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The Shield: Season Seven

post #1 of 257
8/27/08 at 6:50am
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The final season of The Shield starts on Tuesday, September 2.
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post #2 of 257
8/27/08 at 11:24am

Re: The Shield: Season Seven

Does anyone know if the Shield will be broadcast on HiDef? I don't get FX station in HiDef on Comcast.
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post #3 of 257
8/27/08 at 12:25pm
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I could be wrong but I don't think FX has an HD channel.
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post #4 of 257
8/30/08 at 3:16pm

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So who thinks Vic will go out in a blaze of glory and gunfire or go out with a whimper in a jail cell?!?!
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post #5 of 257
8/31/08 at 12:22am

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Originally Posted by TravisR
I could be wrong but I don't think FX has an HD channel.


DirecTV has FX in HD, but Dish doesn't. Even on Direct I don't know if The Shield will actually be broadcast in HD, though. All I know is I can't wait for these final episodes. Should be awesome.
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post #6 of 257
8/31/08 at 7:40am
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Originally Posted by Blu
So who thinks Vic will go out in a blaze of glory and gunfire or go out with a whimper in a jail cell?!?!
My guess is that he doesn't end up dead or in jail but he'll still pay a heavy cost (like having to kill his former best friend or more of his friends or family dying or committing some evil deed to get away).

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Originally Posted by Brent M
Even on Direct I don't know if The Shield will actually be broadcast in HD, though.
Yeah, technically The Shield is intended to be seen at 1.33 so it may not be.
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post #7 of 257
8/31/08 at 3:08pm

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I've seen no evidence that Vic pays any emotional cost for anything. IMO, he has long since buried his emotions to the point where he's pretty much willing to do anything to accomplish his goals. Did he care about his wife? Sure. But he'll lie to her and cheat on her. Does it hurt him to lose her. Sure, but he'll just fill the void some other way. Or maybe convince her to come back. What won't happen is he won't see the error of his ways and reform. Vic is Vic, for better or worse. I once knew a cop a lot like Vic, and the only thing that changed him was getting old (he no longer had the energy or physicality to do what he previously did, and he eventually was marginalized and "retired" from the force). God knows what Vic would do without his badge.
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post #8 of 257
9/1/08 at 11:11am

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I agree that a fate worse than death or jail to Vic would be to lose his badge for good.

That might be more of a Sopranos style of ending though. The Shield was always about gritty storyline and plots not really the avante garde storytelling that The Sopranos adopted.
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post #9 of 257
9/2/08 at 3:19pm

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tick tock tick tock.....
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post #10 of 257
9/2/08 at 6:39pm

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Waiting anxiously............
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post #11 of 257
9/2/08 at 8:16pm

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I think he is going out in a blaze of glory... or I think he will be offed while he sleeps or something. But I think either way Vic is going down.........

What a great first episode........
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post #12 of 257
9/2/08 at 8:20pm
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That was a freaking sweet opening sequence with that Social Distortion song playing and the reveal of Vic and Ronnie coming out in Shane's apartment.

Anything with Billings makes me laugh and those big sunglasses were no exception.

Great opening to a hopefully great season!
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post #13 of 257
9/2/08 at 9:42pm

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Great episode but no HD...ugh. Also, did anyone else think the video quality was extra poor? I know 'The Shield' has always gone for that "grainy" look, but this just seemed far below even past seasons. Not sure if it had something to do with being on FXHD, but the broadcast not actually being HD. (I have DirecTV.)
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post #14 of 257
9/2/08 at 9:46pm

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Great start to the season, but I too thought the video quality looked worse than previous seasons(even by non-HD standards). I wonder if all 13 episodes will look that bad.
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post #15 of 257
9/3/08 at 4:39am

Re: The Shield: Season Seven

This might be a reach but do you think the quality might be intentional since Vic's life will start to deteriorate?
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post #16 of 257
9/3/08 at 7:37am
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Originally Posted by ScottH
Great episode but no HD...ugh. Also, did anyone else think the video quality was extra poor? I know 'The Shield' has always gone for that "grainy" look, but this just seemed far below even past seasons. Not sure if it had something to do with being on FXHD, but the broadcast not actually being HD. (I have DirecTV.)
Having just watched the S6 DVDs, it looked basically the same to me. Keep in mind that the show is shot on 16mm.

And correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think that there can be an HD broacast when the show is 4x3.
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post #17 of 257
9/3/08 at 4:04pm

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And correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think that there can be an HD broacast when the show is 4x3.

I think you are right about this one....

