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Superman Returns re-release with new trueHD and PCM track!

post #1 of 27
8/21/08 at 6:30pm
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the new version will be released on september 9th and will include both the PCM and trueHD track.

Jacob


Blu-ray.com - Superman Returns Gets TrueHD Treatment
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post #2 of 27
8/21/08 at 8:15pm

Re: Superman Returns re-release with new trueHD and PCM track!

Ah, how very charitable of them. And I suppose in 2 more years for another $20 they will introduce a version with a lossless track and better PQ as well?
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post #3 of 27
8/22/08 at 3:48am

Re: Superman Returns re-release with new trueHD and PCM track!

Good news. I haven´t even seen the film yet, let alone owning the "original" BD-version...

But where are those original Superman-films in BD? Dammit.
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post #4 of 27
8/22/08 at 5:19am
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Re: Superman Returns re-release with new trueHD and PCM track!

Superman The movie and Superman 2 donner cut are both on HDdvd and bluray!
hdnetmovies has played both the theatre version of superman 2 and superman 3.

Jacob
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post #5 of 27
8/22/08 at 5:53am

Re: Superman Returns re-release with new trueHD and PCM track!

I don't suppose Warners is offering a rebate to previous owners of the BD, are they?
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post #6 of 27
8/22/08 at 5:59am

Re: Superman Returns re-release with new trueHD and PCM track!

Good news! Thanks for the heads up. I love the movie and I've been holding out for this.
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post #7 of 27
8/22/08 at 6:15am

Re: Superman Returns re-release with new trueHD and PCM track!

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Originally Posted by MattH.
I don't suppose Warners is offering a rebate to previous owners of the BD, are they?

Better yet, why not an exchange? Wishful thinking I know but I'm a bit ticked off by this.....they should have released this with the lossless tracks in the first place.

I guess we'll be seeing more lossless reissues from them in the near future.
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post #8 of 27
8/22/08 at 7:33am

Re: Superman Returns re-release with new trueHD and PCM track!

Why offer a rebate when they can get suckers like us to pony up to the plate 2x?
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post #9 of 27
8/22/08 at 8:31am

Re: Superman Returns re-release with new trueHD and PCM track!

Considering Warner Bros. waited until their existing stock of DD 5.1 discs were depleted before releasing this version, hoping for an exchange program seems unrealistic.
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post #10 of 27
8/22/08 at 2:24pm

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Originally Posted by TheBat
Superman The movie and Superman 2 donner cut are both on HDdvd and bluray!
hdnetmovies has played both the theatre version of superman 2 and superman 3.

Ah, sorry. I got confused, since I kinda thought about the big "Superman Ultimate Collector's Edition" (Superman - The Movie/ Superman II/ Superman II - The Richard Donner Cut/ Superman III/ Superman IV - The Quest for Peace/ Superman Returns) (available in SD DVD only)...
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post #11 of 27
8/22/08 at 11:55pm

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Originally Posted by Eric F
Why offer a rebate when they can get suckers like us to pony up to the plate 2x?

Like you maybe, not me. While this was just a ho-hum ok film it's not worth double-dipping for, not even with a TrueHD track.
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post #12 of 27
8/23/08 at 12:01am

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Originally Posted by Ron-P
Like you maybe, not me. While this was just a ho-hum ok film it's not worth double-dipping for, not even with a TrueHD track.
I completely agree. I may get a bluray set with all the Superman films, but, I damn sure won't go out and buy this one title for a sound upgrade.
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post #13 of 27
8/23/08 at 7:11pm

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I think that WB needs to concentrate on releasing Superman 3 & 4 instead of re-releasing Superman Returns.

And I am also wondering when we will see Lethal Weapon 3 & 4?

I guess I would not be surprised to see both Superman and Lethal Weapon released as a 4 movie box set. With new transfers and new lossless audio tracks as well. Has anyone heard anything about the 3rd & 4th movies of ether series?
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post #14 of 27
8/23/08 at 7:55pm

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As mediocre as Returns was, I can't honestly believe people think 3 & (especially) 4 were better. Oh well, different strokes for different folks as they say...
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post #15 of 27
8/23/08 at 8:26pm

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While I was never really big on Superman 3 & 4, but in a way I would not mind having a 4 Superman movies on Blu-ray. I actually have never owned all the Superman movies so I might buy them all on Bluray if they where available. You would think that WB would have all the Superman movies on Blu-ray by now. I actually am alot more interested in seeing Lethal Weapon 3 & 4. I would also hope that if WB re-releases Superman 1 & 2 and Lethal Weapon 1 & 2. That they would release them with lossless audio instead of using lossy Dolby Digital.
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post #16 of 27
8/25/08 at 12:58pm

Re: Superman Returns re-release with new trueHD and PCM track!

I have a kind of newbie-ish question about this re-release.

According to the Digital Bits, "the original Blu-ray featured only LPCM uncompressed surround audio."

