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Makes sense. I thought the ugly duckling look was part of whatever scam her father was pulling during the high school years. Thinking about it though, that seems rather far-fetched. So that's why it stood out. Like Todd, I'd thought it sounded familar. As soon as I saw Reginald VelJohnson's name in the credits, I knew we were in for a good episode, though he was criminally underused here.
However Michael Rooker, another 1980's favorite, was fantastic here. His character was positively Rooker-tastic. I must have missed that. So wait; is he playing the same character he played in Die Hard? I loved it too. Gift wrapping would so not be part of John Casey's skill set, but the idea that a lethal killing machine only getting injured doing something so completely mundane really tickled me. Yeah. The setup in the Christmas tree lot was a little too "Smallville"-esque for me tastes -- how convenient that Chuck starts listening in at that exact moment. But the lie makes Chuck start to wonder how many other supposedly neatly wrapped up missions had lethal consequences too. Seeing his mother's bracelet danging from the arm that killed a man had to feel awful, too. Me too, especially with the equally convenient set up. It was also the first time the two of them have been completely on the same page in a long time, albeit for completely different reasons.

I look forward to February *ugh!*.

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I was just thinking I need to watch "Die Hard" for Christmas.

Yup, right down to the Twinkies.

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Not a lot to add-- I also loved the Die Hard allusion. I love this show and I'm used to the poignant twist at the end of an hour of fluff, but I was still bummed by the end. Especially since we have to wait to February 2. It is amazing that any show can build or maintain an audience with the realities of today's programming paradigm.

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And I'm sure the Mauser name was a callback to the Police Academy movies.

Could have used more Al and more of Anna in that outfit.

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All we needed was someone to offer the cop negotiator a bag of chocolate covered pretzels. Let's see who gets that tie-in.

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And "How you holding up, partner?'" line.

All we were missing were a couple of FBI agents named Johnson - no relation.

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This show is really starting to bug me. The last few episodes I have been really sick and tired of Chuck's forever innocent, blissfully naive attitude. The last episode with Jill somebody needed to be shot, whether it was Jill for being Fulcrum or Chuck for stealing gov't files to save some chick he dated in college, someone needed a bullet and it never happened. Last night finally someone gets shot and Chuck decides to get all pouty because his wannabe girlfriend killed an agent while wearing his mothers bracelet. You would think that for all he has seen and done since becoming the intersect he would just HTFU and have some faith and trust in the women he appears to love that if she shot the guy there was a good reason.

Another thing for a trained agent and the way she grew up Sarah sure had a hard time pulling the trigger especially given the circumstances.

I'm really surprised how annoyed I have become with the show, to the point that when it returns it will be a "watch it when I have time" instead of "priority viewing".

There I feel a little better.

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Chuck wouldn't have had a problem with her shooting Mauser in self-defense. It looks completely coldblooded from his position of not having all of the facts. At the same time, Sarah wouldn't have had a hard time shooting in self-defense, either. She was weighing the fact that she had him in custody and his boasts about continually endangering Chuck's life could very well amount to nothing, assuming the CIA/NSA maintain the basic ability to keep a prisoner in custody. It's sort of like a cop alone in an alley with a guy known to be absolutely guilty of child murder. He starts taunting about how he's going to get out and do the same to the cop's daughter, and the cop has to struggle to not kill the guy right there and claim self-defense later. The difference here, of course, is that the general wouldn't even need the lie. Killing a Fulcrum agent to protect the Intersect would save a lot of trouble down the road. But, Sarah has to live with the killing (which is mainly Hollywood convention, I think; I think real-life Batman would kill the Joker and think, "Hate to kill, but I can't risk this guy getting out. Again.") and Chuck has to live with thinking she did it unnecessarily. We don't know how long this misunderstanding will hang between them. Will Chuck understand her actions if he's told what the guy said?

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Is said negotiator faster than Walt Flanagan's dog?

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Yes, this is something I dislike when they do it. They've conveyed her character as someone who has been a deep cover assassin type. I seriously doubt given the background we have on her character that she should have any serious remorse about killing an enemy agent. And, I assume if she told her higher ups "The fulcrum agent was disarmed, and told me that if he was captured and brought in, they had friends who would find him or that our agencies may be compromised, and the secret of the intersect would leak". The question wouldn't be "you should have brought him in" it would be "did you make sure to hide the body?" Or something along those lines.



Just saying. I don't think her character should have any over the top remorse. And, I think the better conflict would be for Chuck to see that she doesn't have remorse over the killing.. while he worries about it.. and wonder what kind of person she is that she doesn't have the same feelings.

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I think what you all are objecting to is the show doing what alot of romantic comedies do routinely, causing a conflict that keeps the characters apart, the first season Sarah would'nt have a problem doing what she did, Chuck would have to just deal with it.

