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post #211 of 1372

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I don't know what the layoff time between Hollywood week and the final cut episode was, but it appeared that Tatiana spent the entire time eating KFC. Holy Jesus, she looked like Grimace wearing a gold lame contractor bag.

If you haven't heard by now, Joanna Pacitti was booted from the show. It just so happens two of her best friends (one of whom is decribed by Joanna as her "manager") work for 19E, one of the Idol production companies. The story broke in Star Magazine, and after last nights show aired, the Idol producers annouced she was cut and replaced with Felicia Barton. I was surprised that the producers showed clips of Joanna forgetting her words to all three HWW performances. It just made her selection look even more engineered. I guess that's history now.

Casey is in, and without any drama. Whew.
post #212 of 1372

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Joanna Pacitti was booted from the show. It just so happens two of her best friends (one of whom is decribed by Joanna as her "manager") work for 19E

I hadn't heard, and it hasn't hit any of my RSS feeds yet (just Chris Brown and Rihanna along with who is leaving Desperate Housewives and Grey's).

When I see something like that, I have to wonder who thought this would be a good idea... Joanna thought there'd be no conflict of interest when her "manager" works for the company that produces AI? What about the manager herself? That's grounds for firing, IMO, as she should have said something.
post #213 of 1372

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Originally Posted by Patrick Sun
I think I'd be okay with next week's line-up as the actual final 12, but I guess only 4 are going through from this first group, and that's unfortunate because it's a pretty decent line-up, easily on par with the last 4 season's final 12 line-ups.

The programming information on my Dish 722 DVR (nine days advanced listings) seems to indicate that next week the first group of 12 will be whittled down to three contestants making it through. And then (I assume) the following two weeks will see the same scenario played out with the next two groups of twelve so that by March 4th we will have nine "finalist" slots filled. It's been mentioned that there will be some "second-chance" or "judges' choices" selected to fill out the "Final 12" and I would think that this would be during the week of March 9th.

When I was setting up our HTF AI8 Top Ten Challenge somebody mentioned that the Final 12 was scheduled to be in place on March 10th and if that's still true then we will proceed as planned (See the separate thread at the top of this section for details.) If the date that the Final 12 are identified (or if that number changes) then I will adjust the timelines accordingly. We all know that AI loves to try to see to it that some "interesting" people make it to the single elimination phase of the show (without depending entirely on "America" voting on it) so I wouldn't be surprised by anything that keeps the Fox hand involved a bit longer.

Stay tuned....

And if you haven't yet indicated that you want to join us in the AI8 Challenge contest go to the thread HERE and add a placeholder as suggested. We are about a month away from submitting entries. (Gotta be in it to win it and all that.)


post #214 of 1372

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This is why I hate AI now. It is no longer about singing than it is about exploiting people who are obviously sick or deluded.


AI was *never* about singing. It’s a program designed to get eyeballs. Period – with the additional added value of marketing an album or two at the end of the day, but every spring, every prepared moment of the show is for ratings purposes only.

Which is why they blatantly trump up drama and jam crazy people like her down our throats and push contrived hardship stories to get us engaged etc etc.
post #215 of 1372

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Originally Posted by RAF
...the first group of 12 will be whittled down to three contestants making it through. And then (I assume) the following two weeks will see the same scenario played out with the next two groups of twelve so that by March 4th we will have nine "finalist" slots filled.
Jebus, that's harsh. 3 out of 12? Be prepared to lose most of your favorites. It's a far cry from losing two girls and two guys a week and hoping to build a fanbase.
post #216 of 1372

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I hope thats not true about 3 of the 12. Since next weeks group has a bunch of the favs. Although, the final 3 spots might be taking them as 2nd chancers.

Which one is Felicia Barton? Was she the married singer whose hubby was botted earlier and then she was booted at last nights sing-off?
post #217 of 1372

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My PVR says "3 of 12" as well. Though, am I remembering correctly when I think there was talk of the wildcard coming back?
post #218 of 1372

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Originally Posted by EricSchulz
I think VoteForTheWorstIdol.com (or whatever it's called) just hit paydirt!

Touche, Eric--and you too, Lucia.

Via Tatiana and that Nick dude, AI has just given Howard Stern easy potential charges to work with if he is going to promote Vote For The Worst on his radio program.

Stay tuned!!!!!!
post #219 of 1372

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Felicia was the husky dark haried girl with the raspy voice who I believe asked, "Really?" when she was cut.

She looks like this:

post #220 of 1372

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Here are the 12 for the first week:

Casey Carlson, Stephen Fowler, Jackie Tohn, Ricky Braddy, Anne Marie Boskovich, Brent Keith, Alexis Grace, Michael Sarver, Stevie Wright, Danny Gokey, Tatiana Del Toro, Anoop Desai

I easily believe Casey, Danny, Anoop, Anne Marie, Stevie, and Jackie could/should make top 12. So, yeah, this group is loaded.

