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post #91 of 151

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Random thoughts:
Perfect send out for Grissom. Leaves the door wide open for a guest return since the psychopath talked about having "many students".

I was happy with the choice of L.F. and even more so after the preview of the next sho

The sniper bullet coming at the bad guy in slo-mo was one of the best visuals I have ever seen on this show, especially since I didn't expect it. I was thinking Brass was going to knock the door down first.
post #92 of 151

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I'm the OP and I've revised the first post accordingly.
Understandable, but as to the poster who prompted it, no longer necessary.
post #93 of 151

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I enjoyed this new episode with Langston coming on as CSI level 1.

He had quite a rough first shift, got his tie into the corpse, ruined his shoes and pants and shirt and spit on. And I think we got a hint as his secret, must be something related to his childhood.

And I like how they got his character to impress Hodges as a way to get on his better side or at least be able to see him as something other then Grissom's replacement. Seems a bit Grissom like how he went about recreating the bomb to prove his theory.

I guess Fishborne gets top billing as star while Marg is number 2. But Marg is the boss of the shift. And I liked Eckley's line about not making Grissom's office a shrine! Nice how they worked it out.
post #94 of 151

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The only problem I have with it is now the main character is a Jr. Member and doesn't know what he is doing half of the time instead of the expert who is the mentor. I guess we could follow his development as the other members give him a hand, but that would get rather old. I'm not sure if it was just a "lets get the new guy" moment, but I can't recall any other time that the CSI had to help lift dead bodies...
post #95 of 151

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Langston may be a novice CSI, but he's a physician and professor approaching the age of 50. He has a lot in the way of specific scientific knowledge and life experience to impart to his younger colleagues, and with his intellect and training it won't take him long to master the skills of a CSI. He'll be an expert long before his being a newbie gets "old".

Regards,

Joe
post #96 of 151

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Originally Posted by Martino
The only problem I have with it is now the main character is a Jr. Member and doesn't know what he is doing half of the time instead of the expert who is the mentor. I guess we could follow his development as the other members give him a hand, but that would get rather old. I'm not sure if it was just a "lets get the new guy" moment, but I can't recall any other time that the CSI had to help lift dead bodies...


I think that will slowly fade away. For example at the end he figured out what the cause of the explosion was. Also, this is similar to when Greg started doing field work. He was a novice. But, within a few episodes he knew what he was doing.

The biggest thing with Fishburne's character. He has all of the skills. He just doesn't have the protocol's and practical experience (ie-knowing what to put in his kit and how to dress).
post #97 of 151

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Originally Posted by todd s
The biggest thing with Fishburne's character. He has all of the skills. He just doesn't have the protocol's and practical experience (ie-knowing what to put in his kit and how to dress).

Plus his obvious issue with what appears to be abused or mistreated children as we see him cross the line with the father and CSI Riley Adams smoothes things over.

The other thing I saw that could be developing is Catherine hooking up with Dr. Langston! At least a flirtation
post #98 of 151
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His on-screen credit was interesting in that it didn't have a "Starring" preceding it, the way Petersen's name had.

All in all, it was a great introduction for Langston, and this whole new beginning was certainly worth it and things are going to be just fine without the good Doctor Grissom, though he will certainly be missed....at least good ol' fetal pig is staying firmly in place.
post #99 of 151

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I have a problem with an M.D., expert and professor taking such a low position. Why would he do that? I guess this will be a story line in the future.
post #100 of 151

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Part of his backstory was explained when they first hire Fishburne to appear on the show. I am not sure if it's still going to be used.

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Supposedly he has the abnormal gene that serial killers have. And this is supposed to be the reason he is criminology. To see what makes them tick.
post #101 of 151

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I have a problem with an M.D., expert and professor taking such a low position. Why would he do that?
I just thought that he wanted to make a difference by helping to solve crimes and seeing a different area of a topic that he's obviously interested in. Plus, I assume that's he made enough money throughout his career that he can take a pay decrease just to indulge that desire.
post #102 of 151

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Originally Posted by Robert A. Willis Jr.
I have a problem with an M.D., expert and professor taking such a low position. Why would he do that? I guess this will be a story line in the future.

They pretty much explained that in Grissom's last episode.

1) He was looking right at the killer in his classroom and didn't recognize him. That bothered him and made him question the worth of his academic studies and teaching.

2) After that experience he wants to help find these guys, not merely study them.

3) "It isn't always about the money, is it?"

Langston was a practicing physician for many years and a hospital department head after that. (I believe he was chief pathologist at the hospital where the "angel of death" he wrote about was active.) He doesn't seem to be married and I doubt he has any minor children. He's probably comfortably off financially, which is why he was able to take one huge pay cut to become a college professor. In terms of his net worth and cash flow, he probably wouldn't be giving up that much to become a CSI level 1, and he won't be a level 1 forever.

It is not unheard of for comfortable-to-wealthy men approaching mid-life to make a major career change, even if that involves starting at the bottom. I once knew a guy who made a couple of million in the dot com boom. His passion was fixing cars, but he never had the time or the expert knowledge to do it right. When the company where he was working went public he quit, cashed out his stock, enrolled in a trade school to become a certified mechanic and then hired on as an entry-level grease-monkey at an auto dealership. Different strokes and all that.

