in the eye, he wasn't dead yet.

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He was shot through the eye! I know there have been people in real life with pretty gruesome injuries, only to walk away relatively unscathed (the dude with the massive nail through his brain, comes to mind - wow bad pun), but I think it's pretty reasonable to say the bullet through the eye was a kill shot...

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To quote the Princess Bride, I thought that maybe Nathan - "He was only mostly dead"

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I have a feeling when the time comes for the real Nathan to return, they'll pull out the oldest trick in the book to explain it...The end of Season 3 was one of Angela's dreams and didn't happen.

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Allow me to interrupt, get a quick answer, and then leave you alone.

I stopped watching this show weeks ago. It became unwatchable.

Has the show gotten any better in the past few weeks since?

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Move along...nothing to see.

Quite an unsatisfying season, to say the least.

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If you thought it was unwatchable then, I would say you're not likely to enjoy the remaining episodes anymore. Some people (myself included) were very happy with the improvement of the final episodes, but I never found the show to be "unwatchable" at any point, though it certainly lost a step or two along the way. For the people who seemed to react as strongly to this season as you have, I don't think the last few episodes really did anything to bring them back. In other words, I don't think you're going to find the ending to be "must see TV", especially if the last episodes you saw were closer to "must avoid TV". I don't mean this to be a shot at you, hope it doesn't come across that way. I just don't think you're going to find a lot to like in how it wraps up.

That said, if you have the episodes on your DVR or in some other form that allows you to take a peek without having to plan an evening around it, you might be pleasantly surprised.

At the least, I think they do a good job at the end of giving the writers a mostly blank slate from which to start from next season.

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here is what i wondered. what did nathan think the first time he tried to fly and couldn't? sylar doesnt have that power and now its gone from peter too


to me it was a reset button to season one. 'the company' has returned to be ran by hrg and he will run it like before. one of us, one of them.