But, from what I've read this is how the voting will work (yes, voting now moves contestants forward):

The top male vote getter will go to the top 12, the top female vote getter will move to the top 12, the next highest vote getter will move to the top 12. That's only 3 of the 12.

The next 4 highest vote getters of this group will move to a top 12 wildcard round. So, after 3 of each group of 12 have been moved to the top 12 we'll get a wildcard show and 3 of those 12 will move into the top 12.

I don't know how this system will work and give us 6 guys and 6 gals for the top 12. But, that's what I'm reading!
post #221 of 1372

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They have stated that the top 12 will not necessarily be an even M/F split.

So essentially, 7 out of the 12 still have a shot after week 1 (3 go through, four to the Wildcard round). Where did you get this info? The format before the season started stated that the 3 wildcards were directly chosen by the judges. I think 7 out of 12 is more fair.

Does anyone really think Tatiana has any shot at this? I know there's VFTW and all, but from what I gather, everybody hates her. They hate her so much, she could sing like Whitney and they still want to throw their shoes at the TV.
post #222 of 1372

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Originally Posted by Hanson Yoo
Casey is in, and without any drama. Whew.

I fear that Casey will be shown as just a pretty girl without much range on next week's elimination show. They didn't show her singing much of anything during the Hollywood episodes.
post #223 of 1372

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Originally Posted by Hanson Yoo
Felicia was the husky dark haried girl with the raspy voice who I believe asked, "Really?" when she was cut.

She looks like this:




It doesn't appear that her singing stops people in their tracks, though.
post #224 of 1372

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Originally Posted by Quentin
Here are the 12 for the first week:

Casey Carlson, Stephen Fowler, Jackie Tohn, Ricky Braddy, Anne Marie Boskovich, Brent Keith, Alexis Grace, Michael Sarver, Stevie Wright, Danny Gokey, Tatiana Del Toro, Anoop Desai

I easily believe Casey, Danny, Anoop, Anne Marie, Stevie, and Jackie could/should make top 12. So, yeah, this group is loaded.

That really stinks. Their are more than 3 top 12 singers in that group. I will give in a shot. But, I am really not liking how they are setting this up.
post #225 of 1372

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Originally Posted by Hanson Yoo
Does anyone really think Tatiana has any shot at this?

God I hope not, I can't stand her voice let alone her.

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Originally Posted by Hanson Yoo
I know there's VFTW and all, but from what I gather, everybody hates her. They hate her so much,

Sooo.... Muchhhhhh!!!! /homer
post #226 of 1372

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Originally Posted by Hanson Yoo
They have stated that the top 12 will not necessarily be an even M/F split.

So essentially, 7 out of the 12 still have a shot after week 1 (3 go through, four to the Wildcard round). Where did you get this info? The format before the season started stated that the 3 wildcards were directly chosen by the judges. I think 7 out of 12 is more fair.

Does anyone really think Tatiana has any shot at this? I know there's VFTW and all, but from what I gather, everybody hates her. They hate her so much, she could sing like Whitney and they still want to throw their shoes at the TV.

I was wrong and you are right. The final 3 wildcard picks will be judges favorites from the remaining 27. So, it COULD be all from group 1 for all we know.
post #227 of 1372

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Casey Carlson, Stephen Fowler, Jackie Tohn, Ricky Braddy, Anne Marie Boskovich, Brent Keith, Alexis Grace, Michael Sarver, Stevie Wright, Danny Gokey, Tatiana Del Toro, Anoop Desai

Much as I think Casey is purdy, so far we haven't seen much of her singing to lead me to think she can survive this group. Fowler is damned lucky Simon didn't enforce his "forget the lyrics and you're dead" line.

Danny and Anoop are easily the best male singers in the group, whilst I really like the tone of Anne Marie's voice: there is just something really silky smooth and warm about it. I'm hard pressed to think of any successful pro out there who's voice I'd describe the same way; maybe Anne Murray, but I don't have any of her stuff and it's been a long time since I heard her on the radio.

Mike Sarver would be a crowd favourite I think, his blue-collar hardworking background is very appealing, as are his impeccable manners: notice how whne he addressed the judges it was always "sir" and "ma'am"? A real Southern gentlemen.

Tatiana the trainwreck. Has a nice ring to it. Hope next week is the last we see of her. At least Nick Mitchell is entertaining, and he himself knows it's all schtick and is wondering now whether to just sing it straight. And may I add, I find Nathaniel almost as annoying as Tatiana; almost, but not quite as, since he seems more genuine, just waaaay too emotional. And unlike The Trainwreck, it wasn't all "me me me": he seemed to really take it quite badly that he had to face off against his friend, and his friend lost out.

Speaking of face offs, when our two blue-collar guys had to face off, I somehow knew the twist was both would make it. I wish I'd been keeping score up till then...
post #228 of 1372

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Originally Posted by Yee-Ming
Fowler is damned lucky Simon didn't enforce his "forget the lyrics and you're dead" line.