If the original version already contained an uncompressed audio track, what would be the advantage of a losslessly-compressed audio track? Won't they sound exactly the same?
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post #17 of 27
8/25/08 at 1:04pm

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Originally Posted by cafink
I have a kind of newbie-ish question about this re-release.

According to the Digital Bits, "the original Blu-ray featured only LPCM uncompressed surround audio."

If the original version already contained an uncompressed audio track, what would be the advantage of a losslessly-compressed audio track? Won't they sound exactly the same?

According to High Def Digest, Superman Returns got a standard 5.1 Dolby Digital track on blu-ray the first time around.

Doug
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post #18 of 27
8/25/08 at 1:51pm

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Originally Posted by Douglas Monce
According to High Def Digest, Superman Returns got a standard 5.1 Dolby Digital track on blu-ray the first time around.

Doug

Exactly right. That's the audio mix on the BD copy that I have.
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post #19 of 27
8/25/08 at 4:45pm

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According to High Def Digest, Superman Returns got a standard 5.1 Dolby Digital track on blu-ray the first time around.

That is the one thing about the Blu-ray version that I hated! I am not to sure I am willing to double dip this title though. Mostly because I have the HD-DVD version that has a Dolby True HD track. So I am most likely going to have to pass on the re-release of the Blu-ray of Superman Returns.
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post #20 of 27
8/26/08 at 10:36pm

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Originally Posted by Dave Moritz
That is the one thing about the Blu-ray version that I hated! I am not to sure I am willing to double dip this title though. Mostly because I have the HD-DVD version that has a Dolby True HD track. So I am most likely going to have to pass on the re-release of the Blu-ray of Superman Returns.

Weren't a number of people disappointed with the HD DVD on this however because although it was True HD, it was a relatively low sample rate 48khz 16bit if I recall. I don't know if the new version is a 96/24 release or not. Of course it the original recordings are 48/16 it wouldn't make any difference anyway.

Doug
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post #21 of 27
8/27/08 at 7:41am

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Does anyone know if this reissue will include a PCM track as well? I thought I read somewhere that the import TrueHD version currently being sold online also includes a PCM track which supposedly sounds better than the TrueHD track.
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post #22 of 27
8/27/08 at 9:16am

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Originally Posted by Shaun
Does anyone know if this reissue will include a PCM track as well? I thought I read somewhere that the import TrueHD version currently being sold online also includes a PCM track which supposedly sounds better than the TrueHD track.

The PCM and the True HD track should sound identical unless they come from different source material, or were encoded at different rates, which seems unlikely.

Doug
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post #23 of 27
8/27/08 at 12:05pm

Re: Superman Returns re-release with new trueHD and PCM track!

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Originally Posted by Shaun
Does anyone know if this reissue will include a PCM track as well? I thought I read somewhere that the import TrueHD version currently being sold online also includes a PCM track which supposedly sounds better than the TrueHD track.

I already have this disc, as it was once a Pioneer Elite BDP-94HD exclusive, and it contains both a DD THD and a PCM track. The linked announcement indicates a PCM track will be present, and I have no reason to doubt that is the case as I'm sure they will simply be re-releasing the same formerly Pioneer exclusive disc.
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post #24 of 27
8/27/08 at 12:18pm

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Weren't a number of people disappointed with the HD DVD on this however because although it was True HD, it was a relatively low sample rate 48khz 16bit if I recall. I don't know if the new version is a 96/24 release or not. Of course it the original recordings are 48/16 it wouldn't make any difference anyway.

I didn't realize that about the HD-DVD, I did prefer it over the lossy DD track on my Blu-ray. I picked up the Blu-ray without checking it first and by then it was open and to late. If the HD-DVD is a Dolby True HD 48khz 16bit track and they re-release the Blu-ray with a Dolby True HD 96KHz /24 bit track. I may end up buying this title all over again, if so I will be selling off my DD copy or give it away if necessary.
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post #25 of 27
8/27/08 at 7:07pm

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Originally Posted by Dave Moritz
I didn't realize that about the HD-DVD, I did prefer it over the lossy DD track on my Blu-ray. I picked up the Blu-ray without checking it first and by then it was open and to late. If the HD-DVD is a Dolby True HD 48khz 16bit track and they re-release the Blu-ray with a Dolby True HD 96KHz /24 bit track. I may end up buying this title all over again, if so I will be selling off my DD copy or give it away if necessary.

I don't know this to be the case for sure, so check it out first. I just seemed to recall that being one of the gripes about Superman Returns on HD DVD.

Doug
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post #26 of 27
8/27/08 at 8:08pm

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Have any of WHV's TrueHD tracks been 24/96?

I pretty sure they all have been 16/48 (The Matrix, Batman Begins, etc,) and maybe 24/48 on occasion.
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post #27 of 27
8/31/08 at 7:12am

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I don't see a release for this at any of the regular places I buy from including Amazon and DVD Empire. Is this going to be one of those releases where you have to look for a upc number like Back To The Future?
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