Regards,

Joe
post #103 of 151

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I was laughing pretty hard at all the unfortunate things happening to Langston, even at the very end when he was only trying to help.
post #104 of 151
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Originally Posted by todd s
Part of his backstory was explained when they first hire Fishburne to appear on the show. I am not sure if it's still going to be used.

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Supposedly he has the abnormal gene that serial killers have. And this is supposed to be the reason he is criminology. To see what makes them tick.

That has been dropped and will not be a part of the character.

The reason is because the science behind it was essentially debunked: (no need for the spoiler anymore)

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When it was first revealed that CSI would be getting a new major character, spoilers indicated that he would have a genetic predisposition to violence. Executive producer Naren Shankar said that facet of the character is no longer on the table because the information was out of date. "Very early research on the character had indicated that there was a syndrome that was sort of more prevalent in serial killers," Shankar said. "That turned out not to be the case."

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post #105 of 151

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"Also, this is similar to when Greg started doing field work. He was a novice. But, within a few episodes he knew what he was doing."

But Greg is not the main focus of the show, just one of the guys....I could not see him being the main guy.
post #106 of 151

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That has been dropped and will not be a part of the character.
Good. While that might have been an interesting angle to play, I don't know if it would have worked and it would have made him seem consistantly sinister. So if he looked at Catherine in a serious way, people would be speculating that he was planning on killing her.
post #107 of 151

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I'm glad they aren't bringing in another "mentor". I think bringing in your top-billed star as your least experienced CSI is a nice, fresh approach.
post #108 of 151
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Fish shows up and the thread starts dying!

Was no one tripped up with that faux-FBI agent episode? It was great!

Also, a grand "HELL YEAH!" for CSI: Season 1 taking a jump into the cool Blu waters...
post #109 of 151

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Originally Posted by Nicholas Martin
Fish shows up and the thread starts dying!


Well, they have been mostly reruns but the last new show did completely make up for the lack of Grissom with an excellent story and the fake FBI agents were a complete surprise. My wife is a mental health nurse who deals with these type people all the time and said that the depiction was dead on.

New episode tonight so maybe the thread will be getting more traffic very soon. So far I am more impressed with "Fish" than I thought I would be.
post #110 of 151

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I really liked tonight's episode (3/5). It was a enjoyable weaving of multiple crimes. And it was a nice touch to have the voice message from Grissom. I wonder if he actually recorded that for this episode.
post #111 of 151
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I honestly don't remember if there was another episode that mentioned Nick's birthday, which the message could have been pulled from if Petersen didn't record it for this.
post #112 of 151

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200th episode tonight!

I just caught up on this season via CBS.com. While it's sad to see Grissom's departure, I think Langston has been a nice fit to the show.
post #113 of 151

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And William Friedkin is directing this episode.
post #114 of 151
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I wish it wasn't dealing with Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Didn't care much for that element in an episode of "ANGEL" either.
Just not my thing.
post #115 of 151

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I thought the episode was fairly good, but didn't live up to the "200th episode" hype. (For that matter there was nothing about the direction that I thought set it apart very much from the average CSI episode - and what there was took the form of "look at me, I'm directing" tricks, which I loathe. Of course, I felt the same way about the last episode Friedkin directed.)

I was mildly disappointed that they didn't find a way to include Grissom in the episode. I had sort of hoped that they would have some bug-related angle that would justify getting him on the phone, or even a satellite link from a university or police agency near wherever he is in the rain forest.

But it was a good showcase for Fishburne, which is what a big episode in this season needed to be.

Regards,

Joe
post #116 of 151

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...and what there was took the form of "look at me, I'm directing" tricks, which I loathe.
I'm not a big fan of that type of thing either but I actually liked Friedkin's "flourishes" in this one. I don't want to see the show do that every episode but I liked the change of pace. I liked that this was a grittier story than usual for CSI. Plus, seeing Fishburne and Paul Guilfoyle get a good amount of screen time together was cool.
post #117 of 151

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I liked the episode as well, but like Joe said, definitely not the 200th episode hype.
post #118 of 151

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The banging drum music was just too loud and became annoying after a bit.
post #119 of 151

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4/9/09- That was one of the better sets of crimes this season. Deaths that all occurred and connected by falling objects, people and poisons.

Looks like Langston has his own Grissom like knowledge that helps him figure out the causes of the deaths.

The trailer for next week looks like fun for Star Trek fans. Of it will be a really goofy episode. They even use the Star Trek font for the CSI logo.
post #120 of 151
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The trailer for next week looks like fun for Star Trek fans. Of it will be a really goofy episode. They even use the Star Trek font for the CSI logo.

It's supposed to be more of a "Battlestar Galactica" connection, as two of that show's writers now write for this - Bradley Thompson and David Weddle. They got their start on "Deep Space Nine", and DS9 exec/Battlestar exec Ronald D. Moore will appear as himself in this episode.

Now, having never watched that Battlestar show, any references to it will be totally lost on me but seeing Moore make a cameo will be cool.
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