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Sarah's conflict with shooting the Fulcrum agent is directly related to her growing emotional attachment to Chuck. She wants to be the girl that Chuck imagines. But the reality of the situation is that Sarah is forced to do things that Chuck would not approve of to protect him. In point of fact, it was Chuck's actions that led to it being necessary for Sarah to execute the agent.

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Finally got a chance to sit down and watch this, so all the good comments are taken.

Nitpick: I was annoyed that Chuck told Fulcrum he as the Intersect. He could have told them a half-dozen plausible lies to buy time, and explained away Casey and Sarah by saying they were assigned to keep an eye on him in case Bryce tried to make contact. Chuck's been doing this too long to make a mistake that dumb.

But apart from that - GREAT episode. Loved the Groundhog Day and Die Hard stuff. (Down to a few notes of "Ode to Joy" playing when the electonic gate came down the first time.) Sgt. Powell and the twinkie. Ned Reyerson! ("Ned Ryerson. You know. Ned the Head?") Chuck calling Sarah. Lester calling the sex line. Lester waking up to the sight of Anna and Ellie. Awesome being Awesome.

Regards,

Joe

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Jeff calling mom in prison.

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How about learning Awesome's name.

With regards to Sarah killing the Fulcrum agent. The gov would not be angry at all. They plan on killing Chuck once the Intersect is fixed.

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His name has been mentioned a few times previously.

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Yes its Devon Woodcombe.

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I can't believe we have to wait 6 weeks for the next new episode of Chuck. Stupid network scheduling.

It's at the point now where I look more forward to this show than Heroes. I never thought I would be saying that after Season 1 of Heroes, but that's what happens.

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LOLSARAH.

To me, that's cool. The fall shows all have had largely unbroken runs. I assume they'll have similarly unbroken runs in the spring.

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I caught the quick touch of Die Hard music as the gate was coming down too and was loving it. (I was just watching Die Hard the other day, it is, after all, Christmas time.) Between that and seeing Reginald Johnson's name in the credits, I thought this was going to be just a fun for laughs episode. The Fulcrum swerve was good, especially when Ned ended up being on it. The last half of the episode took a big turn left! I really enjoyed the episode.

While the show has some goofy moments, it's the story turns that keep it interesting. The cast all work so well together that they can take it drama to comedy and back with a smooth flow.

My favorite part this year though has been "Unleash the Casey". I about pissed my pants.

I can't get enough of this show, even the episodes that aren't so great I find a way to enjoy something out of it. Sarah can't get much hotter, but I got to say, I was digging Anna in the Santa outfit. The funny thing is that I used to think Elle was pretty hot, but she plays the sister so well that now I kind of look at her like she's a sister... and that's not hot anymore.

Doug

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Wasn't that music the Ode To Joy portion of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony? That's what I thought I was hearing.

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My wife asks: if Fulcrum knows that Casey & Sarah are NSA agents working at BuyMore, then isn't their cover fully blown and they need to be replaced? Fulcrum may not know Chuck is the intersect, but clearly Casey & Sarah are still there and doing something important enough that the Fulcrum agents were fully neutralized, proving something important is at BuyMore.

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Yes. Which is the same music that is playing in Die Hard when the bad guys seal off the Nakatomi tower (AKA the Fox office bldg. ), hence the joke. Yes, it was Beethoven, but in this specific context it was a Die Hard reference, one of many.

Regards,

Joe

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Yeah, but given the level of CHAOS's - I mean Fulcrum's - penetration of NSA and/or CIA, they can't be sure that the next pair of agents they assign wouldn't a) also be identified and b) possibly be Fulcrum agents themselves. Plus it means letting two more people in on the secret of the intersect, and - as the well-known spy maxim goes - the odds of a secret's being blown is equal to the square of the number of people who know it.

Any way you slice it Fulcrum would probably still keep the Buy More under surveliance and they'd pay even more attention to any new Buy More hires or workers at other businesses who suddenly develop relationships with Buy More employees. Swapping out Casey and Sarah at this point would likely gain the government little or nothing while introducing dangerous new variables. Since nobody knows about the Intersect, better to leave well enough alone and go with two of the few agents everybody can be 100% sure aren't Fulcrum.


I'm with you on Anna, not so much on Elle. I was not thinking of her as a sister when she and Anna were leaning over that stretcher.

Regards,

Joe

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You ain't from the Ozarks, is you, boy?

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I hope this hasn't been repeated here somewhere.
But when Chuck returns on Feb 2nd

Chuck vs. The Third Dimension

It will be a special 3-D episode starring Lost's Dominic Monaghan

It will be cool to see if we get to see Chuck's flashes in 3-D

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This is a amazing show. One of the better ones on TV today. I will admit that season two got off to a ruff start but it has definetly redemed itself.

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Do we need red and blue glasses? Where can you score a pair when they aren't being offered in some promotion?

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I hope I can use the glasses that I got from the Georgia Aquariam show. They aren't the red and blue ones.

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Are they the clear, I guess "polarized" glasses that are used when 3D is done right?

Edit: According to wiki:


Dang.