I thought the film grain looked about normal to me.
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post #18 of 257
9/3/08 at 5:54pm

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The PQ was definitely down from past seasons, but as I said, it could have to do with the fact that I was watching a non-HD broadcast on FXHD. I'm not sure what you mean about the show being 4:3...the bottom line is it wasn't filmed in HD, so it's not HD (regardless of aspect ratio). Even when they showed that season 1 recap it looked noticeably better than last night's episode.
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post #19 of 257
9/3/08 at 7:42pm
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Originally Posted by ScottH
I'm not sure what you mean about the show being 4:3...the bottom line is it wasn't filmed in HD, so it's not HD (regardless of aspect ratio).
Now I'm not following you. If it was shot on film, an HD presentation should look better than an SD presentation (although for The Shield, it'll only be slightly better since it's 16mm) but since the show is shot 4x3, I believe you wouldn't get the same resolution as you would from a show that is shot 16x9. That being said, I freely admit that I'm no expert so I could be wrong about the lower resolution of a 4x3 picture.

EDIT: Just out of curiosity, when the Direct TV folks are saying that they didn't show it in HD, did they stretch the frame or show it in 4x3?
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post #20 of 257
9/4/08 at 5:39am

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And correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think that there can be an HD broacast when the show is 4x3.

HD does not equal "16:9". A picture made up of 1080 or 720 lines from the top of the screen to the bottom is HD whether the aspect ratio is 1.33:1, 1.66:1, 2.35:1 or anything in between. Any series shot, edited and preserved on film can get an HD transfer, just as any theatrical film can get an HD transfer, regardless of apsect ratio.

I thought the opener was great. This season is going to be a wild ride. Didn't notice any difference in the quality of the 16mm photography, but then, in my area Comcast only carries FX on the digital SD tier, which pretty much sucks all the time.

Regards,

Joe
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post #21 of 257
9/4/08 at 5:49am

Re: The Shield: Season Seven

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Originally Posted by TravisR
EDIT: Just out of curiosity, when the Direct TV folks are saying that they didn't show it in HD, did they stretch the frame or show it in 4x3?
They showed it in 4:3.
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post #22 of 257
9/4/08 at 8:59am
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Thanks for the info, Joe.

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Originally Posted by ScottH
They showed it in 4:3.
Not to drag this on but then I don't see the problem.
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post #23 of 257
9/4/08 at 9:29am

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Originally Posted by TravisR
Thanks for the info, Joe.

Not to drag this on but then I don't see the problem.
My problem was just with the quality of the video, not the aspect ratio. It was beyond the "raw" and "grainy" look they're going for. As I said, the season 1 recap they did didn't have the issue. I'm convinced it had something to do with FXHD.
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post #24 of 257
9/6/08 at 8:33am

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I think the time between last season and this season was a little too long, I'm not all that vested in this show yet, hoping for some Shield momentum returns for me. I guess when time goes by, you are left with "how many lives does Vic Mackey have" before you actively roll your eyes at the plot development that the writers cook up to mush through the final season of The Shield. It was just weird to see how much of the episode revolved around Billings, who is good for comedic effect, but not so good to use even as the B-plot of the episode.
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post #25 of 257
9/10/08 at 6:34am

Re: The Shield: Season Seven

The scene between Claudette and the kid was the only one that perked my interest, just because I wanted to see how she'd handle what the kid was giving her. The rest of the episode was average for the show, which is still better than 80% of other scripted shows out there.
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post #26 of 257
9/10/08 at 7:32am

Re: The Shield: Season Seven

Does anyone know where I can find good episode synopses for the show. Sometimes I find it a bit hard to follow everything that is going on. I checked Wikipedia, but couldn't find anything good.
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post #27 of 257
9/10/08 at 9:46am
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Originally Posted by Patrick Sun
The scene between Claudette and the kid was the only one that perked my interest...
CCH Pounder is a really great actor so I always like when they give her a scene to shine in.
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post #28 of 257
9/10/08 at 8:17pm

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Originally Posted by WillG
Does anyone know where I can find good episode synopses for the show. Sometimes I find it a bit hard to follow everything that is going on. I checked Wikipedia, but couldn't find anything good.


TV.com has short episode synopses for all shows incl. The Shield, but they're not very in-depth. I know what you mean about it being hard to follow the show sometimes as it's hard to keep track of all the different gang types in LA.
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post #29 of 257
9/11/08 at 7:22am

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TV.com has short episode synopses for all shows incl. The Shield, but they're not very in-depth

Yeah, I've seen those. The thing in Fox has very comprehensive synopsies for their shows online. It's too bad FX doesn't seem to do this as well.
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post #30 of 257
9/11/08 at 7:39am
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Re: The Shield: Season Seven

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Originally Posted by WillG
Yeah, I've seen those. The thing in Fox has very comprehensive synopsies for their shows online. It's too bad FX doesn't seem to do this as well.
Do you have any specific questions? I watched the S6 DVDs about a week and a half ago so I might (emphasis on 'might' ) be able to answer some questions.

Last month, me and a buddy were talking about how The Shield was starting up again soon and we both realized that we could only remember the briefest bits of S6 since it had been so long since it ran.
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