SUPERNATURAL - Season 4 thread

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I wish Warners could have gotten the S3 Blu-Ray out on the same day as the DVD.

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Same here. But I'm holding out until November.

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Just a reminder, the premiere is on this Thursday at 9 PM.

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Wow! We're on a mission from God!

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I have said since season 1. If their are demons. Their has to be angels. I also have always wondered why (if their were angels) why haven't they gotten any help. But, you know it can't be what it seems....But, it would be cool if he is who he says he is.

On a side note. This show gets the hottest women.

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Todd,

I agree on all points, especially that this isn't what it seems. Pity.

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It was an interesting turn of events. I wonder if Sam can see his "true form". Even though it could really be an angel sending Dean on a mission from God, that type of situation still has loads of complications. Also, Dean might not exactly agree with objectives and methods.

Did anyone catch the name the angel was used and see if it has any mythological meanings?

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Note that the angel's name, Castiel, ends in -el. Look at the names of some of the archangels: Michael, Gabriel, Raphael and Uriel. Many people don't know this, but God is sometimes referred to as EL in ancient hebrew. It's a verb that means "is" or "I am". In point of fact God, or EL, is the only deity from that region who has a name that is a verb (EL, Elohim), not only nouns (He is also called Adonai, Yahweh and Jehovah), and refers to several revelations about being "The Beginning and The End", "The Alpha and The Omega", and "I Am The Great I AM". Paraphrasing some here. Also note that the creators of Superman, Siegel and Shuster, were two American jews who gave their alien hero, who became mankind's savior, the family name of El. So the end of his name, -el, does carry great meaning with it.

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It's funny but something in my gut was telling me that perhaps this guy who walked in and Dean open fired at might be a force for good rather than evil.

But as mentioned time will tell if he is who he says he is but I truly think he is. How Dean could not believe in angels baffles me a little, like was said above if there are demons and forces of darkness than there has to be angels and a force of light.

There's no such thing as a one sided coin...

And yes, the females of Supernatural are amazing, I liked the psychic chick who got her peepers fried. As for the new Ruby, the new girl is hot but she's no Katie Cassidy.

No mention yet of Dean's line last night?...

"What the hell is that?"

"An IPOD."

"I told you to take care of her not douch her up."

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Yeah it's really great to see the angels finally taking direct action in the war. And Castiel walked right through all the symbols, holy water didn't faze him and the demon killing knife had no effect. I can only assume he's the real deal. One could argue that all those things only affect demons who were once human, and that a true fallen angel wouldn't be affected by them. But I really want to believe that God's team is finally making their play. I just hope it's not because Sam is starting to use his psi powers and is about to become addicted and cross over to the "dark side". I really hope it's not about to be a Cain/Abel thing with brother ending up against brother. But I guess that would only serve to create more interest in the show. I know I'll still be watching!

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Pretty interesting opener. I think the angel stuff could be really good.

I liked that line alot too.

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I'm no authority but it seems like every time I've heard about TV ratings this season, it's always been about a show's drop in ratings or dissapointing premieres (be it a lack of interest, iTunes, DVRs or whatever) so I'm even more impressed that the show was up that much.

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Thinking about the premier again. I really hope this guy is an angel (& a good guy). I think the easy way out is that he is just a bad guy in disguise.

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Even if he is a good guy or not, it could be a "do the ends justify the means" situation which the Winchesters might oppose. Or they might not agree upon the goal, either. Just because he is an "angel" doesn't mean they will agree with him.

Neil

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You are obviously a far less cynical person than Dean Winchester.

And even if he does believe in them, he'd probably really rather not have to deal with one. I seem to recall that by and large, angels don't show up until it's time for the final, nothing-left-standing, Four-Horsemen, end-of-the-world final battle - and what sane person wants any part of that?

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Pretty creepy episode. Looks like we got a battle between Angels and Demons beginning.

Even all dirty...Meg looked good.

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I just think that Dean's lack of beliefe in the devine demonstrates a tremeandous lack of thought on Dean's part about the nature of evil, demons and darkness.

What does he think, that evil just exists out of thin air? It comes from a source and as revealed tonight he, Sam and Bobby will have to face that source...Satan.

It just goes to show that while Dean may be an expert at tracking and battling evil he has very little to no knowledge and has expended very little thought on where it comes from and that there is a force of good in the universe as well.

This season is shaping up to be profoundly interesting in exploring this issue, it's great that instead of some generic demon the boys will be fighting in the times-old battle between the represenatives of Heaven and Hell.

Awesome episode this week, tense, exciting and thoughtful.

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To the contrary. I think it's the almost inevitable end result of a path that starts with demons killing his mother and then spending the next fifteen years encountering monsters on a nearly weekly basis but not any opposing force other than the hunters who have been hurt by them. "Bad things happen to good people and life's not fair" is the conclusion you draw from that. As Dean pointed out during the episode, positing the existence of God, angels, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster results in his universe making a lot less sense than it did two weeks ago.

On the other hand, the man's thrown a bunch of holy water around in previous episodes, and that's got to come from something, right?

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This is really the essence of my point, Dean has used the trappings of God to combat evil all his life but it's clear now that he never bothered to understand why they're used and why they work.

This is, for Dean's purposes, the beginning of a spiritual awakening for him and I for one am fascinated and want to see where this is going.

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I thought this episode kicked major ass (just watched it last night). The opening was fricking awesome with the "hunters" eyes bugging out of their heads, seeing the ghosts of the angry dead collateral damage victims was great and set up the story even more for the Good vs. evil theme. I just wished the gore factor would have been upped a little bit....

I am loving this show even more than previous seasons if that is possible. I think that they will probably squeeze in some "monster of the week" stories along the way ala X-Files....

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A very cool episode. So mom was hot (I am going to hell...again). And she and her family were hunters. Very emotional episode. Especially, when Dean found out she didn't want her kids to be hunters.

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That was a great line.

It's always fun to see Micth Pileggi (Skinner from The X-Files) in a role.

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I'm with Dean, mom was smokin' hot!

Tremendous episode! Very emotional discussion between Dean and mom with Dean welling up with tears telling her to stay in bed that day in the future.

Loved the not-so-subtle nods to Back to the Future, too lol. When Dean was in the coffee shop and from off screen you hear "Hey, Winchester!" did anyone else expect the next line to be "I thought I told you never to come in here!"?

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Now that you mention it, it does seem like every network show that I watch uses "son of a bitch" alot. I guess they don't have many other choices though.