I thought that "rule" was meant to only apply to the initial singing during hollywod week--sort of a minimum pass line to help rapidly reduce the amount of contestants to even remotely consider. It seems clear from the sheer volume of singers who forgot words, yet made it to the latter rounds, that the rule no longer applied by then.
post #229 of 1372

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Originally Posted by Yee-Ming
Much as I think Casey is purdy, so far we haven't seen much of her singing to lead me to think she can survive this group.
Yes, I've already resigned myself to getting just one performance from Casey. I thkn Stephen Fowler is going to get lost in the wash as well -- while he did forget the lyrics, I think he may have the best pure voice in the competition. I suppose if they both perform out of their minds, they may at least get judges consideration for wildcard. It kind of sucks that Danny could have an off night here and still make it through based on his sob story and inordinate face time. Idol voters are notoriously a week or two behind when it comes to dropping contestants who aren't hitting their potential.
post #230 of 1372

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Originally Posted by Yee-Ming
And may I add, I find Nathaniel almost as annoying as Tatiana; almost, but not quite as, since he seems more genuine, just waaaay too emotional.

Ugghhh! That's another person that makes me want to kick puppies. That guy drives me insane too.
post #231 of 1372

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Originally Posted by Mikah Cerucco
But not before we finish being entertained by her. Because short of death or serious injury, it's all good. The degree of entertainment lies in how close we can get without going over that line. And that's on national TV.

Go look at a chat room or forum that's talking about some horrific incident and you'll find people entertained by it. Heck, there are even stories of people committing suicide while in chat rooms as other chat room participants cheered.

We are, after all, the country that sat and watched Britney shave her head bald with a smile before we thought "hmmm... maybe..." We'd catch every downward spiral moment on film and make fun of her for our enjoyment ("Hey, I feel better, look how screwed up she is!") up until the point where she commits suicide, then call it tragic.

The Romans had the Gladiators fight to the death for their entertainment. I'm not so sure if they were less evolved or just more honest. The Running Man was supposed to be a parody. I think.

That doesn't make it right, nor should it. I do not take delight in such things. Yes, the internet is filled with total idiots like you describe that are what I call the dregs of society. You will always find that type of scum that enjoys anothers pain and suffering.
post #232 of 1372

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Originally Posted by Lucia Duran
You just wait and see how people will vote to keep both Nick and tatiana in just for pure entertainment. This is why I hate AI now. It is no longer about singing than it is about exploiting people who are obviously sick or deluded.

I really like Matt, Danny and Anoop.

Totally agree. Plus don't forget it doesn't hurt to be model good looking either. You can have the best voice in the world, but it won't take you far unless you got the looks to back it up. It should always go to the best voice, not a compromise. But for some time now the industry has been about studio creations and not the art itself.
post #233 of 1372

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I totally agree with Greg_S_H's post too.

And, honestly, I like Nick/ Norman. He's very entertaining. And not a prick.

I like Ethel too -- when he's not doing the drag queen act. The disconnect between his look and his singing is a little funky.
post #234 of 1372

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Why, thank you. But, I haven't said anything in a while.

Does Ethel = Adam? I'm glad that Lindsay Lohan-looking Cody is gone. He was like Danny Noriega Pt. 2.
post #235 of 1372

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Adam is Ethel, as in Ethel Merman.
post #236 of 1372

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And in case you haven't heard, they moved Michael Sarver (oil rig worker with thunder thighs) out of round one and replaced him with the welder with the thunder thighs. It appears that Sarver and Danny Gokey were running away with the polling, so they moved Michael out to prevent a potential logjam. The upshot is that Anoop's chances of making the top three have increased dramatically. What does this mean for Casey? Not a lot, unfortunately.
post #237 of 1372

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I had a feeling Sarver would be popular. Yee-Ming had it right. And it looks to be true.
post #238 of 1372

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Originally Posted by Hanson Yoo
And in case you haven't heard, they moved Michael Sarver (oil rig worker with thunder thighs) out of round one and replaced him with the welder with the thunder thighs. It appears that Sarver and Danny Gokey were running away with the polling, so they moved Michael out to prevent a potential logjam. The upshot is that Anoop's chances of making the top three have increased dramatically. What does this mean for Casey? Not a lot, unfortunately.

As of right now, they switched it back and Michael Sarver is again pictured under Group 1. The "Idol" site did have Matt the welder's picture in Group 1 this morning.
post #239 of 1372

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Apparently, it was a webmaster error and there was never any intention to move anyone around.

On the bright side: The top three vote-getters in the AOL Idol poll are Danny, Casey, and Anoop. Yes, Casey. YES! CASEY!
post #240 of 1372

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A question to those of you who follow the American Idol 8 schedule closer than I do...

Does anyone know the projected date of the Finals for this season? By doing the math I can figure out that it's probably somewhere around Memorial Day but I always forget about things such as "American Idol gives back" and possible double elimination dates.

Is there a date pencilled in for when American Idol #8 is crowned?

Thanks in advance.
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