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I think its time Chuck got some weapons or at least hand to hand combat training.

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I agree. He is a "tech head". I am sure he could come up with some gadgets to help him out of some situations.

The first season he was smart enough to disarm a bomb. This season they seem to have dropped his tech abilities.

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I hope Strahan makes more appearances! He's a natural.

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Chuck needs to make the (inevitable) choice to become a trained operative, and the show needs to continue to evolve. If they spend the rest of the season, much more the rest of the series, just trying to maintain the status quo like so many shows do, then everything that's so great about the show will turn to shit.

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You should get your wish. One of the creative partners said Chuck will make a major shift in the second half of this season.

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They have to find a way to let Chuck grow while keeping the Buy More and Ellie and Awesome in the mix. They are essential. I really loved the way those two were looking out for Chuck last night. Great stuff.

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Greg that will happen with the upcoming Jill trilogy - Ellie and Morgan are really worried about her breaking up Chuck and Sarah.

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I'd actually like to see less of Ellie and Awesome. Have Chuck move out on his own, or have Morgan as his roommate. IMO there are too many characters, leading to a scatter-shot approach. Occasional Ellie and Awesome (every other episode, every two episodes) would be an improvement.

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The Buy More was great last season when it actually involved Chuck. This season it has all been B plot material that has no relation to Chuck or his cover as a spy.

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Chuck vs. The Break-up

I LOVED this episode.

I love it how the Buy More staff uses the cage for all of their fighting situations.

As soon as Bryce was about to say goodbye to Chuck and left those sunglasses near the front of the apartment area, I knew there was something on those sunglasses.
Chuck is now upgraded to 2.0

I also really loved the breakup scene between Chuck and Sarah.
Very real and a little sad.

and I think this is the first time in a long while that we got an "awesome" from Devan(Captain Awesome)

And I actually thought that when Casey called to do a background check on Anna Wu, that he was going to get some interesting info on her.
I wondering if we going to see something involving her background or family involving the intersect.

This show is getting better and better

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Enjoyed the episode. It addressed a nagging concern of mine: The Intersect is increasingly outdated, so how long can it go on?

Chuck breaking up with Sarah was beautiful, and reminded what I love about this show: It is an irony free show. Such a scene -- emotionally honest and direct -- would not have been in Buffy (a favorite, built on irony). But Chuck follows a fresh path after years of dark, sardonic, emotionally tormented action: it wears its heart on its sleeve and pulls it off without any snarky winks to the audience.

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Agreed Dave. Its a ray of sunshine amidst all the dark and dreary series that are currently on.

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And, interestingly enough, it reveals how artificial that stuff is. I know most here like Buffy a lot, but I never liked Whedon's writing because of that smug snarkiness. He's had a lot of influence on the entertainment industry, so just pulling back from that is making this something different.

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See, I guess I must be in the wrong. I thought the seen was really cloying in that it just felt so forced to me, though it did address something I've thought for a while, that Chuck needs a different interest then one that can't go anywhere.

There is one concern I've had with the whole concept that they've never addressed, and that's this one - why isn't Chuck getting paid by the government? I mean, we assume Casey and Sarah are getting government payroll. But Chuck puts his life at risk and so far, we aren't seeing him get any reward of any sort.

You'd think counting his Buy More income, he'd do well enough to move out on his own. More then that, if he is in all these high risk situations that he worries he and Sarah won't make it, that he'd be aware that it endangers the life of his sister and he'd move out for that reason alone.

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Gosh overthinking the story a bit ehh?

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What, about why isn't Chuck being paid? I mean at least enough that his second job would get him out of the house? If you were Chuck, isn't one of the first questions you'd ask: "Hey, why am I putting my life at risk daily for no benefit."

I think there was an episode in Season 1 where he worried about the safety of his sister because of his second, non paying job

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Its one of those things you have to go with.

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I have no beef with the paycheck. But, my concern was why would the govt want to kill him when the intersect is fixed?
-He is a good backup if something happens.
-Eventually, his brain info will be obsolete.
-And he is a good mobile intersect. How many times was he just walking into a building and flashed on something out of the blue? Could a stationary computer do that?

These are questions that need to be asked.

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Absolutely! This is something that bothered me from the very first episode; Chuck was outdated as soon as he downloaded the intercept. Periodic updates like this up the plausibility factor substantially. I also like the Bryce is entrusted with certain things that Sarah and Casey aren't, just like Casey himself is entrusted with things that Sarah isn't. He's a really solid recurring character: the really nice guy we all love to hate because he's too damned perfect. Absolutely. I think "Firefly" represented Whedon's first attempts at moving away from using snarkiness as a crutch. For clever writers, wit and snark are much easier than genuine emotion. I don't think it was forced simply because the way things were going it was inevitable. If Sarah didn't hestitate in this episode, she would have eventually. Bryce asked Chuck to do the right thing and because Chuck is who he is, he did. That break-up scene was one of the most romantic moments Chuck and Sarah have had, in my book, because Chuck was so gentle and Sarah was completely open to him. Any substantial reward (unlike, say, the room full of roses for Awesome) would blow his cover. People would wonder where he was suddenly getting all of this money working at Buy More. It's an interesting question that probably depends greatly on how the Intercept works. Having a white room isolated on its own probably does nothing. My guess is that it taps into all of the field agents on the ground, possibly through sunglasses like the pair that updated Chuck. If it sees what they see, it'd be like having Chuck's ability inside every field agent across the globe. Or it could work like Eagle Eye, tapping into every networked security camera in the country.

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But couldn't there be a way to somewhat fake this? I mean, couldn't Chuck just say he was distributing Shareware on the Internet on the side ? I'm just saying, if it was me risking dying all the time, I'd want to get paid in some freaking way, some how.

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Mixed bag tonight. On the comedy/action front the show was great. Casey had some great moments - loved the shot of him as DJ.

On the relationship/information side it was a let down sadly. The Jenny Burton name was, as I feared, one of many aliases. The dinner scene was nothing but a tease and most of all - the TALK from 2.03 seemed to have no import tonight.

There were still a few nice moments scattered throughout ie Chuck and Ratner discussing nerds and girls and Sarah defending nerds in the shower fight against Heather.

They did a terrific job making Sarah totally believable as a teenager.

The Buy More stuff was underwhelming.

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Mark Ratner!! Big Fast Times At Ridgemont High shout-out.

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Lou well said. Totally agree. Casey as a DJ cracked me up

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..and he was paired with "Heather Chandler" (Richie's character) , which was the name of the "alpha Heather" played by Kim Walker in Heathers.

Regards,

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Because he is the sole repository of everything the CIA knows about the world. That needs to be in a well-guarded, subterranean room with electronic locks on the door. It can't be in the brain of wage-slave at the local Buy More. As the show goes, he is constantly guarded. They can't keep that up the rest of his life. And he's not a trained spy and fundamentally not trusted in the field so he wouldn't be used as a field op any more than necessary.

Once he's replaced by silicon, it's best to "remove" him permanently.


I'm with Lou on last night's episode. I enjoyed the intent of last night's episode, but it was sloppy in the execution. The Buy More party was beyond believable (if amusing). I did like Casey setting Chuck as "Mad Dog", and that story thread.

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I liked the whole "Mad dog" setup. It shows that Casey does like Chuck. Since last season he would have never allowed Chuck to get the credit.

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Nicole Ritchie looked pretty good...although they figured out how to bust her face up for the flashback shots of them in high school. haha

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It is really hard to buy the fact that a 80 pound girl could go toe to toe with Sarah in a fight.